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MoRado
10 Jul 2005, 09:12 PM
2 games, 2 losses

PAN 1
COL 0

COL 1
HON 2

One week ago i considered Colombia as one of the favorite teams to win the Cup, but now they are about to be eliminated, if they win by a lot of goals on their next game against T&T they might have a chance to qualify as one of the best 3 places.

what do you guys think? who will you blame?

Hartfield
10 Jul 2005, 09:19 PM
1. We are trying kids in new positions.
2. We are laughing at all those concacaf countries and we don't take them seriously and that is why they beat us.
3. Terrible coaching, Terrible players taken.
4. I guess we can say we are going thourgh change but this is just to embarassing.
5. In preparation games we scored 7 goals, here we scored 1 and it was penalty...

jared9999
10 Jul 2005, 09:24 PM
1. its a depleted squad.
2. honduras was better

Pibe#10
10 Jul 2005, 09:25 PM
What's wrong? well the players suck, yea they are not the regular starters, but still they suck, don't know why Reinaldo even brought them, not winning is alright, but losing two in a row is depressing. We have relied on a strong defense, but that's only by having Yepes, Cordoba, Bedoya and Perea in the WCQ team, right now it looks like we have no replacements for them in the National team, all these guys are slow and don't bring any security to the defense. Up top the experience from JPA and Rey is clearly missing, all these guys couldn't score on the worst of keepers.

This tournament was seen as a good learning experience, and they are clearly getting one.

Hartfield
10 Jul 2005, 09:30 PM
What's wrong? well the players suck, yea they are not the regular starters, but still they suck, don't know why Reinaldo even brought them, not winning is alright, but losing two in a row is depressing. We have relied on a strong defense, but that's only by having Yepes, Cordoba, Bedoya and Perea in the WCQ team, right now it looks like we have no replacements for them in the National team, all these guys are slow and don't bring any security to the defense. Up top the experience from JPA and Rey is clearly missing, all these guys couldn't score on the worst of keepers.

This tournament was seen as a good learning experience, and they are clearly getting one.
the defense was pathetic...

I see that Rueda is runned by empresarios... I don't understand why kids like Castrillon and de la cuesta are playing they are not even starters in the team. Mean while we have players like Perez being key players in Argentina.

Pibe#10
10 Jul 2005, 09:38 PM
De la Cuesta is a starter in Cadiz, and in my opinion him and Chiguiro were the only two who played like their regular selfs, Mendoza was outplayed on both goals, too slow both physically and mentally, needs way more experience. A few sessions with both Cordoba and Yepes should help him, in these kinds of games we see how much we need people like JPA and Rey up front, they are in a mental state way above any other forward in colombia, maybe Edixon Perea is the only one who is catching up to them fast.

Hartfield
10 Jul 2005, 09:39 PM
De la Cuesta is a starter in Cadiz, and in my opinion him and Chiguiro were the only two who played like their regular selfs, Mendoza was outplayed on both goals, too slow both physically and mentally, needs way more experience. A few sessions with both Cordoba and Yepes should help him, in these kinds of games we see how much we need people like JPA and Rey up front, they are in a mental state way above any other forward in colombia, maybe Edixon Perea is the only one who is catching up to them fast.
naaa Del a cuesta hasnt played this whole year in Cadiz.

Pibe#10
10 Jul 2005, 09:42 PM
being a starter doesn't mean you play the entire year, he has played several games, and took the central defender place from Paz, the regular starter, as well as scoring 2 goals last season.

Hartfield
10 Jul 2005, 09:57 PM
being a starter doesn't mean you play the entire year, he has played several games, and took the central defender place from Paz, the regular starter, as well as scoring 2 goals last season.
entre a la ppagina de Caracol y busque en archivos escuche la ppolemica hay Mejia y los demas dice que no juega y que no lo deberian haber llamado.

SpencerNY
10 Jul 2005, 10:08 PM
2. We are laughing at all those concacaf countries and we don't take them seriously and that is why they beat us.


I don't get why you're laughing at all of "those concacaf countries." You seem to think Colombia is some sort of powerhouse when you guys struggle in your own region and have trouble beating the likes of Venezuela and Bolivia. Colombia will be lucky if they qualify for the World Cup even with their best best players. Before you laugh at "those concacaf countries" you should realize that the US, Costa Rica and Mexico have not brought anywhere near their top sides yet they haven't stank it up like Colombia has.

Pibe#10
10 Jul 2005, 10:09 PM
y ahora me va a decir que por el perdimos? el equipo gana y pierde junto, todos perdieron los 2 partidos.....y se imagina donde si jugara más? el man sería un monstruo, ahi el que se vió muy mal fue Mendoza y Castrillon....esos dos no tienen nada.

Hartfield
10 Jul 2005, 10:15 PM
I don't get why you're laughing at all of "those concacaf countries." You seem to think Colombia is some sort of powerhouse when you guys struggle in your own region and have trouble beating the likes of Venezuela and Bolivia. Colombia will be lucky if they qualify for the World Cup even with their best best players. Before you laugh at "those concacaf countries" you should realize that the US, Costa Rica and Mexico have not brought anywhere near their top sides yet they haven't stank it up like Colombia has.

I'm not laughing...we were laughing but now we're not..jesus man..pay attention before you're giving gossip.

Hartfield
10 Jul 2005, 10:19 PM
y ahora me va a decir que por el perdimos? el equipo gana y pierde junto, todos perdieron los 2 partidos.....y se imagina donde si jugara más? el man sería un monstruo, ahi el que se vió muy mal fue Mendoza y Castrillon....esos dos no tienen nada.
yo no digo que perdimos por ellos pero no se puede decir que el juega muy bien..
Perdimos por que el equipo se quedo...no nos pongamos a joder... 45 minutos regulares e igualito que contra los rebeldes nos quedamos...ud y yo sabemos que Moreno es un paquete yo lo sabia asi hubiera ttenido 2 partidos buenos. Pero respondame esto Moreno no jugara contra Uruguay...entonces a quien ponemos por que el esquema de Rueda en la seleccion se requiere de un buen engache

JoseP
10 Jul 2005, 10:22 PM
I don't get why you're laughing at all of "those concacaf countries." You seem to think Colombia is some sort of powerhouse when you guys struggle in your own region and have trouble beating the likes of Venezuela and Bolivia. Colombia will be lucky if they qualify for the World Cup even with their best best players. Before you laugh at "those concacaf countries" you should realize that the US, Costa Rica and Mexico have not brought anywhere near their top sides yet they haven't stank it up like Colombia has.

I think he is realizing it was a mistake to be not taking CONCACAF teams seriously.

Hartfield
10 Jul 2005, 10:28 PM
y ahora me va a decir que por el perdimos? el equipo gana y pierde junto, todos perdieron los 2 partidos.....y se imagina donde si jugara más? el man sería un monstruo, ahi el que se vió muy mal fue Mendoza y Castrillon....esos dos no tienen nada.

bueno pero los dos goles de hoy fueron errores de los dos.

MoRado
10 Jul 2005, 10:35 PM
first you said....

2. We are laughing at all those concacaf countries and we don't take them seriously and that is why they beat us.

and then you said....

I'm not laughing...we were laughing but now we're not..jesus man..pay attention before you're giving gossip.

can you explain yourself? so are you laughing now? I don't think so....
I think he wasn't gossiping, i think he was correct.

PUMA Auriazul
10 Jul 2005, 10:35 PM
the first couple of days before the tourament started i was a bit affraid of colombia, I thought they would even win the cup. Now the onlyt hing that I can say is that its the coach's fault, thats my opinion. (HARTFIELD YOU SPEAK SPANISH)!!!!!!!!!!!

Hartfield
10 Jul 2005, 10:39 PM
first you said....

and then you said....

can you explain yourself? so are you laughing now? I don't think so....
I think he wasn't gossiping, i think he was correct.
Maybe i didnt write it right. We laughed a those Concacaf countries and didnt take them seriously and that is why they beat us.

MoRado
10 Jul 2005, 10:43 PM
Maybe i didnt write it right. We laughed a those Concacaf countries and didnt take them seriously and that is why they beat us.
oh i see, well, that sounds better

Hartfield
10 Jul 2005, 10:52 PM
i really think that what really counts is that the Coach took some really really bad players...well not bad but who are not playing... I can give you a list of players that should of gone but didn't and counter it by players that shouldn't be there.