View Full Version : NCAA's and Open Cup...
eric515
04 Nov 2002, 04:03 PM
Just a thought I had...wondering if it could be done. The Open Cup is supposed to be open to all club teams, amateur and pro. Is that what would keep them from including college teams in the tourney?? It seems to me that adding major college teams like UVa, Clemson, Indiana, etc. would be a good way to draw attention to the tournament. I am guessing there is some rule that prevents this from happening though.
SeattleFan
04 Nov 2002, 08:18 PM
In the summer, many college players are with PDL teams that do participate in the cup. Also I don't think NCAA teams are affiliated with USSF, which would probably put a damper on things.
Lithium858
06 Nov 2002, 12:03 AM
Are you excited?
uncbumblebee
14 Nov 2002, 03:38 PM
Bath university participates in FA Cup in England. What a great freakin story!!!
Imagine the possibilities!!!!
Imagine Stanford vs The LA Galaxy!
Imagine UNC-Chapel Hill vs DC United!
Imagine St. Johns vs Metrostars!
uncbumblebee
14 Nov 2002, 03:41 PM
The idea is crazy but probably will never come true but we can imagine can't we!
SMU vs Dallas Burn!
Indiana (College Soccer Country) vs Columbus Crew!
UCLA vs San Jose Earthquakes!
Maryland vs New England Revolution!
Virginia vs Chicago Fire!
The endless possibilities!!!!
Why not????
nyrmetros
04 Sep 2003, 11:39 PM
So why can't this happen?
Because the winner of the USFA Cup gets $100, 000. A NCAA team can not participate in a tournament where a pot of gold is at stake.... WANKERS!
ThreeApples
05 Sep 2003, 11:24 AM
1. NCAA teams are not registered with the USSF. They play by their own rules, rather than the FIFA Laws of the Game enforced by the USSF.
2. The NCAA allows teams to practice and play only during specific windows of time each year. Many Open Cup match dates fall outside of these windows.
Canadian_Supporter
05 Sep 2003, 11:35 AM
The CPSL (Ontario/Quebec) semi-pro league started an Open Cup this year (amateur and CPSL teams). The winner would get $10,000. I read that some amateur teams pulled out because they didn't want to hurt their players chances of going to the NCAA.
Paul Nasta
05 Sep 2003, 11:37 AM
And as someone else pointed out, what happens when , say, Boston College plays the Cape Cod Crusaders, when BC's star player also plays for the PDL Crusaders (I think this may have been the case for the Rapids' Casey Schmidt)?
It may sound enticing, but I suspect that most college teams couldn't compete with A-League or even PSL teams, much less MLS teams.
nyrmetros
05 Sep 2003, 11:40 AM
it would make some nice stories though..... and the USFA Cup field could use a few more entries....
Paul Nasta
05 Sep 2003, 11:41 AM
On the other hand, didn't BYU's club team play in the PDL this year, and, if so, wouldn't they have been eligible for the USOC? As a club team, is BYU soccer not under the auspices of the NCAA?
nyrmetros
05 Sep 2003, 11:47 AM
i might be mistaken, but I think different rules govern club teams as opposed to NCAA Divisional teams...
kuhnscoot
10 Sep 2003, 08:39 AM
Originally posted by Paul Nasta
On the other hand, didn't BYU's club team play in the PDL this year, and, if so, wouldn't they have been eligible for the USOC? As a club team, is BYU soccer not under the auspices of the NCAA?
The actual BYU soccer program got cut I believe, but it is still around as a club team, which the school likes because it's a lot cheaper then the actual program. So the reason they played in the PDL was because of the fact that they were not a part of NCAA in terms of soccer. I believe that is what happened, I'm not positive.
monster
10 Sep 2003, 10:41 AM
Originally posted by NYR Metros
So why can't this happen?
Because the winner of the USFA Cup gets $100, 000. A NCAA team can not participate in a tournament where a pot of gold is at stake.... WANKERS!
You do realize that bowl games and NCAA basketball tournament offer prize money, so to speak?
kuhnscoot
10 Sep 2003, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by monster
You do realize that bowl games and NCAA basketball tournament offer prize money, so to speak?
Yeah, but that money goes to the schools, the money for winning the USFA Cup goes to the players as a bonus I believe, so the college players would be getting "paid" to play, therefore losing their elegability unless they didn't keep the money.
monster
11 Sep 2003, 04:24 AM
Originally posted by kuhnscoot
Yeah, but that money goes to the schools, the money for winning the USFA Cup goes to the players as a bonus I believe, so the college players would be getting "paid" to play, therefore losing their elegability unless they didn't keep the money.
1. The money goes to the team to use as they see fit. The players get a cut, but each team decides how that is done.
2. If you think players in the NCAA aren't compensated for those events, you're incredibly naive. They may not get a check cut to them, but, believe me, they get compensated very well for succeeding in those competitions.
3. It's not the USFA Cup.