Kryptonite
14 Jun 2005, 05:24 PM
Ok, I just talked to Ryan Smith for 33 minutes. Here's what he said.
Banners - The CCS banner policy is as follows: No banner may obstruct views (unless front office consent is given. Example would be jersey flag, city flag.) They must also be no larger than 4 feet by 6 feet unless previously approved by the Front Office (Ryan Smith or Scott Debolt). As we all know, no banner can be derogatory or commercial.
As we know, they even can give approval on game day. Examples would be banners belonging to away fans or the US flags belonging to Sam's Army.
The Fire Greg banner was removed because it obstructed views of the press box and it was larger than 4 feet by 6 feet. For no other reason was it removed. Had it been no larger than 4x6 and not blocking views, it would have been fine. He did mention the "we deserve better" banner and that no complaints were heard about that one.
Pink Slips - Ryan said these need to stop. When we drop 15, 30, whatever of them at a time, yes, someone could get hurt. When that happens, they (injured party) could slap us with an assault charge. Even if they weren't hurt, but thought we had intent to hurt, they could slap us with the same charge.
There will be a security presence near the tunnel next game, and if they see any pink slips, Ryan said the thrower of slips should prepare themselves to be thrown out of CCS and a possible assault charge.
He did admit that the line about littering was given "on the fly" basically because the security guy didn't know what else to say. I mentioned several examples (club seat holders throwing peanuts on the ground, LUD's confetti) and he agreed with me that the littering line was bogus.
He also mentioned that since CCS is private property, management has the right to pull tickets. If it's an individual ticket holder, they probably won't post a picture of the guy with a note saying "don't sell to this guy", but if it's a season ticket holder they could possibly not sell future season tickets to him. Also, if a season ticket holder is thrown out of the stadium for good, and is caught back in those seats during that same season, he could be prosecuted on trespass charge.
I did mention the "pink card" idea, and if each person brought in a limited (ie 3) supply of pink cards to wave around during the DSW Yellow Card promotion, that would be fine. Now, if they catch someone walking through the gates with 25 cards (even sneaking them in), they'll know something is up and the appropriate personnel would be alerted.
He also said that pink bed sheets would be fine, as long as they were no larger than 4 feet by 6 feet. Now, if we had several of them, and put them close to each other, they'd give the appearance of one huge sheet, but in reality, they'd be small.
Someone had the idea of pink t-shirts. If we wanted to go through with that, i'm sure that'd be fine.
I then spoke with Ryan about Crew Groove and he said that if we wanted to meet with them (even a few of them and a few of us) to iron things out, they'd give us contact information for CG and open up the Huntington Club for our use.
After that, the topic moved to the Supporter's Shield. Everytime they see a mention of the "Supporter's Shield lady" or similar brought up, to say they cringe might be appropriate. We all know the story about how Peter Wilt contacted Scott DeBolt and then DeBolt attempted to contact Zak. After attempts to reach Zak had failed, DeBolt basically panicked and said "give it to me" because the front office didn't see any leadership in 137.
That story was repeated and I asked where the Shield was. It's currently in the trophy case. As far as either one of us could figure out, it currently "belongs" to the members of 137. If we want to have it on display in 137 or out at the tailgate, they'd be happy to do it. He just reminded me that if anything happens to it, it's our responsibility since it's out of the office.
He understands the need to vent, and said that paying fans should have the right to vent when things don't go fine, just there's a right way and a wrong way.
He ended by saying that if anyone has any questions, comments, complaints, etc. feel free to call him at any time. His direct office number is (614) 447-4102. He doesn't want to see people get written up or thrown out, but if it comes to that, then they'll be ready to do what they need to do.
Banners - The CCS banner policy is as follows: No banner may obstruct views (unless front office consent is given. Example would be jersey flag, city flag.) They must also be no larger than 4 feet by 6 feet unless previously approved by the Front Office (Ryan Smith or Scott Debolt). As we all know, no banner can be derogatory or commercial.
As we know, they even can give approval on game day. Examples would be banners belonging to away fans or the US flags belonging to Sam's Army.
The Fire Greg banner was removed because it obstructed views of the press box and it was larger than 4 feet by 6 feet. For no other reason was it removed. Had it been no larger than 4x6 and not blocking views, it would have been fine. He did mention the "we deserve better" banner and that no complaints were heard about that one.
Pink Slips - Ryan said these need to stop. When we drop 15, 30, whatever of them at a time, yes, someone could get hurt. When that happens, they (injured party) could slap us with an assault charge. Even if they weren't hurt, but thought we had intent to hurt, they could slap us with the same charge.
There will be a security presence near the tunnel next game, and if they see any pink slips, Ryan said the thrower of slips should prepare themselves to be thrown out of CCS and a possible assault charge.
He did admit that the line about littering was given "on the fly" basically because the security guy didn't know what else to say. I mentioned several examples (club seat holders throwing peanuts on the ground, LUD's confetti) and he agreed with me that the littering line was bogus.
He also mentioned that since CCS is private property, management has the right to pull tickets. If it's an individual ticket holder, they probably won't post a picture of the guy with a note saying "don't sell to this guy", but if it's a season ticket holder they could possibly not sell future season tickets to him. Also, if a season ticket holder is thrown out of the stadium for good, and is caught back in those seats during that same season, he could be prosecuted on trespass charge.
I did mention the "pink card" idea, and if each person brought in a limited (ie 3) supply of pink cards to wave around during the DSW Yellow Card promotion, that would be fine. Now, if they catch someone walking through the gates with 25 cards (even sneaking them in), they'll know something is up and the appropriate personnel would be alerted.
He also said that pink bed sheets would be fine, as long as they were no larger than 4 feet by 6 feet. Now, if we had several of them, and put them close to each other, they'd give the appearance of one huge sheet, but in reality, they'd be small.
Someone had the idea of pink t-shirts. If we wanted to go through with that, i'm sure that'd be fine.
I then spoke with Ryan about Crew Groove and he said that if we wanted to meet with them (even a few of them and a few of us) to iron things out, they'd give us contact information for CG and open up the Huntington Club for our use.
After that, the topic moved to the Supporter's Shield. Everytime they see a mention of the "Supporter's Shield lady" or similar brought up, to say they cringe might be appropriate. We all know the story about how Peter Wilt contacted Scott DeBolt and then DeBolt attempted to contact Zak. After attempts to reach Zak had failed, DeBolt basically panicked and said "give it to me" because the front office didn't see any leadership in 137.
That story was repeated and I asked where the Shield was. It's currently in the trophy case. As far as either one of us could figure out, it currently "belongs" to the members of 137. If we want to have it on display in 137 or out at the tailgate, they'd be happy to do it. He just reminded me that if anything happens to it, it's our responsibility since it's out of the office.
He understands the need to vent, and said that paying fans should have the right to vent when things don't go fine, just there's a right way and a wrong way.
He ended by saying that if anyone has any questions, comments, complaints, etc. feel free to call him at any time. His direct office number is (614) 447-4102. He doesn't want to see people get written up or thrown out, but if it comes to that, then they'll be ready to do what they need to do.