Next Cities In MLS?

[prymetyme]

yeah boston fked themself over with the big dig tunnel prodgect that totaly, failed and now they dont have enough money for anything else for a long time

[jec1]

i hear it could be toronto well see what happens

[keanoUSA]

i think a florida team should be introduced because of the latin community and poplation. miami because of its size

and maybe oralndo because it has ties to AJAX
http://www.ajaxamerica.com/

in 10 years there should be more rivalries besides chivas/galaxy

like Metrostars/new cosmos
fire/another chicago team
quakes/another nor cal team(sacramneto,san fran, oakland,)


If you look at other pro sports in the usa

there are 2 baseball teams in chicago/ny/norcal
there are 2 nba teams in norcal/ny
2 nfl teams in ny/norcal
those markets should have two teams

toronto seems good because its fanbase would be all of canada until another canadian team come along

maybe puerto rico beacuse the usl's islander seem to do well

[Pablo Chicago]

Seattle. It's cold, it's wet, it would be like watching an EPL match. :D

[vilafria]

I like Orlando. Get Disney involved. Get a new toon mascot and some cool name.

[Scarecrow]

Seattle. It's cold, it's wet, it would be like watching an EPL match. :D

I like the idea of Seattle with a team.

[vilafria]

What do you mean no more for SoCal? Have you checked the population of our cities? Your contradicting yourself. Now I don't know if it's a good ideal to put another MLS Team at this time in SoCal. But as far as big cities we have some more in So Cal. What about San Diego or Anaheim (O.C.) The Orange County and the San Diego County are large populated areas who probably not going to drive all the way to Carson to see the Galaxy or Chivas play. On second thought the O.C. is not too far away but they have their own identity. Hell I live in Burbank and Carson is more than 30 miles away. I wouldn't mind having a team representing the San Fernando Valley. There are millions of people that live in the SF Valley and were next to the San Gabriel Valley where Pasadena is. And further East is the San Bernadino County which has over a million people as well and it would take over a 100 miles to drive to Carson. I think what we need is another soccer built stadium here. Chivas or the Galaxy need to get out of Carson and get their own home.

Yeah. I used to live in San Diego during the NASL time and remember going to the Sockers games. I can imagine a San Diegan driving to LA to watch a match there on a regular basis.

[Palermo10]

Yeah. I used to live in San Diego during the NASL time and remember going to the Sockers games. I can imagine a San Diegan driving to LA to watch a match there on a regular basis.

I have been to two matches in the last month, but I ONLY go when I have at least 4 in the car, and I was able to get cheap tickets.

If there were a team in SD, I would have season tickets. It's just too much of a drive, too costly for gas, borderline not worth the close to 4 hours in a car round trip.

[WJMarx]

...in 10 years there should be more rivalries besides chivas/galaxy

like Metrostars/new cosmos
fire/another chicago team
quakes/another nor cal team(sacramneto,san fran, oakland,)

If you look at other pro sports in the usa

there are 2 baseball teams in chicago/ny/norcal
there are 2 nba teams in norcal/ny
2 nfl teams in ny/norcal
those markets should have two teams

...Toronto

...maybe puerto rico beacuse the usl's islander seem to do well

The NFL has 28 teams. The NBA has 30 teams. Each has a national footprint. MLS has 12 teams hoping to expand to 18/20 over a number of years. MLS must develop a national footprint to rise from the boutique sports status. Your plan places 8 teams in 4 cities and 2 teams out of the country leaving only 8/10 to "blanket" the USA. Your Toronto franchise apparently "blankets" Canada. This plan is utterly rediculous!!! Hopefully MLS is not!!!

[WJMarx]

...in 10 years there should be more rivalries besides chivas/galaxy

like Metrostars/new cosmos
fire/another chicago team
quakes/another nor cal team(sacramneto,san fran, oakland,)

If you look at other pro sports in the usa

there are 2 baseball teams in chicago/ny/norcal
there are 2 nba teams in norcal/ny
2 nfl teams in ny/norcal
those markets should have two teams

toronto seems good because its fanbase would be all of canada until another canadian team come along

maybe puerto rico beacuse the usl's islander seem to do well

The NFL has 28 teams. The NBA has 30 teams. Each has a national footprint. MLS has 12 teams hoping to expand to 18/20 over a number of years. MLS must develop a national footprint to rise from the boutique sports status. Your plan places 8 teams in 4 cities and 2 teams out of the country leaving only 8/10 to "blanket" the USA. Your Toronto franchise apparently "blankets" Canada. This plan is utterly rediculous!!! Hopefully MLS is not!!!

[Popol Vuh]

The NFL has 28 teams. The NBA has 30 teams. Each has a national footprint. MLS has 12 teams hoping to expand to 18/20 over a number of years. MLS must develop a national footprint to rise from the boutique sports status. Your plan places 8 teams in 4 cities and 2 teams out of the country leaving only 8/10 to "blanket" the USA. Your Toronto franchise apparently "blankets" Canada. This plan is utterly rediculous!!! Hopefully MLS is not!!!correction: the NFL has 32 teams.

[dannytoone]

Well...the earthquakes are leaving california, so maybe after a year or two a team could come and start up in norcal again, but in a city that will do more to cooperate with the team.

My experience is that Oakland is a city where anybody will support a sport in the city without even caring for the sport. Anybody can go to an Oakland Raiders game, and they will see a bunch of gangsters in black who know nothing about football but are willing to beat up anybody that cheers for the other team.

Then again, bad idea with oakland.

Actually I had a dream about owning an MLS franchise in San Francisco, and we bought one of the many historical but useless piers, building an open sided stadium in the style of the stadium in Braga Portugal...with one open end towards the bay, and the other open end toward the city. Not that I think anything will ever happen, just a dream I had a while ago.

I believe Forbes did a study of successful sports franchises, and they said that the best teams typically come from smaller to medium size cities. That means cities like Sacramento, Las Vegas, Charlotte, El Paso, Portland, Tucson, etc.

It makes sense...when big cities have sports teams, they typically attract people from that city. When smaller cities have sports teams, people are more willing to travel further(unless there is a bigger city close by) to see it. Their customer base lives in a wider radius, allowing access to a big fan base. Plus, people in smaller cities seek out things to do just as much as people in bigger cities, but in a smaller city, a sports team deals with less competition from entertainment.

Maybe that is why AEG is building a soccer specific stadium in Columbus, but they are moving the Earthquakes(in the 10th largest US city) to Texas.

[JayJay4Pres]

Well...the earthquakes are leaving california, so maybe after a year or two a team could come and start up in norcal again, but in a city that will do more to cooperate with the team.

My experience is that Oakland is a city where anybody will support a sport in the city without even caring for the sport. Anybody can go to an Oakland Raiders game, and they will see a bunch of gangsters in black who know nothing about football but are willing to beat up anybody that cheers for the other team.

Then again, bad idea with oakland.

Actually I had a dream about owning an MLS franchise in San Francisco, and we bought one of the many historical but useless piers, building an open sided stadium in the style of the stadium in Braga Portugal...with one open end towards the bay, and the other open end toward the city. Not that I think anything will ever happen, just a dream I had a while ago.

I believe Forbes did a study of successful sports franchises, and they said that the best teams typically come from smaller to medium size cities. That means cities like Sacramento, Las Vegas, Charlotte, El Paso, Portland, Tucson, etc.

It makes sense...when big cities have sports teams, they typically attract people from that city. When smaller cities have sports teams, people are more willing to travel further(unless there is a bigger city close by) to see it. Their customer base lives in a wider radius, allowing access to a big fan base. Plus, people in smaller cities seek out things to do just as much as people in bigger cities, but in a smaller city, a sports team deals with less competition from entertainment.

Maybe that is why AEG is building a soccer specific stadium in Columbus, but they are moving the Earthquakes(in the 10th largest US city) to Texas.

Correction, AEG already built that stadium, San Jose would be moving to either the 4th largest or 8th largest(Houston or San Antonio). Also C-Bus, is only ranked 5 spots back in projection(15th), I know it seems like a small city, but it's technically, larger then several MLS Cities, strictly speaking for that city-New York(1), Los Angeles(2), Chicago(3), Dallas(9), San Jose(10) are higher then Columbus.

And that's placing the teams in their "named" cities, as only Chicago and San Jose play in the actually city.

Below them(we'll move Foxboro into Boston for this one)
Boston(24)
Denver(25)
Washington, DC(27)
Kansas City, MO(39)
Salt Lake City(Unranked)

Of course, this is just city specific, the larger "area", obviously, Columbus is below DC and, probably, Boston/New England. But it is worth showing that, for the most part, MLS is looking at suburbs for their stadiums-Harrison, NJ for the Metros, Carson for Gals/Chivas, Frisco for Dallas, Commerce for Denver(I believe Chicago's is actually in city limits, though I may be wrong)...and wanting to move KC and San Jose.

[DixieDean]

HSG built Crew stadium, not ASG.
Also, Crew stadium is in the Columbus city limits several miles north of the city center.

[JayJay4Pres]

HSG built Crew stadium, not ASG.
Also, Crew stadium is in the Columbus city limits several miles north of the city center.

Sorry, see what happens when you try to call someone out, you get called out yourself :-(

Anyways, I should of mentioned that in my list of cities, but I thought it was implied...So of all the SSS's built or being built 2(?) Are with in the major city limits.

[MHaifa1913]

I personally think that Major League Soccer should hold off a bit on expanding. Everytime the league expands they weaken the quality of the average player. Proof of that is the garbage players of this season (Melamed, Ward etc.). I think that it is also wrong for MLS to assume that since a market has a large Hispanic population, that it could support a football club. Rochester would probably be a better choice because they have proved that they already have a solid fan base and the product should only get better when they get promoted to the US' top league.

San Diego would be an obvious no go. MLS claims that they learned their lesson from the All-Star game that San Diego failed with. Personally, I hope that Ajax Orlando achieves their goal of building an MLS worthy side in the next ten years. I hope that more clubs abroad will try this system but won't jump right into MLS like Chivas USA did.

[Palermo10]

I agree with you for the most part, but San Diego also has a large youth soccer community that runs into Orange County. So perhaps you only tapped a portion of the Hispanic community... and a portion of the youth community... and a small number of casuals... that would turn out alright. And would create a rivalry with LA.

But no, San Diego does not deserve a team ahead of Rochester.

[USFootiefan1980]

These are cities that in the long run should have MLS teams:

San Diego
Phoenix/AZ
Seattle( it'd be cool to see the Sounders in MLS!)
Toronto
Vancouver
Miami/FL
Houston/somewhere else in TX
Milwaukee
NYC (I think it'd would work to try to, if possible, to bring back the Cosmos. It's a strong brand with a long history, if done right would be very successful)

[vilafria]

Who owns the Cosmos?

[Gioca]

Hartford should definitely have a team, otherwise the league is worthless.