Semi-final con cara de FINAL

[Hartfield]

Sao Paulo-River Plate que partidazo... Desde ahora le voy a San Pablo.

[ecuajhony]

yo tambien, a River lo veo flojo en una de sus lineas defensivas

[lond2345]

Menos mal que gano River. Banfield no mas sabe meter goles de pelota parada i no saber jugar buen futbol. River/Sao Paolo/Chivas dan buen espectaculo, juegan buen futbol i por eso el futbol a ganado por tener a estos 3 equipos en la seminifinal, no importa quien gane el buen futbol gano.

[Caturro]

A mi me gusta ver a Banfield jugar. Es verdad que no son muy tecnicos, pero meten y se entregan mas que ningun otro equipo. Ademas, ese Bilos .... que jugadorazo. Por lo visto hoy, pueden entregarnos un buen partido del punto de vista emocional por lo menos, porque el partido contra River fue un partidazo.

De todas maneras, este River no era la aplanadora que fue al principio de la copa. A Gallardo lo veo irregular y la defensa tiene desconcentraciones severas de vez en cuando. Luis Gonzales es definitivamente el punto mas alto.

Despues del inesperado derrumbe de Santos (Leo y Robinho tenian tanto peso en el equipo?) mi final anticipada seria Sao Paulo vs Chivas. Veo dificil que River logre sobreponerse a este Sao Paulo... un equipo muy completo. Entre el Sao Paulo y Chivas... creo que el campeon sera Sao Paulo. Aunque no los veo muy superiores a Chivas... no me sorprenderia si Chivas se quedara con la copa. Muy buen equipo.

Ahora, mi pregunta es... podra Chivas aguantar la presion de una final de libertadores? (siempre que le ganen al Ateltico Paraenense)

[ecuajhony]

agrego con caturro sobre el equipo de Banfield, saben entregarse en los partidos y tienen su futbol muy propio,

asi que el comentario de lond2345 esta muy mal hecho, va tener que informarse mejor para la proxima

[lond2345]

agrego con caturro sobre el equipo de Banfield, saben entregarse en los partidos y tienen su futbol muy propio,

es diferencia de opinion. A mi personalmente me gustan los equipos ofensivos que dan buen espectaculo a la gente. No estoy diciendo que Banfield sea un mal equipo, nomas que no me gusta su idea futbolistica que es anti-futbol. Anti-futbol no significa que el equipo no luche or tenga gran entrega, anti-futbol es anti-futbol avierto, anti espectaculo. Ahora contra river porque perdia por dos goles empezo a atacar, pero en casi todos los partidos que jugo en la copa Banfield jugaba a no perder, se dedicaba a defender, jugar phisico i gastar tiempo.

Sao Paolo es favorito en mi opinion en la seria contra River i probablemente le gane. El que gane de ahi va a ganar la copa. Chivas vs Atletico Paranaense esta 50/50, cualquiera puede ganar i por eso mejor no doy pronostico porque esta dificil decir quien gane esta serie entre chivas y paranaense. Chivas si tubiera sus jugadores yo diria que serian favoritos en la serie contra Paranaense. Yo creo que asta sin sus jugadores Chivas con un buen resultado en Brazil creo que irian a la final.

[peruytu]

Well it seems that Atl. Panaraense is the luckiest team ever in Copa Libertadores history (aside from that Independiente team that barely beat Universitario in 1972 in the final because la "U" starters were away playing for Peru NT), beating Santos, who were without a couple of important players and now chivas who will also be without some important players.
Looks like it will be an all brazilian final with Sao Paulo taking it all.

[ecuajhony]

es diferencia de opinion. A mi personalmente me gustan los equipos ofensivos que dan buen espectaculo a la gente. No estoy diciendo que Banfield sea un mal equipo, nomas que no me gusta su idea futbolistica que es anti-futbol. Anti-futbol no significa que el equipo no luche or tenga gran entrega, anti-futbol es anti-futbol avierto, anti espectaculo. Ahora contra river porque perdia por dos goles empezo a atacar, pero en casi todos los partidos que jugo en la copa Banfield jugaba a no perder, se dedicaba a defender, jugar phisico i gastar tiempo.



buenos pues mi pana, para la proxima vallase viendo todos los partidos por que por si no lo sabe Banfield tiene 18 goles a favor y no es que lo este defendiendo pero para mi es un equipo que se merece aver llegado donde llego

[TRICOLOR BRASIL]

Well it seems that Atl. Panaraense is the luckiest team ever in Copa Libertadores history (aside from that Independiente team that barely beat Universitario in 1972 in the final because la "U" starters were away playing for Peru NT), beating Santos, who were without a couple of important players and now chivas who will also be without some important players.
Looks like it will be an all brazilian final with Sao Paulo taking it all.

Yes, but dont forget Sao Paulo also lost 3 key players: Grafite (injured), Cicinho (Confed Cup) and Diego Tardelli (U20).

With this 3, I would be much more confident. But I think we still have good chances to take the cup.

[Century's Best]

Those of you who know River Plate well - WHAT weaknesses exactly do they have - some have said their defense has attention lapses?

They've got Gallardo and Mascherano, national team caliber players; in fact, Mascherano was a headache for BRAZIL last week.

I believe my SPFC can reach the final, but it'll all hinge on how well they do at Morumbi. Both teams will have significant fan contingents at the away matches - and oddly Nunez and Morumba are very similar in structure.

[Hartfield]

Simple...with out Gallardo River is nothing.

[chaski]

22.6.2005 São Paulo FC vs. River Plate 21.45 (00.45+ GMT)
23.6.2005 Atl. Paranaense vs. Chivas Guadalajara 21.30 (00.30+ GMT)
29.6.2005 River Plate vs. São Paulo FC 21.45 (00.45+ GMT)
30.6.2005 Chivas Guadalajara vs. Atl. Paranaense 20.00 (01.00+ GMT)

[lond2345]

buenos pues mi pana, para la proxima vallase viendo todos los partidos por que por si no lo sabe Banfield tiene 18 goles a favor y no es que lo este defendiendo pero para mi es un equipo que se merece aver llegado donde llego
Goles a favor no tiene nada que ver si un equipo da buen espectaculo o no. Yo no dije que banfield no sea un buen equipo, yo dije que a mi me gustan los equipos je juegan buen futbol dando espectaculo i por eso estoy contento de que esten river/sao paolo/chivas en la seminfinal. Hubo justicia para el buen futbol

[efernandez9]

buenos pues mi pana, para la proxima vallase viendo todos los partidos por que por si no lo sabe Banfield tiene 18 goles a favor y no es que lo este defendiendo pero para mi es un equipo que se merece aver llegado donde llego
esta gente liquido a Mi DIM con 5 de esos goles!
nosotros le metimos 4 de visitantes alparanaense y miren quien esta en semi finales....


meten mucho hevo los del taladro y la suerte estaba con tanta entrega de ellos (los del uniforme mas feo en argentina)


le voy a sao Pablo! ALL THE WAY (NOT all the buey......I wanted to make that clear in this sensitive world of love and peace)

[Caturro]

Honestly... I think RIGHT NOW the most important player for River has to be Lucho Gonzales. His regularity is amazing... he is always one of the highest points in the team and serves multiple purposes in the field. However, when Gallarado is on... he is unstopable. When both of them are playing good, River can beat anybody. They make the rest of the team play. Macherano and Dominguez are by nature more defensive but they will gladly add their talent to offensive mode when the team is going forward.

With such a strong midfield, by comparison, the defense and offense seem a little flaky. Tecla Farias is on another level, but Salas is not 100%, Jose Sand has wasted many chaces to become the next great attacker and la Gata Fernandez doesn't get the continuity I would like him to have.

River has a great team... but like I said (and seeing how the game against Bafield developed) they have to improve plenty in order to overcome Sao Paulo. They can't just give up possession of the ball for 15 minutes like they did against Balfield... if they do that against Sao Paulo, or any Brazilian team for that matter, is just too risky.

[Caturro]

Also, I didn't know Sao Paulo was missing so many important players.. it seems that all the sporting events happening right now have affected in a negative way what could've been a more spectacular ending for this tournament. Santos, Chivas... now Sao Paulo. Truly sad. :(

[locoxriver]

Also, I didn't know Sao Paulo was missing so many important players.. it seems that all the sporting events happening right now have affected in a negative way what could've been a more spectacular ending for this tournament. Santos, Chivas... now Sao Paulo. Truly sad. :(

Yeah, I guess that sux.. but I heard that they got a new Foward for the Copa Libertadores named Amoroso. We'll see how good/bad he does on Wednesday (hopefully he sucks and makes 20 own/auto-goals :D).

Vamo' River Plate!!!!!!!

[locoxriver]

Those of you who know River Plate well - WHAT weaknesses exactly do they have - some have said their defense has attention lapses?

They've got Gallardo and Mascherano, national team caliber players; in fact, Mascherano was a headache for BRAZIL last week.

I believe my SPFC can reach the final, but it'll all hinge on how well they do at Morumbi. Both teams will have significant fan contingents at the away matches - and oddly Nunez and Morumba are very similar in structure.

Well River has weaknesses in defense. The problem is that both outside defenders (volantes) go up and attack. Those two players are Federico Dominguez and Carlos Diogo. They attack, so if there is a counter-attack, those two sides might be open, and it will take them time to go back to defend. But, you still most be careful. Their attacks don't always turn into counter-attacks.. they can be very costly for the oppent team, since sometimes the ball ends up inside the goal. ;)

About good players, I believe lots of people are underestimating River in these boards. River counts with many good players such as Mascherano, Luis Gonzalez, Gallardo, Farias, Montenegro.... and even Zapata, which I don't like very much, had a great game vs. Banfield. Many people also are saying that River played bad against Banfield, and that is most certainly not true. They played an extremely good first half, that could have put River up by a huge difference. Sure, I admit, in moments of the second half we suffered. But that's how you win the Copa Libertadores. The way River won the game on Thursday is the way any team needs to win to win this cup.

Well, I'm done writing for now... If you got any more question about River, you know who to ask. ;) . Now tell me something about Sao Paolo.. Weaknesses?? Strenghts?? Key Players??

Thanks
- Gonzalo

[Century's Best]

Gonzalo, sorry I didn't answer you till now.

THough the first match is over, the one thing that can cripple Sao Paulo is if they get nervous. As well, we don't really have ONE standout player. Though we have experienced strikers like Luizao and Amoroso and a great goalkeeper in Rogerio Ceni, we do not have anyone who is a highlight such as Salas or Mascherano.

My condolences that your team's bus was pelted with stones. Totally unacceptable, disgusting behavior by some idiotic fans.

Good luck next week.

[vipnerd]

It's gonna be an uphill task for River ... not scoring away will haunt them.

Amoroso looked dangerous with space ... will certainly be a headache at Bs As.


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