Cherundolo injury...

[lazerleft11]

cant believe there have been no updates on his injury yet. anyone????

[fidlerre]

http://www.yanks-abroad.com/content.php?mode=news&id=000896

He's being evaluated today.

[F96]

Well, I'm praying that it's not a torn ACL.

I would not only suck for him and his aspirations of making the WC but also for my beloved Hannover 96.
We wouldn't be able to compensate losing him for 6 month. We don't have a back-up for LB that would be good enough.

[Davids26]

Did it appear to be an ACL problem? It didn't seem that severe at least from watching on TV, but I've never had an ACL injury so I guess that I wouldn't know.

[Bigrose30]

http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/sportsNews/view.bg?articleid=103932

Second page...

"Cherundolo was moved more forward last night, starting at right midfield in Arena's 3-4-3 formation. But his night ended after just 22 minutes, when he suffered a sprained medial collateral knee ligament on a hard foul by Jamaica's Damion Stewart. Arena expects him to miss the rest of the tournament."

What a thuggish tackle...I hope FIFA does something...I don't expect Bruce to lash out at the officials in the media until the tournament is over, if even then.

[F96]

Well, the official 96 homepage is reporting that is suspected that it's a torn ACL (or MCL?; German word is Kreuzbandriß).
I wonder where they got that information from.

http://www.hannover96.de/CDA/news_-_detailansicht,577,0,newsid-4650,de.html

There's also a quote by coach Lienen:
"We were really shocked when we got the news. Should it be true that his ACL is torn indeed would that we really tragic for the guy.
Stevie is continuously great een though he hardly ever gets a rest."

[bigredfutbol]

Did it appear to be an ACL problem? It didn't seem that severe at least from watching on TV, but I've never had an ACL injury so I guess that I wouldn't know.

It looked pretty severe to us. My wife initially thought his leg might be broken.

[DaveBrett]

I don't think he tore his ACL. It's probably something less severe than that.

Athletes usually tear an ACL when their foot gets planted in the ground, and their knee gets twisted. That's not what happened here. His leg was in the air. It's probably a bruise or a sprain.

[Aquarius21]

Did it appear to be an ACL problem? It didn't seem that severe at least from watching on TV, but I've never had an ACL injury so I guess that I wouldn't know.

ACL injuries don't look severe when it happens; when Chris Armas tore it in '02, he just planted wrong. A lot of my friends who have torn their ACLs say they just landed wrong or stepped funny, so my hopes are up the 'dolo is OK. It was a hard tackle, and remember Beas didn't tear his ACL enough to need surgery in the tackle that should have killed him. I'm guessing his knee is sprained after yesterday and not torn (and here's to hoping a lot. we can't afford to lose him)

[Dr Jay]

I am fairly certain he has an MCL sprain at the least. The medial meniscus (cartilage) may have been torn as well from a lateral blow like this.

The ACL usually tears from hyperextension but could be affected by this type of injury.

MCL injuries rarely require surgery and usually mean a max of 4-6 weeks out. If its cartilage - usually a 'scope and usually no more than 6 weeks out.

ACL - you all know the drill.

If I am not mistaken, 'Dolo has already torn at least one ACL (maybe both ?).

[jsantarita]

First casey and now chrundolo. Their german clubs must be delighted to see their players go down in a tournament that nobody knows or cares about not even those taking part in it. (What's the name of the tournament again?).
I wonder how long they are going to allow this to go onbefore they start insisting that federations pay the players salaries for the time they are with the national team AND pay their salaries for the time they are injured . Only fair, no?

[purojogo]

the SOB who made that tackle ought to be punished... That's all i have to say....

Hope 'Dolo will be Ok... no more than a couple of months at worst....

[Heathens '87]

I wonder how long they are going to allow this to go onbefore they start insisting that federations pay the players salaries for the time they are with the national team AND pay their salaries for the time they are injured . Only fair, no?


Say goodbye to the concept of national teams and the World Cup. This has been an issue since the beginning of the organized game, and there will likely always be tension between club and country.

Insurance does tend to provide clubs with a level of protection, and they also benefit from national teams and international tournaments making "stars" for them to sign. Controlling what players do in their off time is an issue in every sport, and the concept of non-club competitions is now a big factor in the Olympics, and let's wait to hear to complaints about the baseball World Cup coming next year.

Fair or not, it's part of the game and part of the risk, and as all clubs share in that risk, an injury to Conor Casey and Steve Cherundolo is highly unlikely to shift the issue on such a global scale. It's part of the game, and clubs understand that reality.........

[Ghost]

If he misses six months, Hannover needs to press for compensation from the Jamaican federation. That's one way to end this crap.

[Bruce S]

If he misses six months, Hannover needs to press for compensation from the Jamaican federation. That's one way to end this crap.
not in the rules, not going to happen.Landon collided with a guy at the U-20s, and the guy broke his neck and eventually died.What should the compensation from the US Fed have been?

[Ghost]

not in the rules, not going to happen.Landon collided with a guy at the U-20s, and the guy broke his neck and eventually died.What should the compensation from the US Fed have been?

It should be whatever a court of law says it should be. FIFA rules are not the only ones that should apply.

Was the play intentional? I certainly hope not. I do think there ought to be a distinction between intentional fouls and non-intentional ones. Certainly the prior histories of players and teams should be part of the consideration.

[Heathens '87]

It should be whatever a court of law says it should be. FIFA rules are not the only ones that should apply.

Was the play intentional? I certainly hope not. I do think there ought to be a distinction between intentional fouls and non-intentional ones. Certainly the prior histories of players and teams should be part of the consideration.


Sports are very reluctant to bring the legal system into the game, preferring to use internal discipline. Only for the most egregious attacks, with clear intent to do serious harm, should a court of law become a factor.

Rough play that crosses the boundaries should be governed by the sport.......and that's what we saw from Jamaica. A cleats up tackle happens at every level of soccer, so unless we're willing to toss a 12-year old in jail for such an offense, we're unlikely to see it happen at the international level. For better or worse, it's part of the game, and the game needs to do it's part.

The pressure should be on CONCACAF to ensure this behavior hurts the Jamaican squad in a way that will give them pause when such a tackle is considered in the future........

[rksehga]

It should be whatever a court of law says it should be. FIFA rules are not the only ones that should apply.

Was the play intentional? I certainly hope not. I do think there ought to be a distinction between intentional fouls and non-intentional ones. Certainly the prior histories of players and teams should be part of the consideration.


Here's what a court of law will say compensation should be: NOTHING!

When you play a sport, you consent to the types of injuries that typically arise when playing that sport - that includes injuries caused by other players. While the Jamaican player committed a highly reckless tackle, it clearly was not outside the scope of typical conduct one can expect in a soccer game. If the guy had chased Dolo all over the field w/ boot in hand, and then savagely beaten said Dolo with said boot, then a court would award damages. Not here though - just fyi.

[Ghost]

Here's what a court of law will say compensation should be: NOTHING!

When you play a sport, you consent to the types of injuries that typically arise when playing that sport - that includes injuries caused by other players. While the Jamaican player committed a highly reckless tackle, it clearly was not outside the scope of typical conduct one can expect in a soccer game. If the guy had chased Dolo all over the field w/ boot in hand, and then savagely beaten said Dolo with said boot, then a court would award damages. Not here though - just fyi.

Thank you. I went to law school for awhile. I know they're reluctant, which is why nothing happened to Landon. Which was my point.

But that doesn't mean they should be. And it doesn't mean that we shouldn't push the issue in a court of law, if just as a nuisance to the other federation to make our point.

[ac1962]

ACL injuries don't look severe when it happens; when Chris Armas tore it in '02, he just planted wrong. A lot of my friends who have torn their ACLs say they just landed wrong or stepped funny, so my hopes are up the 'dolo is OK. It was a hard tackle, and remember Beas didn't tear his ACL enough to need surgery in the tackle that should have killed him. I'm guessing his knee is sprained after yesterday and not torn (and here's to hoping a lot. we can't afford to lose him)

When Blanco (MEX) was injured with a very similar tackle from a T&T player he was able to remain on the field for a good 15 more minutes, he even left walking, but the injury and subsequent surgery kept him off the field for about a year and pretty much ruined his career