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ElDivino
09 Sep 2005, 08:42 AM
how's that working for Uruguay and Hungary?

Based on 15 years of results, the US and Mexico are pretty even, but no one seriously disputes Mexico's dominance before then. History's worth something, but if it's not helping Mexico actually beat the US now, I'm not sure how much weight you want to put on it.
i guess the basic fact of the matter is that MEXICO has a way better team on paper..and ur right history isnt gonna help them win against the u.s only skills....and the truth is that MEXICO still has more talent on their squad..they just have to get it together..sure the u.s is great they improved so much and they have good players, more than ever before...but i still see no reason why MEXICO feels so threatened by them. The only reason i feel they lose to the u.s...is the pressure that they have to put up with...they eventually cave in..the whole country is watching and waiting to judge..their nervousness gets the best of them..and they lose. Think about it..what happend in the u.s after they lost to MEXICO in the azteca ?..nothing..the press didnt care..nobody bashed on them..no one talked trash, and when MEXICO lost in columbus it was the freaking loss of the century..everyone talked trash...all of that pressure really brings MEXICO down,and it gives the u.s more confidence...

kpaulson
09 Sep 2005, 09:11 AM
I think Divino has to be joking and/or trolling, but he's done it pretty well.

Yes, MFL players are better on paper than role players from the Bundesliga and English premiership. I'm not sure how I've come to that conclusion, but there it is.

ElDivino
09 Sep 2005, 03:12 PM
I think Divino has to be joking and/or trolling, but he's done it pretty well.

Yes, MFL players are better on paper than role players from the Bundesliga and English premiership. I'm not sure how I've come to that conclusion, but there it is.
well..thank you for understanding...this is my own opinion of course..and even tho it might have sounded like it...i wasnt joking...just trying to put it in the best words possible...i really like this thread !!!

jcmartins
09 Sep 2005, 03:17 PM
Yes, a 50 year history is pointless. Teams have emerged and teams fade. Uruguay and Hungary WERE football powerhouses. No more. They're lesser teams then both the USA and Mexico.


I don't think for a second they're lesse teams than the us.. I'm Brazilian just so you don't think I'mm biased about uruguay (an't speak for hungary haven't watched them lately) But uruguay? no way man... forlan and Company they have a very good team, comparable with the big guns. Last year wa a different siory but now they have reorganized and their team is getting stronger every day, remember - Forlan is top european scorer currently, not an easy feat. I would love to see the US grow and I'm waiting for that day, but they have not grown enough to be considered better than Uruguay, in any way. The US could never beat the Uruguayans at home, and I'd say they would lose 8 out of ten playing here... But of course that's my opinion.

docliver
27 Sep 2005, 08:55 PM
Why are people comparing the U.S with Mexico , thats not the question that was asked is it ? It's about how far the U.S will go. Now it all depends on the draw doesn't it ? If they have a so so group then yes they will get to the 2nd round but if they don't then it will be a long flight home in the first 2 weeks . Personally i think they will make it to round 2 but get beaten after that, They just don't have the full team and i think they got lucky last W.C in there draw. Thats my 2 pennies , like it or not.

dude?
30 Sep 2005, 01:34 AM
winners i hope but realisticly i dont know we sure have alot more talent this year

Pablo Chicago
06 Oct 2005, 06:37 PM
It may be wishful thinking, but here's my prediction:

Runners up...and all the Germans say, "Mein Gott!"

prymetyme
06 Oct 2005, 07:15 PM
mein gott is right, dont get yourself carried away. Germany will win on its home turf. I dont think in the finals there will be that many brazilians in Berlin.

vilafria
06 Oct 2005, 10:55 PM
Quarter-finals.For sure. :cool:

simonb_nyc
07 Oct 2005, 08:24 PM
Quarter-finals.For sure. :cool:
With a lot of luck it's very much a possibility. To be honest anyone can win this World Cup. It's wide open. It's going to be very exciting!

vilafria
07 Oct 2005, 08:43 PM
The 2nd string line-up ,if they are victorious or have a good performance in the next WCQ match will give some indication of the USNT's depth of quality players.

docliver
07 Oct 2005, 10:10 PM
Winners or runners up No way i just don't see it personally. Yes they make strides against teams like Costa rica, Trinidad and yes Mexico but come on who have they really played . Maybe the next W.C but for now they should consider getting to the 2nd round and be happy with that. I see them being a threat in the future because the kids now playing footy in the U.S are pretty damm good and if they can nurture talent like that then they have a chance in the coming years. The problem now is that teams don't fear the U.S and that especially euorpeans they laugh at the U.S team . Im English and i really don't think much of them , maybe one or two names but thats it. Like i said the future looks bright but not now

vilafria
14 Oct 2005, 12:36 AM
I feel that the USA NT will go further than most Europeans expect ,regardless of what happened in France ,last time out in the WC in Europe. The team definetelly has depth in the squad, they just prooved it in their last game. :)

simonb_nyc
14 Oct 2005, 05:13 PM
Winners or runners up No way i just don't see it personally. Yes they make strides against teams like Costa rica, Trinidad and yes Mexico but come on who have they really played . Maybe the next W.C but for now they should consider getting to the 2nd round and be happy with that. I see them being a threat in the future because the kids now playing footy in the U.S are pretty damm good and if they can nurture talent like that then they have a chance in the coming years. The problem now is that teams don't fear the U.S and that especially euorpeans they laugh at the U.S team . Im English and i really don't think much of them , maybe one or two names but thats it. Like i said the future looks bright but not now

How often do you see the US team play? Probably only in a World Cup right? The US did pretty well in WC2002. Quarterfinalists (just like England) and had the better run of play against Germany for the most part, they were just victims of a handball which wasn't seen by the ref. So you have nothing do base your assessment on. Anyway, no teams are feared anymore apart from Brazil! That's why world football has got better over the years.

vilafria
12 Nov 2005, 11:36 PM
Tying Scotland is not a good omen for performance in Germany, I'm afraid.

Hachiko
13 Nov 2005, 01:00 AM
Should be a choice for Wins It All...

Anyway, I chose Semis because they will prove their place in Germany.

Pablo Chicago
13 Nov 2005, 09:29 AM
Tying Scotland is not a good omen for performance in Germany, I'm afraid.
That wasn't even our "B" team on the field in Scotland.

kylesoccer
13 Nov 2005, 10:41 AM
Tying Scotland is not a good omen for performance in Germany, I'm afraid.

i'm sure you posted the same thing when Italy tied Scotland as well. So this result means we will do the same as Italy in the World Cup. Of course it doesn't.

simonb_nyc
13 Nov 2005, 02:15 PM
Tying Scotland is not a good omen for performance in Germany, I'm afraid.

I wouldn't worry if I were the US coach. The A team is superb - witness the Mexico game in September. The Yanks have nothing to worry about. Semifinals for sure.

CariocaEWR
15 Nov 2005, 02:03 PM
I wouldn't worry if I were the US coach. The A team is superb - witness the Mexico game in September. The Yanks have nothing to worry about. Semifinals for sure.

Very good point. That Mexico game was very intense. They will stick to Arena's plans and finish, at least, in the top 5. And it gets better in the near future with so much young talent. I follow the MLS up close along with high school here in Jersey and I am very impressed with the kids I have seen the last 4 or 5 years. I'm a Brazilian born that grew up in Massachusetts and Rio de Janeiro and I have never seen so much quality and skills in the U.S. as right now.