Germany's Away Kit...

[footyfan1]

West Germany playing Austria or Switz in 1950 would be like cousins playing each other. And Turkey, well who were they back then?

I have heard the IRL explanation as well and have NO reason to doubt it.

But now I'm wondering why they've switched to red ( and black)??

It couldn't be just to make some more geld form shirt sales could it???


I think "Geld" is exactly the reason. Why not?

The English cash in on shirt sales big time!

[footyfan1]

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Originally Posted by colins1993
West Germany playing Austria or Switz in 1950 would be like cousins playing each other. And Turkey, well who were they back then?

I have heard the IRL explanation as well and have NO reason to doubt it.


I have a reason. The friendly against Ireland hasnt been the first game. So the myth has an important part quite wrong from the beginning. Makes the whole story rather doubtful.


Maybe it's because Ireland was the first "British" country to welcome the Germans for a friendly????

I don't know, but that old myth is the one I heard. Is there a better explanation??

Maybe Fritz Walter's favorite colors were Green and White?? :)

[Germanshepherd]

Maybe it's because Ireland was the first "British" country to welcome the Germans for a friendly????


Irleand isnt "british".


I don't know, but that old myth is the one I heard. Is there a better explanation??


http://www.schiedsrichter.at/index-Dateien/logo_ger.jpeg

[F96]

I'll mail the dfb, maybe someone answers.

[footyfan1]

Irleand isnt "british".


You are right. Although Ireland wasn't officially free of British rule until 1949 when the Republic was officially established. You can't deny the heavy British influences in Ireland.

Apologies for my mistake.


http://www.schiedsrichter.at/index-Dateien/logo_ger.jpeg


Nice. Why the Green? Why not red or black? It's a good question. It's not important, but interesting.........

[footyfan1]

I'll mail the dfb, maybe someone answers.


Thank you!!

[Germanshepherd]

Nice. Why the Green? Why not red or black? It's a good question. It's not important, but interesting.........

Its the away kits. The home kits have white and black, so the away kits can have the colors of the german FA. Seems quite logical to me.

[F96]

Maybe because the field is green... ;)

[footyfan1]

Its the away kits. The home kits have white and black, so the away kits can have the colors of the german FA. Seems quite logical to me.


Yo! I know this......

I'm just wondering because of the old story.

If it's that simple, then fine. I just heard that old story for so long, it's hard to let it go! :)

[BayernWake]

Here's another source for the Ireland-explanation. Not saying I believe it, but it's just another opinion. Whether it's myth or not, who knows:

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,1563,347342,00.html

"Thanks for your explanation of why the Italian kit is blue. Can anyone then explain why the German away strip is green?" asked Clayton Fossett.

We've had the biggest response ever to Knowledge Unlimited for this question. All of you agree that it dates back to a friendly between Ireland and Germany shortly after the second world war.

As Enda Kelly tells it: "After world war II, the Republic of Ireland was the first country to play Germany. Naturally the teams changed shirts after the match. One version of the story says that the Germans were so poor (I hasten to add financially, just in case there's any confusion with the present team), that they could not afford an away strip for their next match, and thus used the Irish shirts with the crest replaced. Thus began the tradition."

The second version, which Enda thinks is more likely - and is supported by everyone else - is that Germany was a bit of a pariah nation at the time, "and to show their gratitude to the Irish for bringing them back into the international football scene they chose green as their away strip."

[AndyMead]

I agree, but Germany were trying to make friends after the war, maybe this could have been a way to gain friends, although I remember reading that Ireland and Germany during the war were fairly cordial, even if they weren't allies.

Ireland was neutral. They had mutual defence pacts with both Germany and England. If Germany invaded, then Ireland had an agreement with England to help defend them. Likewise, if England had invaded, Ireland had agreements with Germany for support.

Basically, the country, politically speaking, wanted to be left alone. Many Irish citizens, however, served with the Allies during the war.

[Germanshepherd]

As Enda Kelly tells it: "After world war II, the Republic of Ireland was the first country to play Germany. [wrong]Naturally the teams changed shirts after the match. One version of the story says that the Germans were so poor (I hasten to add financially, just in case there's any confusion with the present team), that they could not afford an away strip for their next match[wrong], and thus used the Irish shirts with the crest replaced. Thus began the tradition."


Germany played against Switzerland (twice), Austria and Turkey before they played Ireland. So Enda kelly mised that quite important part. And I also wonder which strip they wore in Switzerland and Austria if they have been so poor. :eek:

[DanielHSV]

Germany played against Switzerland (twice), Austria and Turkey before they played Ireland. So Enda kelly mised that quite important part. And I also wonder which strip they wore in Switzerland and Austria if they have been so poor. lol

Don't forget the Turkey match, they must have been naked there aswell ;)

[mcweiss]

Germany played against Switzerland (twice), Austria and Turkey before they played Ireland. So Enda kelly mised that quite important part. And I also wonder which strip they wore in Switzerland and Austria if they have been so poor. lol

Is there any chance that the match between Ireland and Germany that is referred to is not in the statistics? i.e. only official matches from that time period were listed and the game was not "official"?

After hearing this story more than once, I did check the stats (several years ago) and saw that the first match was not Ireland. After never getting a legit answer and the topic coming up recently I decided to start this discussion...

Hope we hear back from the DFB to settle this...

[DanielHSV]

I dont think so, cos the DFB has a list of all the games.
in 1950 there was only one game:
2.11.1950 Deutschland - Schweiz
Stuttgart 1:0 (1:0)

In 1951 there were 6:
15.04.1951 Schweiz - Deutschland
Zürich (SUI) 2:3 (1:1)
17.06.1951 Deutschland - Türkei
Berlin 1:2 (0:1)
23.09.1951 Österreich - Deutschland
Wien (AUT) 0:2 (0:0)
17.10.1951 Irland - Deutschland
Dublin (IRL) 3:2 (2:0)
21.11.1951 Türkei - Deutschland
Istanbul (TUR) 0:2 (0:0)
23.12.1951 Deutschland - Luxemburg
Essen

So the Ireland story has to be hoax.

[unclesox]

Er... I don't own one, but I heard somewhere that German passports are green as well. :o True?

[F96]

Yes.

http://images.google.com/images?q=personalausweis&hl=en&hs=Wx9&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:de-DE:official&sa=N&tab=wi

[unclesox]

Yes.

http://images.google.com/images?q=personalausweis&hl=en&hs=Wx9&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:de-DE:official&sa=N&tab=wi
Thanks! :cool:

[footyfan1]

Yes.

http://images.google.com/images?q=personalausweis&hl=en&hs=Wx9&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:de-DE:official&sa=N&tab=wi


Hold on a second. Please let me know if I'm wrong here "Hannover96Girl".

What you posted is a Personalausweis. Or an "I.D. Card".

A "Passport" is a "Reisepass". They are green on the inside, but not outside.

At least that's how my ex-wife explained the difference between the two to me back when we first got married.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.wdr.de/themen/politik/europaeische_union/reisepass/_img/reisepass_400q.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.wdr.de/themen/_config_/mediabox/index.jhtml%3Furl%3D/themen/politik/europaeische_union/reisepass/_mo/audio_041026_reisepass.jhtml&h=300&w=400&sz=29&tbnid=hPFCGzZdQMcJ:&tbnh=90&tbnw=120&hl=en&start=21&prev=/images%3Fq%3DReisepass%26start%3D20%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:de-DE:official%26sa%3DN

[Alex_K]

What you posted is a Personalausweis. Or an "I.D. Card".

A "Passport" is a "Reisepass". They are green on the inside, but not outside.



Yep. A Reisepass is red.