View Full Version : Who's going to stop Bayern this season?
06 Jul 2005, 03:54 AM
Took this poll from kicker and would like to see the general consensus here at BigSoccer. Choices are Schalke 04, Bremen, Hertha BSC, Stuttgart, Hamburg, Dortmund or no one. :D
sting-ray
06 Jul 2005, 10:41 AM
svw!
mofo4life
06 Jul 2005, 10:56 AM
no one, Schalke and Bremen are not good enough.
DemmahoM
06 Jul 2005, 11:29 AM
If it's gonna be a club that will stop Bayern it will be Schalke..
Germanshepherd
06 Jul 2005, 11:30 AM
Wasnt Dortmund the best team of the second part last season? They could be a real contender.
Schalke under Rangnik isnt a threat.
scorpio81
06 Jul 2005, 11:52 AM
lol, looks like im the only one that voted for hamburg! :o
WerderBremenYank
06 Jul 2005, 12:01 PM
Svw ;)
footyfan1
06 Jul 2005, 12:54 PM
My vote for Dortmund was a complete "fan vote".
We would need a "perfect season" to dethrone Bayern.
Much like the "perfect season" Bremen had in 2003-2004.
I'm not saying it cannot happen, but that it most likely will not happen.
footyfan1
06 Jul 2005, 12:55 PM
Wasnt Dortmund the best team of the second part last season? They could be a real contender.
Schalke under Rangnik isnt a threat.
Totally agree! Schalke will find a way to choke it away as usual........
The Old Lady Hertha
06 Jul 2005, 01:23 PM
I vote for Hertha because I am SO sure they will get at least 1 if not 2 strikers (Santa Cruz and Borghetti?). But we need to stay really healthy, much like everyone else for that matter.
06 Jul 2005, 02:10 PM
I vote for Hertha because I am SO sure they will get at least 1 if not 2 strikers (Santa Cruz and Borghetti?). But we need to stay really healthy, much like everyone else for that matter.
Hmm I wouldn't be so confident about getting Santa Cruz before the end of this season as he looks likely to stay, as for Borghetti... do you really want him? Excellent with headers but pretty useless otherwise. I can only base my assumptions from the recent Confederations Cup and 2002 World Cup but he doesn't seem like a team player.
SirManchester
06 Jul 2005, 02:15 PM
I don't see anyone topping Bayern's form right now...not even with the signings Shalke made and the players Bayern lost.
I hope Dortmund and Leverkusen do better this season though.
footyfan1
06 Jul 2005, 02:18 PM
Hmm I wouldn't be so confident about getting Santa Cruz before the end of this season as he looks likely to stay, as for Borghetti... do you really want him? Excellent with headers but pretty useless otherwise. I can only base my assumptions from the recent Confederations Cup and 2002 World Cup but he doesn't seem like a team player.
Exactly! I don't see the fascination with Borghetti! Two goals against a not 100% Germany team and he's all of a sudden a rising star?
I don't get that. I don't want him anywhere near my club........
06 Jul 2005, 02:19 PM
I would say Bremen and Schalke definately have what it takes to topple Bayern with Hamburg as the darkhorse but is very much dependent on the kind of season Van der Vaart has for them.
The Old Lady Hertha
06 Jul 2005, 02:27 PM
Exactly! I don't see the fascination with Borghetti! Two goals against a not 100% Germany team and he's all of a sudden a rising star?
I don't get that. I don't want him anywhere near my club........
Also scored in WC 2002 vs. TOP STRENGTH Italy and he scored only goal against Brazil. Plus he's better than anything we have at the moment :D
Also I think his style of play would be best suited for Hertha, who win a lot of free kicks and corners. Having Basteurk and Marcelinho fly by people as well have to open up crosses and a big man who positions himself as well as he does will be good.
Besides, you can say the same about Koller, except that Koller is much better on the ground than Borghetti. But aerially, they are almost the same (i'll give koller a bit of an edge)
06 Jul 2005, 02:34 PM
But Borghetti is also in his thirties already right? I guess you do make sense about Marcelinho and Basturk though.
Dead Fingers
06 Jul 2005, 02:35 PM
May sound funny, but I am more interested in seeing how teams like Hannover and Hamburg do. See if they can improve a few places this year. Also Koln...How are they going to do?
As for competing w/ Bayern....I suspect the usual suspects: Bremen and Schalke.
Competing for Europe and possible Dark Horses: Stuttgart and Dortmund
Not too much to be surprised about.
scorpio81
06 Jul 2005, 02:42 PM
with a fit benny lauth and mpenza, hamburg will be pretty damn dangerous if they manage to hold onto van buyten and boulahrouz...
especially with the creative forces of jarolim and van der vaart to propel the offense...
The Old Lady Hertha
06 Jul 2005, 02:45 PM
But Borghetti is also in his thirties already right? I guess you do make sense about Marcelinho and Basturk though.
Yea that still concerns me though, because we bought Bobic around that age, and you could say that he wasn't what we expected. Ditto for Alex Alves, Wichniarek, Luizao, in fact, any striker not named Michael Preetz in the past 5 years. :D
footyfan1
06 Jul 2005, 02:46 PM
with a fit benny lauth and mpenza, hamburg will be pretty damn dangerous if they manage to hold onto van buyten and boulahrouz...
Isn't Mpenza unhappy and wants to leave??