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frasermc
04 Jun 2007, 07:01 PM
it was also mentioned on france football a few days ago which is a pretty reliable source.

SuperSebGrimaldi
04 Jun 2007, 11:04 PM
Well, as a person who isn't a fan of Bayern, I'll try to look at the bright side of this. The good thing about Ribéry transferring there is that he can improve his rapport with Willi on the right side of Bayern, which should help Les Bleus at Euro 2008. Also, OM are making quite a profit on this deal, since they didn't have to dish out anything to get him. 16 million pounds may not buy what it once did, but one can certainly use it in a constructive manner.

Oh, as a side note, I think getting Jacques Faty was a very good decision, since after all, he's been compared to Desailly, and though that may be a stretch, there are some interesting similarities. They're almost identical in terms of size, they both can play as a defensive midfielder, and they both arrived in Marseille at approximately the same moment in their careers, after having quit the club where they developed originally.

Hopefully Faty can play well enough to get called up to Les Bleus, and then we could have the "new Blanc/new Desailly" in central defense with Mexès/Faty.

Of course, a certain Lyon defender could have something to say about that.

lefutur
05 Jun 2007, 12:19 AM
IF and ONLY if Giuly comes to OM will this be a good deal for Marseille. To be selling off their best player when they finally qualify for the CL reeks of a lack of ambition. As for Ribery, he said he would stay if OM played in the Champions League but now he leaves....for Bayern. Come on, if you're gonna screw over your teammates, at least make it Arsenal....so that you could play with Henry and Diarra. Eh, at least there's Sagnol at Bayern.

But yeah, I thought he would stay for the love of France and a desire to see a french club do well in Europe. Now we see he has a love for money.

Allez Lyonnais
05 Jun 2007, 12:34 AM
IF and ONLY if Giuly comes to OM will this be a good deal for Marseille. To be selling off their best player when they finally qualify for the CL reeks of a lack of ambition. As for Ribery, he said he would stay if OM played in the Champions League but now he leaves....for Bayern. Come on, if you're gonna screw over your teammates, at least make it Arsenal....so that you could play with Henry and Diarra. Eh, at least there's Sagnol at Bayern.

But yeah, I thought he would stay for the love of France and a desire to see a french club do well in Europe. Now we see he has a love for money.
You know, he's gonna have to cut that attitude at some point during his career. He isn't settling anywhere if he keeps up with it.

Tsigalko
05 Jun 2007, 02:56 AM
The point is that he said he would stay if we qualified for the CL. Now not only is he leaving, but it's for a team that won't even be playing in the CL this season.

The point that you'll be in the CL again season after next is not a good one. If that were an issue, he could stay with us, and leave next season if we don't qualify again.

Ribery is selling out, and the management is showing once again that they don't really have much interest in restoring the glory days at the Vel.

Ribery talks alot and changes his mind constantly, or atleast his agent does. With all his back-and-forthenss when it comes to transfer and now getting 25M I think with some smart transfers the squad can get stronger, but I don't have to much trust in the managment when it comes to smart transfers but let's hope for the best.

guignol
05 Jun 2007, 03:16 AM
Agreed. How are we to mount a real challenge to Lyon if our best players are sold?you mean nasri, cana and rodriguez are leaving? :eek:

because it's these that you have to build the team around. guys who love the shirt and can string not only passes but words together.

getting big money for ribéry is a good deal for the future, even for next year. just how much of that moolah is due to what ribéry did a year ago (in germany coincidentally)? and just how much of that magic has he produced since?

Ribery is selling out, and the management is showing once again that they don't really have much interest in restoring the glory days at the Vel.sure it's hard, but OL fans learned long before essien and diarra (we were saying this kind of thing when JMA sold giuly!) that sometimes you just have to let go. with 30M€ or a near equivalent (and for the same salary envelope) OM will get 3 players who will do you a lot more good than blanck franck.

4x4s
05 Jun 2007, 07:49 AM
just how much of that moolah is due to what ribéry did a year ago (in germany coincidentally)? and just how much of that magic has he produced since?


You have a point there.

Just like Manchester United paid for what Hargreaves did with England in the World Cup, not for what he's done in Munich all those years.He was basically considered a joke in england until the world cup.

guignol
05 Jun 2007, 08:58 AM
You have a point there.

Just like Manchester United paid for what Hargreaves did with England in the World Cup, not for what he's done in Munich all those years.He was basically considered a joke in england until the world cup.might he have been a joke last year too, but the world's sides were so sore from laughing at the rest of ingerland that we didn't notice?

SportBoy333
05 Jun 2007, 10:06 AM
The bottom line is that Dreyfuss isnt willing to spend the money it takes to reach the top.

frasermc
05 Jun 2007, 10:19 AM
another indication that giuly being a marseille player is a distinct possibility..

http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/07/06/05/manual_150924.html&TEAMHD=soccer

Inara
05 Jun 2007, 10:20 AM
It's too bad that Jack Kachkar wasn't able to buy the club. I think he really would have tried to improve Marseille.

guignol
05 Jun 2007, 10:40 AM
inara? you OK girl???? anybody know CPR???? i think we're losing her!!!!

Inara
05 Jun 2007, 10:50 AM
inara? you OK girl???? anybody know CPR???? i think we're losing her!!!!

:o

My brain might have stopped working when I posted that. But in all honesty, Marseille need something to wake them up from their malaise. It's depressing when a club of so much potential and history just waste it (like Newcastle, but let's not go there). I wasn't surprised to see Lyon win the title this year, but I expected Marseille to be closer point-wise. Dreyfus either needs to improve the club or try harder to sell it to someone who cares.

I would love to see the return of French superpowers (in plural!).

kobashi
05 Jun 2007, 10:55 AM
Marseille need to get Nasri tied down to a 4 year deal as next season this is gonna happen all over again. Guily would be a great signing. If Ribery cannot commit to the club then it is best he is sold. Like Papa Diouf said a few weeks back. "It was the team that got us in the CL, not just Ribery"

Highbury
05 Jun 2007, 04:57 PM
I would love to see the return of French superpowers (in plural!).

Agreed. I enjoyed the days of there being 5 Big Leagues in Europe and not 3 with Germany and France close behind. I think if you look at the skill of the players, these 5 are the Big Five, but the 3 former have so much money.

Allez Lyonnais
05 Jun 2007, 05:58 PM
Dreyfus did care. If he didn't, he wouldn't have gotten so heavily indebted (€200m).

The fault lies in management.

Memento
05 Jun 2007, 07:23 PM
IF and ONLY if Giuly comes to OM will this be a good deal for Marseille. To be selling off their best player when they finally qualify for the CL reeks of a lack of ambition. As for Ribery, he said he would stay if OM played in the Champions League but now he leaves....for Bayern. Come on, if you're gonna screw over your teammates, at least make it Arsenal....so that you could play with Henry and Diarra. Eh, at least there's Sagnol at Bayern.

But yeah, I thought he would stay for the love of France and a desire to see a french club do well in Europe. Now we see he has a love for money.


The thing is the close connection that Bayern has with two french players: Sagnol and a guy that won the CL with Bayern, Bixente Lizarazu.

There isn't that close connection between Arsenal and Henry. He might move to Milan during the summer. And Diarra has just arrived and hasn't done much at the club.

What I see a lot is thatOM fans are judging a player that decided to stay with the team (that wasnot going to play in the CL and that was not ready to compete with Lyon quite yet) after having a tremendous WC. I suppose Ribery had offers from another clubs after the WC.

4x4s
05 Jun 2007, 10:47 PM
The thing is the close connection that Bayern has with two french players: Sagnol and a guy that won the CL with Bayern, Bixente Lizarazu.

There isn't that close connection between Arsenal and Henry.


Arsenal and French players - no connection at all.

They actually only have 12 french speaking players and a french manager right now, and some unimpressive french nobodies like Pires and Vieira played for Arsenal London.

Surely not enough to impress a French player.

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Allez Lyonnais
06 Jun 2007, 05:32 AM
If my memory serves me correctly, Ribery was ranked sixth in the list of the 20 highest paid players in L1 making €4.4m per year. So my understanding now is that the list must've been based on gross wages because it makes no sense to leave for a club that is not participating in CL while accepting a salary cut.

balla
06 Jun 2007, 08:36 AM
If my memory serves me correctly, Ribery was ranked sixth in the list of the 20 highest paid players in L1 making €4.4m per year. So my understanding now is that the list must've been based on gross wages because it makes no sense to leave for a club that is not participating in CL while accepting a salary cut.Bayern has heaps more money than any of the French teams. Bayern is up there with the Real,Barca, Man utd, Liverpool, Milan etc etc on the rich list. The only difference is they don't spend their profit as much as the others.