The Olympique Marseille Transfer Thread

[Allez Lyonnais]

Bayern has heaps more money than any of the French teams. Bayern is up there with the Real,Barca, Man utd, Liverpool, Milan etc etc on the rich list. The only difference is they don't spend their profit as much as the others.
Your response is quite irrelevant nor does it answer my question.

[balla]

Your response is quite irrelevant nor does it answer my question.You say he has taken a salary cut???? Why would he go to Bayern for less money?

[Memento]

Arsenal and French players - no connection at all.

They actually only have 12 french speaking players and a french manager right now, and some unimpressive french nobodies like Pires and Vieira played for Arsenal London.

Surely not enough to impress a French player.

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I meant real connection. In the case of Viera,sure he had a connection with fans. But Pires not quite IMO.

Lizarazu with Bayern played some of the best years of his career.IMO. People loved Liza and Liza loved Bayern fans. He was a key player for Bayern to win the CL 2001.

The same can now be said right now of Sagnol.
Sagnol is one of the leaders of the club. And I suppose Ribery has a really good relationship with him.

Arsene Wenger might be french.
But I think many players would like better to play for Ottmar Hitzfield, one of the most winning coaches in recent years, instead of just playing for a coach because he's a countrymate.

[SportBoy333]

Giuly is 31 by the way. Not a great replacement for Ribery if you ask me because at 31 hes towards the end. Yeah its clear he went for the money.

Diouf said that with the Ribery sale they can afford to sign Cisse now. Thats a telling statement because it says they arent really trying to become a big European club if they have no intention of trying to keep their 2 best players. It looks like even if Ribery stayed then Cisse wouldnt be coming back and thats not how you build a large team by selling your best player in order to keep another. Thats lacking ambition and willing to spend to get to the top and thats how the big clubs do it. That being said, since it appears that they werent gonna keep both Ribery and Cisse, I can make a case that Cisse is the one that should be kept because a good goal scorer is very hard to find and Cisse can easily score 20+ goals in Ligue 1 for a full season. If Ribery was going to further flourish at OM and if they were going to mount a challenege to Lyon, then Ribery would have to be surrounded by better quality players than he has now and since OM clearly had no intentions of doing that it is better to sell him. If you werent gonna surround Ribery with more talent than now then get rid of him otherwise it would be a waste and pointless. Nasri is the only quality mid he plays with. I'm sorry but Cana is not a very high level.

[SportBoy333]

Bayern has heaps more money than any of the French teams. Bayern is up there with the Real,Barca, Man utd, Liverpool, Milan etc etc on the rich list. The only difference is they don't spend their profit as much as the others.


I agree with you but we want to know WHY there are no French teams at that level when I can name 3 that clearly could be. OM 60,000 seat stadium, largest club in France, 3rd largest city. WHY are they not on Bayren,Real,Barca,Man Utd. Liverpool,Milans etc. stature and level when they easily could be ? I blame it on ownership, high employment taxes and the dcng or dncg or whatever the hell its called. Dreyfuss is a horrible owner and only cares about making a product and wont go into his back pocket to put a dime into the club.

[blackjack]

Cana is not a high level?

He's one of the best D-mids in Europe for me. I follow Chelsea, who have Makalele, Mikel, and sometimes Essien to play in that position, and I would not be at all uncomfortable were Cana to step into the side in place of any one of them.

[SportBoy333]

If Cana was really that great then all the big European clubs would be after him.

[blackjack]

Arsenal and both clubs from Milan have been sniffing around, actually. I'll go find a link.

EDIT:
http://europe.football.fr/2007/03/31/494-cana-vers-arsenal

Couldn't find any reliable ones for the Milan clubs. Just rumors there apparently.

[guignol]

Dreyfuss is a horrible owner...claro hombré.

...and wont go into his back pocket to put a dime into the club.maybe not any more dimes, but the stack of 'em he's already put into the club would reach to the moon.

[SportBoy333]

Well based on what I have read I still believe they had no intentions of keeping both Ribery and Cisse. It was either one or the other if you ask me and that is sad. Aulas fought very hard to keep Essien but OM didnt try nearly that hard to keep Ribery Those waiting for this club to return to where they were under the Taipe years you can forget it because its not happeneing. I am a Monaco fan but I want Marseille to be good so we can have a competitive Ligue 1.

[Gotham PSG]

personally I understand the sale of Ribery

let's be honest, he has always been overrated, despite having a rather low IQ and a bad attitude. I remember him threatening to beat up a fan after losing the CdF. What kind of man does that?
He's been in what, 4 clubs in 3 years?
I think the management knows now is the best time to sell, because 25 millions is the best anyone will ever give for him, and this allows them to keep Cisse' and get some more experienced and reliable players to help the CL run next season

Of course, what sucks about the transfer is that the Ligue is losing one more of its "stars" :(

[4x4s]

personally I understand the sale of Ribery

let's be honest, he has always been overrated, despite having a rather low IQ and a bad attitude. I remember him threatening to beat up a fan after losing the CdF. What kind of man does that?
He's been in what, 4 clubs in 3 years?
I think the management knows now is the best time to sell, because 25 millions is the best anyone will ever give for him, and this allows them to keep Cisse' and get some more experienced and reliable players to help the CL run next season

According to Reuters, Bayern is paying 26 million euro now, and additional 4 million if they reach the Champions League next season.Bayern and Marseille have agreed to not reveal any details according to BM's website.

If you think about Marseille getting him for 'free', making 30 million of him is not really a bad idea.For that amount, it's better to sell now than later.

[SuperSebGrimaldi]

If you think about Marseille getting him for 'free', making 30 million of him is not really a bad idea.For that amount, it's better to sell now than later.

Exactly what I mentioned earlier in the thread. The only problem, of course, as he displayed yesterday, is that it's not an easy task at all to replace him.

Arsene Wenger might be french.
But I think many players would like better to play for Ottmar Hitzfield, one of the most winning coaches in recent years, instead of just playing for a coach because he's a countrymate.

No offense, though I can't agree. It's true that Hitzfeld has won more in Europe than Wenger. However, there have been countless articles, quotes and mentions from players at how they would like to develop under Wenger. Cesc Fàbregas has said lately that he thinks of Wenger as the best coach in the world and that he believes Arsenal can win anything in years ahead. When it comes to French players, it's even more this way. Armand Traoré, Clichy, Flamini, Diaby have all expressed how Wenger is the reason they went to Arsenal.

Oh, and like my fellow Monaco fan on this thread, I would like to see a strong OM side if it's good for the competitiveness of L1 and for France as a whole.

[Memento]

Exactly what I mentioned earlier in the thread. The only problem, of course, as he displayed yesterday, is that it's not an easy task at all to replace him.



No offense, though I can't agree. It's true that Hitzfeld has won more in Europe than Wenger. However, there have been countless articles, quotes and mentions from players at how they would like to develop under Wenger. Cesc Fàbregas has said lately that he thinks of Wenger as the best coach in the world and that he believes Arsenal can win anything in years ahead. When it comes to French players, it's even more this way. Armand Traoré, Clichy, Flamini, Diaby have all expressed how Wenger is the reason they went to Arsenal.

Oh, and like my fellow Monaco fan on this thread, I would like to see a strong OM side if it's good for the competitiveness of L1 and for France as a whole.

Ok so if Wenger is kicked out of Arsenal and goes to the Portuguesa League, will all those players follow him.

What is important for coaches are results, and if Wenger doesn't deliver ,Arsenalwill replace him.

The only great advantage I see Wenger have over Hitzfeld is that He is French. No more.

tHOSE fABREGAS comments (i DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE TRUE OR NOT) are mainly due because Wenger was the only guy who believed he could suceed in England. Fabregas wasn't truly appreciated in Spain.

Oh, and I would also like to wish the best to OM. As much as I like Lyon, the fact that they are winning the league always is making it less exciting to watch. I hope OM can use the Ribery money to get 1 or 2 quality players that will help you compete for the title.

[Memento]

Won't happen. Not gonna happen. OM have Champions League football next year and Munich dont. Teams in Spain, Italy, and England can give OM more money for him than Munich can. Very few good French nowadays make a direct move to the Bundesliga. Its not a big enough step up. Bayren seem to have a big list of player of players that they want but they wont get everyone they dream of I never actually heard Ribery say he wants to play in Germany because I bet he doesn't. A Frenchman isnt gonna leave the biggest French club for the biggest German club. That's just stupid.

Never say Never Again!! There is always a way to lure a good player to a club, it all depends on the capacity of the managementof the club on how to convince the player and other circunstances like money, quality of the club, success opportunities,living commodities, and much many more. It all is a matter of the appropiate how and when.

I agree with you on the "it'll never happen" part but why would it be a stupid move? If he signs a five year contract, he'll play in the UEFA Cup one year (with a good chance of winning it) and then right back to the CL. And Bayern would certainly meet the money aspect as well, its not like they lack it or have financial problems.

Hey mate, you should have more confidence in the work of Uli and the management,he he ;) :D Never say Never again!

[Epirotian]

If Cana was really that great then all the big European clubs would be after him.


Cana is as good as it gets my friend. Hes 23 YO at 17 he had a tryout with Arsenal but due to visa difficulties he couldnt go and went on to try out for PSG. Not to mention Arsenal Milan and other big teams as you say have expressed interest in him. Milan sees him as the best replacement for Gattusso (Watched it on TV) He remained loyal to Marseille he loves that club and he extended his contract three more years. Cana is a defensive Midfielder and if you really rely on him to score for you then Marseille is in deep shit. Besides can you tell me who Marseille has in the midfield that can help Cana with the defensive load there. Hes a one man wrecking crew. Not to mention his leadership on the team.Hes not the flashiest of the Players but he does anything and everything for his club to win.

[4x4s]

Ok so if Wenger is kicked out of Arsenal and goes to the Portuguesa League, will all those players follow him.

What is important for coaches are results, and if Wenger doesn't deliver ,Arsenalwill replace him.

The only great advantage I see Wenger have over Hitzfeld is that He is French. No more.

tHOSE fABREGAS comments (i DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE TRUE OR NOT) are mainly due because Wenger was the only guy who believed he could suceed in England. Fabregas wasn't truly appreciated in Spain.

You don't know Arsenal or Cesc. ;)

Arsenal's plan was built by Wenger.His vision runs the club.He's not a 'coach'.He has even been involved in the design of the Emirates Stadium.The only way Wenger will not be in London is if he quits.Without Wenger's work, with the same budget the Club would fall down to mediocrity with the likes of West Ham and Newcastle.

Wenger is the only reason Fabregas is still there, and most of his players consider him the most important figure in their development as a player.

I'm by no means an Arsenal fan, but to put Wenger on the level of 'he's not winning things' or not, is just unfair, because Wenger runs the club with a minimal budget, is is still quite successful with it, when was the last time anybody reached the Champions League final with a squad full of kids?Thought so.

Anyway, this is way off topic.

Ribery felt like leaving, nobody else made a genuine offer, so Ribery went to Munich.No idea why he was suddenly in such a hurry to leave, but that doesn't change anything anyway.

[jpick]

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun11c.html

well, this was mentioned on the milan transfer board a few days ago, and here it was corroborated, and to me it makes sense, especially if we bring in a guy like edmilson from barcelona who can play in central defense also.
as for marseille, is it looking like they will acquire the rights to cisse, i have only started following marseille really some this past year, which was my first really following the french football league, so i am sort of a marseille "newbie" still, but i hope they keep nasri and cisse now that ribery has gone. i really think that they could challenge lyon next season, or at least make it close depending on who lyon lose and who they acquire.

[Douai]

I still am shocked that Ribéry is gone.He could have atleast stayed for the UEFA CL.

[cheeting]

I still am shocked that Ribéry is gone.He could have atleast stayed for the UEFA CL.

Ribery is a d!ckhe@d. WHY WHY WHY would you go to S#it house Bayern Munich when you can play Champions League footy at I'OM, Real Madrid, Arsenal.

Don't understand. And the only reason he was at Marseille last season was because he kept saying over and over again he wanted to play CL football with I'OM. What does he do he leaves for $hit A$$ bayern to play in uefa cup.

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