Say it aint Soooooo Ashley !!!

[SnipersBreath]

Is this dude taking the piss or is this dude taking the piss ?

"Ashley Cole's taking his tapping up appeal all the way to the European courts"

Just what we need at the beginning of an already difficult season, why can't the man just let it go ? Its only one weeks wages on his new deal....... :(

[fox point fury]

It's not like he's going to be doing the actual arguing himself.

[fedwood]

I think its more to prove a point, like when people contest a $130 fine and pay $2500 in legal fees and win.
and wasn't he or his legal team arguing at some stage that players should be free to talk to other potential employers or something?

[arsenalgirl30016]

I wonder if Ashley has ever heard the saying let sleeping dogs lie? He wants to win the support of the fans back? And he continues to pursue this? Interesting line of "thinking".....

[Thierry_Is_God]

******** Ashley! Arsenal should have sold him and that chip on his shoulder. Clichy is ready to take over, and we could have used the transfer money to buy a big name in the midfield or at centerback.

[jwaldman11]

******** Ashley! Arsenal should have sold him and that chip on his shoulder. Clichy is ready to take over, and we could have used the transfer money to buy a big name in the midfield or at centerback.
Like we used the Vieira money? Arsenal doesn't do what Chelsea does and buy big names just to collect them. Even if we had gotten 30 million GBP, we couldn't have competed with Chelsea on most transfers. As Wenger has said in the past, he doesn't make moves just for the sake of making moves.

Also, FYI, both Cole and Mourinho have had their fines cut down to 75,000 GBP. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headlinenews?id=338815&cc=5901

[chengb02]

I think its wrong to jump on Ashley about this now as I doubt it will have any effect on his play and I can understand why he'd be angry enough to try taking this to a court. I think he has a legitimate argument and I think his fine was a bit on the high side...

[Teso Dos Bichos]

He's just another in a long line of jumped up pricks with an inflated ego. The rules are set, he chose to break them and he has been punished. Move on Ashley and grow a pair. Who the ******** does he think he is? Bosman mark 2? His idiotic legal rambling will only damage the game and is a petty middle finger to all of the footballing authorities. I honestly expected Chelsea to attempt something idiotic like this, not your lot.

/end rant

[elknco1]

75k GBP is still a lotta money.. thats like 2 weeks pay for him!

[michaec]

I think its more to prove a point, like when people contest a $130 fine and pay $2500 in legal fees and win.
and wasn't he or his legal team arguing at some stage that players should be free to talk to other potential employers or something?No it's not even remotely the same. He was caught, along with his agent, talking to Chelsea. Totally bang to rights. If anything they should have increased his fine for wasting their time with an appeal.

I said at the time we should have sold the ungrateful little cvnt and I stick by that. £15m-£20m in the bank and Clichy at left-back would suit me just fine.

[Rick B]

No it's not even remotely the same. He was caught, along with his agent, talking to Chelsea. Totally bang to rights. If anything they should have increased his fine for wasting their time with an appeal.

I said at the time we should have sold the ungrateful little cvnt and I stick by that. £15m-£20m in the bank and Clichy at left-back would suit me just fine.

Agree, agree and agree again.

[mad theory]

Agree, agree and agree again.

ditto.

but i really hope he stays, at the moment he's irreplaceable, like it or not.

[Rick B]

ditto.

but i really hope he stays, at the moment he's irreplaceable, like it or not.

I agree to a point, but then if we take into account Vieira's unsettling of the squd over his wanting to go, how do we know Ash's contact with Chelski isn't doing the same. I agree he is the best left back in the world at the moment. But with Clichy there and still improving, I am not sure that the need to keep players who have fallen out of love with Arsenal is still there. I know there are going to quite a few who this year will not sing Cole's name. In Austria a couple of friends had shirts being signed and asked Cole not to sign them.........

[Miles Brasher]

I too hope he stays. He's a great player, and an Arsenal fan, and he's not appealing against Arsenal. Having said that, he's being a complete twat at present, and if he hadn't have come thru the Arsenal ranks I'd say bin him too. Whether this is down to advice he's getting or whether he's doing off his own feelings is immaterial, he needs to give it up. The quotes about restriction of trade which seem to be the path they're following are just a joke given the benefits that he gets for being a footballer.

As an aside, if the rumours about Essien going on strike if he doesn't get his move to Chelsea are true make him a player I'd never want to sign...

[mad theory]

I agree to a point, but then if we take into account Vieira's unsettling of the squd over his wanting to go, how do we know Ash's contact with Chelski isn't doing the same. I agree he is the best left back in the world at the moment. But with Clichy there and still improving, I am not sure that the need to keep players who have fallen out of love with Arsenal is still there. I know there are going to quite a few who this year will not sing Cole's name. In Austria a couple of friends had shirts being signed and asked Cole not to sign them.........

yeah, but this is starting to really annoy me, i mean ashley is one of my favourite players at the club. so, i hope he just puts all this crap with chelsea behind him, at the moment it looks like wishful thinking but i'm just hoping....

[Rick B]

yeah, but this is starting to really annoy me, i mean ashley is one of my favourite players at the club. so, i hope he just puts all this crap with chelsea behind him, at the moment it looks like wishful thinking but i'm just hoping....

Before all this crap with Chelski i would of been clamouring for him to be Captain, as would have many fans. But when you do that, you break the bond between fan and player. I wonder what some Liverpool supporters think over Gerrard actually? It would be interesting to find out.........

If he does put it behind him and does come out and play his best - great. But then he has to shut up about this fine and pay the damm thing. He can't have it both ways. The rules are there for a reason, it's not like he didn't know he was breaking them. Whether he agree's with them or not doesn't matter. The rules are there, he broke them - pay the fine and then try and win back the supporters instead of dragging this into the season. Whether he means it or not it will have an effect on the squad as the media will constantly focus on it.

[jatm516]

The rules are there for a reason, it's not like he didn't know he was breaking them. Whether he agree's with them or not doesn't matter. The rules are there, he broke them - pay the fine

Exactly what I was going to say. If you disagree with a rule, it doesn't give you permission to violate it. There are better routes to take.

BTW When I log on and see thread titles like this is sorta freaks me out. LOL

[Its only Ray Parlour]

He's just another in a long line of jumped up pricks with an inflated ego. The rules are set, he chose to break them and he has been punished. Move on Ashley and grow a pair. Who the ******** does he think he is? Bosman mark 2? His idiotic legal rambling will only damage the game and is a petty middle finger to all of the footballing authorities. I honestly expected Chelsea to attempt something idiotic like this, not your lot.

/end rant

Err what? Must have missed Dein, Wenger and co lending Cole support over this...

[Cannon]

It's not like he's going to be doing the actual arguing himself.

Nothing to add to the Ash discussion other the repeat the obvious that nothing good will come of this appeal.

However, I'd like to add that your avatar is giving me epileptic seizures, fox. :D

[fox point fury]

He's just another in a long line of jumped up pricks with an inflated ego. The rules are set, he chose to break them and he has been punished. Move on Ashley and grow a pair. Who the ******** does he think he is? Bosman mark 2? His idiotic legal rambling will only damage the game and is a petty middle finger to all of the footballing authorities. I honestly expected Chelsea to attempt something idiotic like this, not your lot.

/end rant


What the ********? The idea behind the appeal is to show that those English rules are in violation of the controlling Euro laws and therefore are ********ing irrelevant. If you're so concerned with justice you'd recognize that and use you sh!t-talking "abilties" to slag the fa instead of an Arsenal player. But that would require the troll-mod to refrain from spewing sh!t on the Arsenal boards about one of our players, and that aint gonna happen.

It's funny how those of us who are actually pissed about this meeting are able to discuss our traitor civilly, but you just can't miss the opportunity to call one of our players an idiotic prick with no balls when you think we might find it acceptible.

And what exactly would be wrong with aspiring to be Bosman Mark 2? Why is it ok for the footballing authorities to stick their middle finger up at labor laws and not ok for workers to assert their rights? What's idiotic or rambling about his legal argument? Speaking of jumped-up pricks with inflated egos, what the ******** does a barely 20-y/o who has nothing better to do in life than post here 20 times a day know about any of this sh!t, anyways? It's not like this scenario is coming out of the blue; it's been whispered of since the inception of the EU and everyone's been waiting with baited breath to see who would be the test case. The fact that it's an Arsenal player is certainly inconvenient to Arsenal fans, but if you think Ash's case is absurd then you must have your head wedged up your a$$.

And yes, as an Arsenal fan I am still pissed at Ash for this meeeting (especially considering the timing) and would have no problems with the club selling him. However, arguing against a worker asserting or exploring their rights smacks of fascism, regardless of how well-paid the worker is or any emotional connection one might have to the worker's product.