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smithfan
20 Aug 2005, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by chelodelgado
Would he Metzelder be ready for the WC? He is the best defender Germany has, although that's based on what he did a few years ago. And as for Worns, this guy is a disaster ever since the 98 croatia game.





He's not yet as strong?? Right now, CMetz completely sucks!!! I hope Kehl's return will help CMetz get back on his game.

The blame for the loss of two points against Wolfsburg and the loss of a point against Schalke can be placed squarely on Metzelder's shoulders.

I've been telling these guys since I've come back to BigSoccer not to expect too much from Metzelder. He's just not the same anymore.

No one listened and I suppose no one is watching because right now, he's worse than he was after he came back last season.

He has to get his confidence back. I don't think he trusts that achilles yet........

I wish you guys wouldn't place so much hope in him. You are bound to get disappointed.

he has a bad start...I agree. But which BVB player plays really great so far? ;) If he gains he confidence back (and I'm still sure about that), he'll become the old Metzelder again. Clearly, he has the skills. If I were Klinsmann, I would have nominated Metzelder so that he knows, that Klinsmann plans with him. That's my opinion.

Gregoriak
20 Aug 2005, 04:44 PM
Maybe Phillip Lahm could be tried as a RB instead of Friedrich and Jansen as a LB.

footyfan1
20 Aug 2005, 07:19 PM
he has a bad start...I agree. But which BVB player plays really great so far? ;)


Rosicky, Kringe and Dede.



If he gains he confidence back (and I'm still sure about that), he'll become the old Metzelder again. Clearly, he has the skills. If I were Klinsmann, I would have nominated Metzelder so that he knows, that Klinsmann plans with him. That's my opinion.

I feel you don't nominate a player who doesn't deserve it. I don't care what his name is. It sends the wrong signal to the deserving players trying to make it.

smithfan
21 Aug 2005, 07:12 AM
Rosicky, Kringe and Dede.

what Kringe? I'm completely disappointed with Kringe... :confused:





I feel you don't nominate a player who doesn't deserve it. I don't care what his name is. It sends the wrong signal to the deserving players trying to make it.

I'm not saying he should play, but wouldn't you nominate Metzelder for Klinsmann's fitness test? I think you misunderstood me since I was refering to the last and the next fitness test.

shutoutj
21 Aug 2005, 10:08 AM
Maybe Phillip Lahm could be tried as a RB instead of Friedrich and Jansen as a LB.
I really think Jansen is at home on the left wing. That's where he played for the most part during the U-21 and World Youth Championships and he did very well there.
Friedrich is a very good RB, and when he isn't playing well Hinkel should fill in there.

The Old Lady Hertha
21 Aug 2005, 01:54 PM
How would your starting elven look like right now?

------------------------Kahn (Hildebrand)------------------------

Friedrich (Hinkel)-Mertesacker (Metzelder)-Woerns (Huth)--Lahm (Jansen)

-------------------------Ernst (Frings)---------------------------

----Deisler (Schneider)--------------------Schweinsteiger(Ernst, Owo?)

------------------------Ballack (Schneider or Deisler...Lincoln?)

-----------Prinz Poldi (Kuranyi)------Klose (Asamoah)-------------

I'm sold on Jansen now...he can be amazing.

I think Klose is a better complementary player to Poldi than Kuranyi, he's a better passer and header IMO.

Lincoln could be a weapon if he qualifies to be in German NT...he's definitely better than at least Borowski, Engelhardt and Owomoyela.

Defense worries me....for once it will be our weak spot. Hopefully someone will step up this year.

F96
21 Aug 2005, 02:46 PM
Lincoln could be a weapon if he qualifies to be in German NT...he's definitely better than at least Borowski, Engelhardt and Owomoyela.

I'm totally against Licoln playing for Germany.

The Old Lady Hertha
21 Aug 2005, 02:52 PM
I'm totally against Licoln playing for Germany.

I'm not totally against it...well at least not as much as I was against that prick Ailton playing for us. Lincoln is okay by me...but if it is an option I think we should take it.

smithfan
21 Aug 2005, 03:23 PM
I'm totally against Licoln playing for Germany.

ditto...he isn't German.

He just wants to play for us because he realised that he's not good enough for Brazil. His motives are just wrong....!

Besides, he plays for that shittie Schlacke... ;) :D jk

The Old Lady Hertha
22 Aug 2005, 08:35 PM
I'm not totally against it...well at least not as much as I was against that prick Ailton playing for us. Lincoln is okay by me...but if it is an option I think we should take it.

What was I thinking?? :confused:

Go ******** yourslef Lincoln :p

sting-ray
22 Aug 2005, 09:05 PM
if he plays with us maybe he will spit and make us loose anyways

The Old Lady Hertha
22 Aug 2005, 09:28 PM
I hate the attitudes of some of teh Schalke players (like Lincoln, Kuranyi, Ailton) of the past few years. I didn't like them before but now I hate them even more than Bayern... they are now #2 behind the Yankees :mad:

footyfan1
23 Aug 2005, 12:00 AM
I hate the attitudes of some of teh Schalke players (like Lincoln, Kuranyi, Ailton) of the past few years. I didn't like them before but now I hate them even more than Bayern... they are now #2 behind the Yankees :mad:


Schalke is my club's natural rival and it's hard for me to say that. Schalke has never benefitted from blatant favoritism or gotten away with openly breaking rules.......

The Old Lady Hertha
23 Aug 2005, 12:03 AM
Schalke is my club's natural rival and it's hard for me to say that. Schalke has never benefitted from blatant favoritism or gotten away with openly breaking rules.......

I'm a bit young and have not covered the Bundesliga as long as you have, and thus I guess I can't say I can be as mad as you are about that.

But the vibe I'm getting from Schalke is all bad now. I think they are becoming classless. But thats just me talking.

footyfan1
23 Aug 2005, 12:15 AM
I'm a bit young and have not covered the Bundesliga as long as you have, and thus I guess I can't say I can be as mad as you are about that.

Imagine Hertha cheating and being favored so much it disgusts you and you will know the feeling I had when I knew I had to get away from Bayern.


But the vibe I'm getting from Schalke is all bad now. I think they are becoming classless. But thats just me talking.

They are only trying to beat Bayern at their own game. And they haven't broken any transfer rules yet. However, it is rumored they tampered with Meira.

Nothing proven though.

footyfan1
23 Aug 2005, 12:19 AM
What was I thinking?? :confused:

Go ******** yourslef Lincoln :p


LMAO!! :D

The Old Lady Hertha
23 Aug 2005, 12:19 AM
Imagine Hertha cheating and being favored so much it disgusts you and you will know the feeling I had when I knew I had to get away from Bayern.




They are only trying to beat Bayern at their own game. And they haven't broken any transfer rules yet. However, it is rumored they tampered with Meira.

Nothing proven though.

Looks like another club...
http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/Alexascoolsite/Antiyankees.gif

:D

footyfan1
23 Aug 2005, 12:21 AM
Looks like another club...
http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/Alexascoolsite/Antiyankees.gif

:D


That's exactly who they and their fans remind me of.........

The Old Lady Hertha
23 Aug 2005, 12:24 AM
Red Sox fans and Dortmund fans have a lot in common...we should have a fan relationship. :D

Honestly, while unrealistic, that would be COOL...admit it! :D

footyfan1
23 Aug 2005, 12:27 AM
Red Sox fans and Dortmund fans have a lot in common...we should have a fan relationship. :D

Honestly, while unrealistic, that would be COOL...admit it! :D


I would love that. But we are getting into stuff that should be on the Dortmund sub-forum.......