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Mac_Howard

01 Aug 2005, 08:49 PM

Don't know how much faith to put into this report from the Guardian but here's the article:

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,1563,1540850,00.html

Essentially it says that Alex has an agreement with Ballack to join Utd at the end of next season.

It also suggests that Alex may surprise us with another significant signing yet.

Sorry if this should be in the new transfers thread but it seemed sufficiently significant to have a thread of its own. Motterman will doubtless move this into the appropriate thread if he deems it necessary :)

Invincible

01 Aug 2005, 08:52 PM

Hmm, if true, not bad I say. Should hold us down a little until Jones and Fletcher come along. Hope it's true, though I would rather see him here now.

nicephoras

01 Aug 2005, 08:53 PM

Ballack is obviously a fantastic player and would be an asset to any side, but he's going to be 30 by the time this happens (if its true) and he's not really a replacement for Keane since he likes to go forward so much.

astabooty

01 Aug 2005, 08:57 PM

I am guessing his contract runs out in a year. A player cannot sign a pre-contract until 6 months before his current one expires. So this means it would have to be a verbal agreement. I am not quite sure that is legal.

Dark Savante

01 Aug 2005, 09:54 PM

I hope this isn't true...we need him now...and a lot can happen in a season...suppose he gets injured..etc. The deal would get hijacked imo...and.... there is no way Bayern would let him run out his contract....!

If they have to sell they will and use that money to get Podolski. I hope they force our hand and make us buy this window tbh.

bigtoga

01 Aug 2005, 10:15 PM

SirManchester

01 Aug 2005, 11:19 PM

I hope I'm proven wrong but he's just seemed to have gotten lazy over the past few years. We don't need lazy in this squad - these guys run like mad. I'd like to see how Roy keane or Alan Smith react when Ballack loses the ball at the midway line and then doesn't even think about helping back (as he's prone to do lately)...

I'm sorry, but what Bayern and Germany games have you been watching? If anything he became much much better, if he seems slow to you, its just his type of play, he's not going to lose the ball or play worse. We all know he's a massive player, very physical and precise. He would fit in perfectly at the club. I have no idea what you mean by saying he wouldn't track back if he loses the ball (which i've never seen him do, in important games anyway) He's one of the hardest working players in the world and with that an inspiration to any team he joins. Just look at his past three teams and their performances with him.

triplelake

02 Aug 2005, 01:56 AM

Ballack is one of the top 3 CM in the world. He is a even more complete midfielder than Roy Keane in terms of skills.
The whole German national team has been built around him. In Euro 2004, he was all over the pitch. Germans are known for their mobility around their pitch and he was the most mobile member of the squad. I've seen him done this numerous times in Euro 2004 : picks up the ball from his center back, pass around to his teammates, runs upfields, collects the passe from his teammate around the penatly area, and then shoots. He was very impressive against the Czech Republic and hit the woodwork once before Baros scored. If not because of the ************ forwards, Germany would have done a lot of better in Euro 2004. You can basically say that Germany is a 1 man team. That's how good Ballack is.
If we indeed pickup Ballack, all we need is put someone like Fletcher or Keane alongside him to run around and help cover the space for him and then let him run the show.

Ronaldo07

02 Aug 2005, 05:33 AM

im not sure, it seems too much of a gamble.

Dark Savante

02 Aug 2005, 06:28 AM

im not sure, it seems too much of a gamble.
People are crazy if they think Bayern will let him leave for free.

comme

02 Aug 2005, 06:32 AM

Some people in the Bayern forum were suggesting that Ballack staying for one more season would be worth more to them in CL revenues than they could make from selling him at this stage.

Ronaldo07

02 Aug 2005, 07:02 AM

Bayern Munich have confirmed they have held talks with Manchester United, but not over Germany international midfielder Michael Ballack.

Link (http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=296122&cpid=8&CLID=&lid=3&title=Bayern+confirm+United+talks&channel=premiership)

bigtoga

02 Aug 2005, 07:27 AM

...I have no idea what you mean by saying he wouldn't track back if he loses the ball (which i've never seen him do, in important games anyway) He's one of the hardest working players in the world and with that an inspiration to any team he joins. Just look at his past three teams and their performances with him.Oh come off the dramatic response lol. "He's never lost the ball... he's one of the hardest working players in the world" - give me a break. The guy's a good player - no one questions that fact - and Germany is built around him by necessity (who else would they build around?) but that doesn't give you license to make up stuff about him to try to disprove my statements.

I've seen Ballack be more than casually lazy - and he's been roudly criticized for this type of play. To pretend that this is not true is just showing an ignorance of his play and an ignorance of his critics. Everyone knows he's a good player so settle down - I just would like to see Keano's response if Ballack comes over here and takes off a game like he's been criticized for doing with Bayern. Keane's mellowed in the past 3-4 years so maybe he would just shrug it off...

jammybastard

02 Aug 2005, 10:21 AM

one thing to consider..

the gaffer has a tendency to try to manipulate the press and football, by leaking stories whether the deal is done or not.
He's always got a plan, but sometimes it's not what people are being lead to believe.

Motterman

02 Aug 2005, 10:25 AM

Ballack is denying this...

http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/050802/3/cnul.html

MUNICH, Germany (http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/fo/germany/) (AFP) - Bayern Munich midfielder Michael Ballack (http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/fo/profiles/7514.html) has denied reports he has come to a gentleman's agreement to join Manchester United (http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/fo/manunited/) after the 2006 World Cup.

Ballack is understood to want to leave Bayern after one final season in the Bundesliga and The Guardian reports that the preliminary details of a free transfer have been provisionally agreed for him to sign a pre-contract agreement at Old Trafford next January.

But the player's agent, Michael Becker, said no deal had been struck.
"There's no pre-contract, no gentleman's agreement," he said.

"The only people we're talking to at the moment are Bayern."

StrikerCW

02 Aug 2005, 10:40 AM

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headlinenews?id=337982&cc=5901

Bayern's chairman Karl-Heinz Rummenigge said Ballack would be ill-advised to move to United.

'(They are) not the Manchester of before. If I were a player, I would laugh about it,' he told Sport-Bild magazine.

Son of a .... we'll show those SOBs if we get to them in the CL whos to be laughed at.

Rei de Boston

02 Aug 2005, 10:41 AM

I would expect Ballack to deny this as a gentelmen's agreement at this stage is not exactly on the up and up. If he is coming to United I would much rather he come this year. He is a great player but he doesn't always play his hardest. I am thinking he at Bayern is like Beckham was here. He has been with the club/ in the league a little too long and has lost some motivation. A move could really help him and doing it now would help us out as well.

blackadder

02 Aug 2005, 10:43 AM

Bayern's chairman Karl-Heinz Rummenigge said Ballack would be ill-advised to move to United.

'(They are) not the Manchester of before. If I were a player, I would laugh about it,' he told Sport-Bild magazine.

More proof of the famed German sense of humor.

johno

02 Aug 2005, 11:28 AM

that's hillarious... he's got a rather short memmory it seems...

I agree... waiting a year is not a good idea... he's needed now. No point in waiting... also the faster he comes the faster we can get Phil off the books.

Teso Dos Bichos

02 Aug 2005, 01:49 PM