"en manos de federativos" Who's next? NT COACH

[Solid444]

http://www.terra.com.mx/Futbol/articulo/140564/

Whose next? is Hugo a lock?

[changoguapo]

http://www.terra.com.mx/Futbol/articulo/140564/

Whose next? is Hugo a lock?


Raul Arias has been the most consistent coach in Mexico, with Necaxa. How come hes never been suggested.
Perhaps we need Aguirre back!!!! Or give Hugo Sanchez a shot, to either confirm his greatness or shut him up for good. I dont think we need to go anywhere in the world to find a coach, especially Argentina.

[Various Styles]

There seems to be some sort of power struggle brewing within the FMF and many heads may role. I know Televisa has been campaigning behind Hugol with Lapuente right behind him. It is very possible that we wont see Lavolpe out of the National team unless De La Torre is no longer el Presidente and this is one of the reasons why Hugol has also critisized him. Could we see a new administration ? a new process ? I know Vergara has seized this oportunity to get in the mix and even suggest possible candidates for the Mexican National Team :http://www.ovaciones.com.mx/futnac/yatienen.html

When Lavolpe took over the national team he had some obstacles he had to overcome. The first two being at home were not difficult : Win the Gold Cup and qualify for the Olympics. The table was practically set for him. The next obstacles were to mount a serious challange for the Copa America, which we didnt and win a medal in the Olympics. and despite being in a group that made Mexico the most traditional football team with the strongest domestic league he failed to advance past the first round.

If Lavolpe gets sacked then it will be interesting to see who will take over. Hugol has campaigned so much that he is practically the only candidate in most peoples minds. Aguirre is still fresh in many peoples memeory but he has made his intention clear of staying in La Liga. Then there is Bianchi who has close ties to Televisa and i wonder why he wasnt their main candidate to take over America, hummmm...

[Solid444]

There seems to be some sort of power struggle brewing within the FMF and many heads may role. I know Televisa has been campaigning behind Hugol with Lapuente right behind him. It is very possible that we wont see Lavolpe out of the National team unless De La Torre is no longer el Presidente and this is one of the reasons why Hugol has also critisized him. Could we see a new administration ? a new process ? I know Vergara has seized this oportunity to get in the mix and even suggest possible candidates for the Mexican National Team :http://www.ovaciones.com.mx/futnac/yatienen.html

When Lavolpe took over the national team he had some obstacles he had to overcome. The first two being at home were not difficult : Win the Gold Cup and qualify for the Olympics. The table was practically set for him. The next obstacles were to mount a serious challange for the Copa America, which we didnt and win a medal in the Olympics. and despite being in a group that made Mexico the most traditional football team with the strongest domestic league he failed to advance past the first round.

If Lavolpe gets sacked then it will be interesting to see who will take over. Hugol has campaigned so much that he is practically the only candidate in most peoples minds. Aguirre is still fresh in many peoples memeory but he has made his intention clear of staying in La Liga. Then there is Bianchi who has close ties to Televisa and i wonder why he wasnt their main candidate to take over America, hummmm...

I think we can all agree that the next few weeks will be very interesting. I think that Hugo will get the job. He has been campaigning for a while now and if he is not picked, he will probably keep this aggressive nature and i dont think that the federation wants that.

[LMvCP]

There seems to be some sort of power struggle brewing within the FMF and many heads may role. I know Televisa has been campaigning behind Hugol with Lapuente right behind him. It is very possible that we wont see Lavolpe out of the National team unless De La Torre is no longer el Presidente and this is one of the reasons why Hugol has also critisized him. Could we see a new administration ? a new process ? I know Vergara has seized this oportunity to get in the mix and even suggest possible candidates for the Mexican National Team :http://www.ovaciones.com.mx/futnac/yatienen.html

When Lavolpe took over the national team he had some obstacles he had to overcome. The first two being at home were not difficult : Win the Gold Cup and qualify for the Olympics. The table was practically set for him. The next obstacles were to mount a serious challange for the Copa America, which we didnt and win a medal in the Olympics. and despite being in a group that made Mexico the most traditional football team with the strongest domestic league he failed to advance past the first round.

If Lavolpe gets sacked then it will be interesting to see who will take over. Hugol has campaigned so much that he is practically the only candidate in most peoples minds. Aguirre is still fresh in many peoples memeory but he has made his intention clear of staying in La Liga. Then there is Bianchi who has close ties to Televisa and i wonder why he wasnt their main candidate to take over America, hummmm...
:D Vergara hinting he doesnt wanted Hugo because of maturity issues.. if thats not the pot calling the kettle black, I dont know what is. Since Vergara has been assocaited to football, he has attacked America, Hugo Sanchez, Carlos Reinoso, and Cuauhtemoc Blanco.... you dont have to be a rocket scientist to realize he wants his name near those names becuase they sell papers. He has no room to speak

[PanchoM]

People I dont want considered :
Aguirre - has too many arguments with players
Hugo - Its inevitable that when he becomes coach there will be voices criticizing him the same way that did it to LaVolpe
Raul Arias- gets the job done ,nice guy ,but never liked the way Necaxa plays

I would like to see
Tomas Boy - A ffrickin character
Herrera- good guy
LAPuente -Smart

[Hugo Sanchez]

These are tough times. Maybe it hasn't hit home with everyone, but we're in the middle of another Dark Age. Sure, the WC berth isn't in jeopardy at this exact moment. But, it's getting there. Lavolpe's self-proclaimed process has belittled us, both to the rest of the world, and to ourselves. Internal bickering is not what we need at this point in time if we are to attempt to take it to the next level and aspire for more than just another 2nd round appearance.

WCQ is right now. Confederations Cup is next year. The following summer is the big show.

Let us forget about Bianchi, Scolari, Hiddink, etc. What will they do? Cobrarnos dinero como en el America? (No offense to Americanistas, but you know what I mean.) I'm not with that party. Televisa and Bianchi? Get out of here.

I'd prefer El Pelonete over Arias. 100x over. But my pick is Hugo. I had doubts before, but I figure this is the time. Who else is going to take the job?

El Vasco, Tena, Trejo?

I'd like to see Vergara's 2 candidates. Must be mind blowing. Probably Miguel Mejia Baron and Carlos Hermosillo. Some ridiculous idea, I bet. Afterall, Yayo de la Torre is the best coach in the world.

As for Hugo's performance on Sunday, can you blame him? Just because we've never seen this type of behavior from a Leader/RoleModel/Professional/Legend doesn't mean it's wrong. The guy is passionate. Let's start giving him some credit. I'm not an over the top fanboy, because of my name or my backing of him, but I am a real admirer. He proved he's a winner as a player and now he's doing it as a coach. Once again, aren't you all sick of this tired "I like him as a player but not as a person" crap? Out of all these people, who actually knows the guy? Anyway, not to be taken literally, I know. The problem is that Sanchez is finally manifesting the very destiny no one believed he would meet. Put up or shut up. He's putting up. This we cannot deny. Will he make us World Champs? We don't know that. Why is it so far fetched to believe - shouldn't we strive for the best? The guy said he was going to make Pumas champs and he did. His payroll is substantially miniscule in comparison to other 'top tier' clubs, yet he's pulling it off. Given the country's best and with his mental preparation, and with Manolo's guidance overseeing it :), we finally have something to look forward to instead of make believe medals, first class foreign coaches and the same roundabout lies as always.

Hugo/Lapuente in 2004!

Anyway..

If you were Hugo Sanchez, would you take the team with the Qualifiers already here? It's a huge step, especially considering all the hype that's been built up with the whole Lavolpe stuation. Do you abandon Pumas?

I would, but it's risky. I mean, on one hand, you are the defending national champion. You've got this comfortable perch from where to throw criticism at your enemies. Not that he wasn't on a pedestal before. Only difference is that he now has the credentials to back it up as a coach. But, the converse is that the most prized seat is finally opening itself up to you. I believe this is it. It's now or never. Unfortunately, it's not as glamorous an arrival as you'd expect. But, that's how things work out ultimately.

If Hugo's going to lead the squad to Germany and make believers out of all of us, now is as good a time as any.

[Hugo Sanchez]

People I dont want considered :
Aguirre - has too many arguments with players
Hugo - Its inevitable that when he becomes coach there will be voices criticizing him the same way that did it to LaVolpe
Raul Arias- gets the job done ,nice guy ,but never liked the way Necaxa plays

I would like to see
Tomas Boy - A ffrickin character
Herrera- good guy
LAPuente -Smart

Totally agree on the Hugo bit. As a supporter or not, the obvious dissent will make things very difficult. And this isn't about Hugo. It's about our national team. Do we want to endure the same 50/50 split that's been going on for the past two years? Inner turmoil is always negative, no matter how you slice it. Same reason why Lapuente left, which should have NEVER happened in the first place. Lebrija lobbied for Meza, Lebrija lobbied for Lavolpe. Hate him or not, Hugo is right about one thing: Todos se tienen que ir. As outrageous as that seems, do we really believe things will change just by a new face as coach? Los coruptos todavia siguen.

As for the candidates..

Aguirre is content in Spain, as he is trying to prove his worth abroad and show that his Pachuca turnabout was no fluke. The guy has class. Let him be.

Arias, well, Pancho said it.

Herrera may be a great blooming coach with a fiery personality to boot. But he isn't accomplished yet.

Lapuente is our Jedi Master. But he wouldn't take the job.

Tomas Boy. Now there's a name. That guy's as Mexican as anybody. His statements are heavy hitting. But his recent trajectory isn't that illustrious. We need relevance here.

Hugo is the hot candidate both out of results and circumstance but primarily because he's pretty much taken the 'Fuera con la Corrupcion' Crusades into his own hands.

[Rafael Hernandez]

:D Vergara hinting he doesnt wanted Hugo because of maturity issues.. if thats not the pot calling the kettle black, I dont know what is. Since Vergara has been assocaited to football, he has attacked America, Hugo Sanchez, Carlos Reinoso, and Cuauhtemoc Blanco.... you dont have to be a rocket scientist to realize he wants his name near those names becuase they sell papers. He has no room to speak

Fighting with Hugo or not, he is the main owner asking for change and that is seriously needed. De la Torre wants Lavolpe there because he know his time is ticking if he's gone. The owners are the one basically with the power to end his stupidity and Vergara has been the most vocal. Tv Azteca also want Lavolpe there because they are scared of Hugo. They know that Hugo hates Tv Azteca. So if he comes, their will be no more interviews and no shows where he goes to Los Protagonistas set and talks for half a show. I don't think Lavolpe firing is so clear unless some people start to stand up. The time is now especially since the 1st round of WC qualifiers look to be the easiest.

As for candidates, I still think Hugo needs experience but he is a great motivator and people like that and Aguirre are needed. Aguirre won't leave Osasuna. I don't know why people are mentioning Tomas Boy since his last two coaching jobs were failure and he gets in as much controversy as Hugo and hasn't produced in a while. I like Herrerra but feel he needs more experience. Lapuente would be great but I don't know if he is going to be a candidate for the job.

But talking about dark ages, I agree we are in a new one. I feel that Mexico had gotten to be the 3rd best team in the hemisphere and whenever we don't play near that level or close to it, we are strugling. Right now we aren't close to being the 3rd best. The problem I see is that we are too thin in some areas like forwards. I don't think Mexico has any great forwards than the one Lavolpe has called. Sure Kikin would be nice in the Tri but its not as if he overly superior or even superior to Bofo, Borguetti and Bravo. Hopefully the case will be that Lavolpe wasn't able to make them give out what they are truly capable of doing.

[Hecho en Chivas]

i say give Hugo a shot. lets see what he's made of. he said himself that he can turn the national team around. lets if it's true.

[Levante]

I have said it before and I will say it again............ HUGO IS A WINNER.

The credit belongs to the man in the arena.

[Solid444]

These are tough times. Maybe it hasn't hit home with everyone, but we're in the middle of another Dark Age. Sure, the WC berth isn't in jeopardy at this exact moment. But, it's getting there. Lavolpe's self-proclaimed process has belittled us, both to the rest of the world, and to ourselves. Internal bickering is not what we need at this point in time if we are to attempt to take it to the next level and aspire for more than just another 2nd round appearance.

WCQ is right now. Confederations Cup is next year. The following summer is the big show.

Let us forget about Bianchi, Scolari, Hiddink, etc. What will they do? Cobrarnos dinero como en el America? (No offense to Americanistas, but you know what I mean.) I'm not with that party. Televisa and Bianchi? Get out of here.

I'd prefer El Pelonete over Arias. 100x over. But my pick is Hugo. I had doubts before, but I figure this is the time. Who else is going to take the job?

El Vasco, Tena, Trejo?

I'd like to see Vergara's 2 candidates. Must be mind blowing. Probably Miguel Mejia Baron and Carlos Hermosillo. Some ridiculous idea, I bet. Afterall, Yayo de la Torre is the best coach in the world.

As for Hugo's performance on Sunday, can you blame him? Just because we've never seen this type of behavior from a Leader/RoleModel/Professional/Legend doesn't mean it's wrong. The guy is passionate. Let's start giving him some credit. I'm not an over the top fanboy, because of my name or my backing of him, but I am a real admirer. He proved he's a winner as a player and now he's doing it as a coach. Once again, aren't you all sick of this tired "I like him as a player but not as a person" crap? Out of all these people, who actually knows the guy? Anyway, not to be taken literally, I know. The problem is that Sanchez is finally manifesting the very destiny no one believed he would meet. Put up or shut up. He's putting up. This we cannot deny. Will he make us World Champs? We don't know that. Why is it so far fetched to believe - shouldn't we strive for the best? The guy said he was going to make Pumas champs and he did. His payroll is substantially miniscule in comparison to other 'top tier' clubs, yet he's pulling it off. Given the country's best and with his mental preparation, and with Manolo's guidance overseeing it :), we finally have something to look forward to instead of make believe medals, first class foreign coaches and the same roundabout lies as always.

Hugo/Lapuente in 2004!

Anyway..

If you were Hugo Sanchez, would you take the team with the Qualifiers already here? It's a huge step, especially considering all the hype that's been built up with the whole Lavolpe stuation. Do you abandon Pumas?

I would, but it's risky. I mean, on one hand, you are the defending national champion. You've got this comfortable perch from where to throw criticism at your enemies. Not that he wasn't on a pedestal before. Only difference is that he now has the credentials to back it up as a coach. But, the converse is that the most prized seat is finally opening itself up to you. I believe this is it. It's now or never. Unfortunately, it's not as glamorous an arrival as you'd expect. But, that's how things work out ultimately.

If Hugo's going to lead the squad to Germany and make believers out of all of us, now is as good a time as any.

I agree, i think the characteristic that we need now more than ever, is someone with huevos. This is something LaVolpe never had. You would sometimes ask youself why players werent giving their all in the field and you need someone who can bump up the intensity. Thats what Hugo and Aguirre have that LaVolpe is lacking, huevos. Hugo is needed NOW.

CON HUEVOS CABRONES!!!!

[Hecho en Chivas]

I agree, i think the characteristic that we need now more than ever, is someone with huevos. This is something LaVolpe never had. You would sometimes ask youself why players werent giving their all in the field and you need someone who can bump up the intensity. Thats what Hugo and Aguirre have that LaVolpe is lacking, huevos. Hugo is needed NOW.

CON HUEVOS CABRONES!!!!
Aguirre was the fu<king man when he was in charge of the team. he was a great motivator. that's something Lavolpe does not have. those other coached that were listed (Herrera, Hugo, Boy,) are all motivators. out of those 3 i would take Hugo though. Herrera needs some more experience and Boy did not do well with his last team.

[lond2345]

Aguirre was the fu<king man when he was in charge of the team. he was a great motivator. that's something Lavolpe does not have. those other coached that were listed (Herrera, Hugo, Boy,) are all motivators. out of those 3 i would take Hugo though. Herrera needs some more experience and Boy did not do well with his last team.
what do you mean Herrera needs more experienece and then you say you want Hugo? didn't Herrera become a coach the tourney after Hugo started? (I could be wrong but I don't think Hugo has that many more seasons as a coach than Herrera).

Hugo won the title with a modest squad, plus his team had to battle the refs who were trying to stop him from winning it (which adds more merit to the title), Herrera has done well with a modest team and could have gotten further if it wasnt for the refs screwing his team which was common when he was in Atlante.

[changoguapo]

Its time for drastic changes. Aguirre had just started with Pachuca when he got selected but he was respected. Sanchez, may not be liked, but he will be respected. Even those that dont want Sanchez, have to agree that drastic measures need to be done, Mexico is the best league in CONCACAF we cannot be intimidated by smaller countries.
Suggestions: Sanchez, Trejo, Tena (either brother)

[haragan]

My 1st choice is Hugo and I don't care if some thing he is inmature. He has proven through out his career that he is a winner. Our only winner by the way, not like Marquez, torrado, Hermosillo, Villa, Cuauthemoc, Ochoa, Vidrio, etc... Unlike Lavolpe, he says that Mexico has all the tools, just not the right handler. I just want to see my beloved Mexico win something of inportance outside of Mexico.

He appears to be a great motivator and leader. Who else has stood up against corruption and the like against the FMF. I want some one who not only knows what he is doing but knows how to get the most out of his players.

Second choice and very close is Bianchi. Do I need to say why?

[Hecho en Chivas]

appears that Lapuente is the main candidate.hope it's true. i never wanted him to leave in the first place. http://www.esto.com.mx/040818/fut_inter/2fut_inter.asp (http://)

[Dos Equis]

I would like to see Lapuente back he's proven that he is a great coach and a great motivator. My second choice would have to be Hugo Sanchez he's a great motivator and he says he can take Mexico to the top so lets see what he can do.

[Various Styles]

There is no doubt that Lapuente is a great coach one of the best in Mexico but he didnt allways have the seleccion playing its best. In his first run as coach he was eliminated from the Gold Cup by the U.S which if im not mistakened fielded many collegiate players. Anyways Mexico had no buissness losing to any U.S squad circa 91 !!! In Lapuentes second run things were easier as he took a squad that had been molded, prepared and brought along quite nicely by diffrent coaches : Menotti, Mejia Barona and Milutinovic. Lapuente just brought in a few players to adjust to his needs and well to be honest he didnt do anything exceptional. like Lavolpe his greatest accomplishment was in Mexico (Confed Cup) In the WC he lost the most important match (Germany) we played decent against South Korea and Belgium, and thats after the fact that we had to come from behind both times. Against Holland we were just lucky, they could of easily won by three goals. I dont think Lapuente brings anything new to the table, but people know what we are getting into with Lapuente.



Oh and some more refreshing of the memory about "Lapuente para Presidente" his appointed U-23 coached failed to take our squad to the Olympics and he then bombed at the Gold Cup losing to Canada !!! and this was the rebuilding of the Nat team. He pretty much left Meza with a half sunken ship, Lavolpe will at least leave a half decent squad, nothing like the Dark Ages not even close lets not exagerate here. that said i prefer to take my Chances with Hugol with Lapuente as back up just in case things dont work out for Ego Sanchez..

[El Cabrito]

I found it funny that Lavolpe still doesn't get it...

"No entiendo porque quieren pasar de cero a cien tan rápido, hay que trabajar y este grupo de la sub-23 pronto puede dar una sorpresa", finalizó.

We are not at "zero", we are not at times were we need to give "sorpresas" to be considered a success... Just take the next damn step!


An intresting point was brought up about Hugo/Lapunte... Is this actually a possibility? Would they accept a situation like that mentioned? I know that sweeden has a similar situation and it has had respectable results.