Official German "Nationalmannschaft" thread

[The Old Lady Hertha]

Lol yea...DF will get upset.

Carry on.

[F96]

Lukas Sinkiewicz(19) and Marcell Jansen(19) have been called up for the games against Slovakia and South africa.

http://www.dfb.de/dfb-team/nationalteam/spieler/right.php

[mofo4life]

and no Hamann and no Huth

[The Old Lady Hertha]

Sinkiewicz??? Did I miss something here? :confused:

[Dead Fingers]

Lol yea...DF will get upset.

Carry on.


:)

Dortmund and Berlin fans plotting. hmmmmm...

[mofo4life]

Sinkiewicz??? Did I miss something here? :confused:

what's the problem? he's one of the best U21 players and a starter 4 Köln.

[The Old Lady Hertha]

I didn't even know he was being watched thats what I said.

Although I would select Fathi over him. :D

Is he a CD btw? or LB?

[mofo4life]

He's a CB, Jansen is the left back

[ohk4]

from Kicker online - an article from Jupp Derwall
http://kicker.de/content/news/artikel.asp?folder=7100&object=319606&liga=1&saison=2005%2F06&spieltag=2&gruppe=17974

the highlights

- I hope we never see Wörns or Hamann in the national team again

- Ballack can't carry this team forever

- From a technical standpoint Germany and Holland were worlds apart

- Klinsmann has accomplished a lot and will be smarter after the Holland game

- Goalkeeper rotation: has never existed, which doesn't mean it is bad. But what is its purpose. He will have to make a decision by early next year, but for whom? Lehmann hasn't improved but Kahn has gotten worse.

[HeyaBVB]

from Kicker online - an article from Jupp Derwall
http://kicker.de/content/news/artikel.asp?folder=7100&object=319606&liga=1&saison=2005%2F06&spieltag=2&gruppe=17974

the highlights

- I hope we never see Wörns or Hamann in the national team again -
Hamann yeah, but Wörns in Top Shape?

- Ballack can't carry this team forever

RIght ... we need a good backup


- From a technical standpoint Germany and Holland were worlds apart


Hmm we never had "Primadonnas"

- Klinsmann has accomplished a lot and will be smarter after the Holland game
Aus Fehlern lernt man (You learn from errors)

- Goalkeeper rotation: has never existed, which doesn't mean it is bad. But what is its purpose. He will have to make a decision by early next year, but for whom? Lehmann hasn't improved but Kahn has gotten worse.
(Kahn literally sux .. he imho belongs to the list above (Hamann and if it has to be wörns)

[The Old Lady Hertha]

He's a CB, Jansen is the left back

Then I approve. :) Thats a position that needs a lot of work.

[F96]

http://epaper01.niedersachsen.com/eZeitung/2005090228113html/NP/images/img282666.jpg

http://eur.news1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/ng/sp/dpa/20050901/15/514637620.jpg

[footyfan1]

the highlights

- I hope we never see Wörns or Hamann in the national team again

I can't agree. On Woerns, Germany isn't deep at center back and you don't want to go into a World Cup with no experience at that position. Seeing that Metzelder is sucking more than Jenna Jameson right now, Woerns might be the only alternative to give that back line some real international experience.



- Ballack can't carry this team forever

Agree. But I think he'll have loads of help from Podoloski, Kuranyi and even Frings.


- From a technical standpoint Germany and Holland were worlds apart

Completely agree.


- Klinsmann has accomplished a lot and will be smarter after the Holland game

Completely agree. Germany will benefit from it and give Holland a better match overall the next time.


- Goalkeeper rotation: has never existed, which doesn't mean it is bad. But what is its purpose. He will have to make a decision by early next year, but for whom? Lehmann hasn't improved but Kahn has gotten worse.

Partially agree. The problem I have with this is that Lehmann wasn't ever as bad as he was made out to be and Kahn wasn't as good as he was made out to be.

I also can't agree with my BVB colleague that Kahn "sucks". No way.

My problem with him is that I don't think he's as good as the press and many of his fans try to make him out to be.

However, I couldn't blame Klinsmann for picking either one right now. I feel Lehmann is better, but freely admit I'm biased toward him.

That being said, I honestly cannot understand how anyone can see the latest performances of both men and say Kahn is better. I honestly cannot.

I've gotten to the point that I don't care who Klinsmann chooses. I just hope whomever he chooses doesn't hurt the team.

[F96]

My problem with the goalkeeper rotation is that recently Klinsmann's quotes indicate more and more that Kahn will be #1 and I don't see how he can decide that right now seeing that Lehmann is playing great right now whereas he made many errors for Arsenal back then when Klinsmann said the competition was wide open??

[JeffS]

Getting back to the starting 11 topic ;)

Since the central defensive position is a major weakness, and the left side is in trouble until Lahm comes back, perhaps a 3-5-2 is the way to go.

GK - Kahn or Lehmann -
it's a toss up as far as I'm concerned. Both are pretty solid, but neither is overwhelmingly great.

Back 3 - Friedrich / Woerns / Mertesacker -
Friedrich is solid and consistent, Mertesacker looks like a solid, cool-under-pressure younster with real talent, and Woerns is still pretty solid and brings tons of experience. Huth and Hinkel and perhaps Farenhorst can back up.

Midfield - Schneider (right side) / Ernst (left side)/ Kehl (defensive mid), Frings (other defensive mid - the back needs help ;) ), Ballack (attacking mid).
Of course, Schweinstieger and Deisler would be the mercurial super subs - Schweini could play left or central, and Deisler right or central. Borowski could be the solid back up at defensive mid. Hitzilsperger could back up on the left or center.

Forwards - Poldolski / Asamoah
Kuranyi and Klose would be as good. Frankly, this is a toss up. You could put in any combination of these four, and they would all be equally mediocre. Only Poldolski looks to be the phenom with the tremendous potential to be a star, but he is still young and unproven. I went with Poldolski and Asamoah because I think these two are the superior althetes with better speed. As I said, Poldoski is young phenom, and I've always liked Asamoah's enthusiasm, strength, speed, and pretty good skill. Kuranyi can be a crafty player that can score, but he's both slow and inconsistent. Klose is very good in the air, and decent with everything else.

If Klinsmann sticks with the 4-4-2 (which I'm sure he will), I would go with the following:

Kahn
Friedrich / Mertesacker / Woerns / Ernst
Schneider / Frings / Ballack / Schweinsteiger
Poldolski / Asamoah

[footyfan1]

http://epaper01.niedersachsen.com/eZeitung/2005090228113html/NP/images/img282666.jpg

http://eur.news1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/ng/sp/dpa/20050901/15/514637620.jpg


Great photos!!

[robledo]

Ismael Considers German Switch
9/2/2005 9:12:00 PM
Bayern Munich defender Valerien Ismael has not ruled out the possibility of declaring for Germany - despite harbouring hopes that his native France will eventually cap him.


The 29-year-old told respected publication Kicker Sportmagazin that he would consider playing for his adopted country if asked.

"If Jürgen Klinsmann wants me, I’d play for Germany," said the former Werder Bremen player.

However, Ismael has denied that he is openly declaring for Germany. He told the official Bayern Munich Web site: "I’ve not been knocking on Klinsmann’s door and asking to play for Germany. That’s not true. There’s no reason to switch allegiance for now. If there was no chance at all for me with France, and Klinsmann believed I could help Germany win the World Cup, then I’d have to think about it."

German team manager Oliver Bierhoff has been equanimous, saying:

"Obviously we’re delighted to hear Ismael would be interested in playing for Germany. But the case is similar to that involving Lincoln, who we understand also would prefer to play for his country of birth." Bierhoff has already gone on record to state that the national team cannot be bought, something Bayern chairman Karl-Heinz Rummenigge agrees with. "You can’t just go out and buy a national side like you would at club level," said the Bayern boss. "The team should represent Germany."

With Schalke's Brazilian midfielder Lincoln also declaring an interest in playing for Germany, it is clear that personal ambition is rife in World Cup year for those who do not see a current route to the finals.

[scorpio81]

http://www.fcbayern.t-com.de/en/news/news/2005/05412.php?fcb_sid=8a1941248673a8c9af77ccb4eab4e3bc


article on the phenomenal scoring rate for a midfielder that ballack has...

29 goals in 59 appearances... most of the guys goals have come in the last 3 seasons... he could possibly go on for 3 seasons more with euro2008 being his swansong, so if he keeps up his current scoring rate (highly unlikely, imho) he could end up with a whopping 60 goals for the national team! :eek:

[Cazlon]

Imo Owomoyela should get another chance, he made some terrific games for his club lately and was one of the few who didn't completely suck at Bratislava.

U21 EMQ vs England is on tonight btw, judging from their recent performances that will probably be a pleasant watch.

[The Old Lady Hertha]

Will Arne be back for the Wednesday match? That might limit Owo's chance. Althought I would feel more comfortable if Arne was in than Owo. :D