View Full Version : Germany's Away Kit...
mcweiss
21 Jun 2005, 05:15 PM
Now that we are subjected to the red away kit, can anyone provide a history of the other uniform colors that the NationalElf has used throughout their history and perhaps the significance of the colors?
I.e. Green was mentioned in another forum and the reasoning was the DFB colors are green and white. I know that they have worn red (current), black and dark grey before the green, but I am looking for history and any significance to the colors...
SirManchester
21 Jun 2005, 05:37 PM
I know that Germany's always had grey white and black training suits and uniforms so maybe they decided to put them in the NT.
scorpio81
22 Jun 2005, 12:05 PM
actually i read this on the ger-arg [R] thread and forgot to respond to it...
the actual reason for the green and white away thread is, as somebody pointed out earlier, out of respect for ireland...
this is because ireland was the first country/team to agree to play a friendly against germany after WWII...
HerrRupert
22 Jun 2005, 12:23 PM
actually i read this on the ger-arg [R] thread and forgot to respond to it...
the actual reason for the green and white away thread is, as somebody pointed out earlier, out of respect for ireland...
this is because ireland was the first country/team to agree to play a friendly against germany after WWII...
haeh? never heard that before hard to belive
footyfan1
22 Jun 2005, 12:46 PM
actually i read this on the ger-arg [R] thread and forgot to respond to it...
the actual reason for the green and white away thread is, as somebody pointed out earlier, out of respect for ireland...
this is because ireland was the first country/team to agree to play a friendly against germany after WWII...
haeh? never heard that before hard to belive
That's the story I've heard too........
mcweiss
22 Jun 2005, 01:08 PM
actually i read this on the ger-arg [R] thread and forgot to respond to it...
the actual reason for the green and white away thread is, as somebody pointed out earlier, out of respect for ireland...
this is because ireland was the first country/team to agree to play a friendly against germany after WWII...
I am the one that brought this up in the other forum. I heard this from a friend of my from Dublin and was wondering if it was true. I checked the DFB website and I don't think they list friendly matches back from those dates. This could be a soccer urban legend which is why I started this thread. Hopefully someone can confirm the story being that they are now two of us that have heard this same story of Ireland being the first team to accept a match with post-war Germany...
footyfan1
22 Jun 2005, 01:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by scorpio81
actually i read this on the ger-arg [R] thread and forgot to respond to it...
the actual reason for the green and white away thread is, as somebody pointed out earlier, out of respect for ireland...
this is because ireland was the first country/team to agree to play a friendly against germany after WWII...
I am the one that brought this up in the other forum. I heard this from a friend of my from Dublin and was wondering if it was true. I checked the DFB website and I don't think they list friendly matches back from those dates. This could be a soccer urban legend which is why I started this thread. Hopefully someone can confirm the story being that they are now two of us that have heard this same story of Ireland being the first team to accept a match with post-war Germany...
I've heard that story from Germans I consider very reliable football sources.
logi1893
22 Jun 2005, 01:24 PM
Hello !
Here are all DFB matches listed (since 1908):
http://www.dfb.de/dfb-team/nationalteam/statistik/index.html
The first match after WW2 was Germany-Switzerland (1:0) in 1950.
So I don't think that this story is true.
The Old Lady Hertha
22 Jun 2005, 01:24 PM
According to Abseits-Soccer (http://www.abseits-soccer.com/nat/nat-matches.html), Germany didn't play Ireland in their first friendly from WWII...they played Switzerland twice, then Turkey, then Austria and then Ireland. Maybe it's the agreement that matters only, a NT can agree to a friendly long before they actually play the game.
The Old Lady Hertha
22 Jun 2005, 01:25 PM
Hello !
Here are all DFB matches listed (since 1908):
http://www.dfb.de/dfb-team/nationalteam/statistik/index.html
The first match after WW2 was Germany-Switzerland (1:0) in 1950.
So I don't think that this story is true.
All right another Bundesliga fan in the forums...Welcome! :)
Germanshepherd
22 Jun 2005, 01:27 PM
The first team Germany played a friendly against after WW2 was of course Switzerland. They did mention it last year during our game in Basel.
http://www.dfb.de/dfb-team/db/dfbnat.php?lang=D&action=year&jahr=1950&liga=Nationalmannschaft
The green white has to be from the DFB logo. The other story also seems to be too far fetched.
scorpio81
22 Jun 2005, 01:28 PM
maybe the logo was formed afterwards as well? :D
Germanshepherd
22 Jun 2005, 01:29 PM
Maybe it's the agreement that matters only, a NT can agree to a friendly long before they actually play the game.
Yeah, but noone would choose their colors because of that.
The Old Lady Hertha
22 Jun 2005, 01:32 PM
I agree, but Germany were trying to make friends after the war, maybe this could have been a way to gain friends, although I remember reading that Ireland and Germany during the war were fairly cordial, even if they weren't allies.
But yea, that story does sound far-fetched.
Germanshepherd
22 Jun 2005, 01:32 PM
maybe the logo was formed afterwards as well? :D
Hell, I think green as a colour has officially been introduced in Germany first after Ireland agreed to play a friendly against Germany after WW2. Im pretty sure its true.
scorpio81
22 Jun 2005, 01:40 PM
Hell, I think green as a colour has officially been introduced in Germany first after Ireland agreed to play a friendly against Germany after WW2. Im pretty sure its true.
i guess that ends the debate and answers the question, then! :cool:
The Old Lady Hertha
22 Jun 2005, 01:40 PM
Boy did that take a long time. :)
BayernWake
22 Jun 2005, 01:45 PM
The first team Germany played a friendly against after WW2 was of course Switzerland. They did mention it last year during our game in Basel.
So that explains the current red away kits!
Just kidding :D
colins1993
22 Jun 2005, 01:58 PM
According to Abseits-Soccer (http://www.abseits-soccer.com/nat/nat-matches.html), Germany didn't play Ireland in their first friendly from WWII...they played Switzerland twice, then Turkey, then Austria and then Ireland. Maybe it's the agreement that matters only, a NT can agree to a friendly long before they actually play the game.
West Germany playing Austria or Switz in 1950 would be like cousins playing each other. And Turkey, well who were they back then?
I have heard the IRL explanation as well and have NO reason to doubt it.
But now I'm wondering why they've switched to red ( and black)??
It couldn't be just to make some more geld form shirt sales could it???
Germanshepherd
22 Jun 2005, 02:03 PM
West Germany playing Austria or Switz in 1950 would be like cousins playing each other. And Turkey, well who were they back then?
I have heard the IRL explanation as well and have NO reason to doubt it.
I have a reason. The friendly against Ireland hasnt been the first game. So the myth has an important part quite wrong from the beginning. Makes the whole story rather doubtful.