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dror_khayat
01 Jun 2005, 06:15 AM
what CL winning side is widelly regarded as the better one between those 2:van gaal's ajax in 95' or herrera's inter in 64'???
please,before you answer,pay attention to this:this time,the question is not(!!!) what club side was the better one in your personall opinion.the question is what club side,between those 2,most of poeple/football fans around the world rate higher.what club side,between those 2,is widelly regarded as the better one?what side is widelly considered(not just by you!) better?
I would like you also to explain me how and from where do you know which club side,between those 2,is considered better.how do you know what side,between those 2,most of football fans around the world rate higher?please,explain.just voting it's not enough...
so vote and explain.
thank's...
dor02
01 Jun 2005, 06:39 AM
Most people on Bigsoccer would vote for Ajax 95 because they're more recent.
Journalists would probably go for Inter 64.
How come you are comparing these two teams?
I vote for Inter 64. Herrera was better coach than Van Gaal because he was more innovative. Facchetti and Burgnich are better defenders than Blind and Frank De Boer. Mazzola was one of Italy's greatest midfielders whereas Seedorf isn't really considered to be one of Holland's greatest midfielders. Inter also had Luis Suarez, an attacking midfielder with great ability. I think he also played as a striker. Ajax 95's forward line was better than Inter 64's though. Litmanen, Kluivert and Kanu were better than Milani and Peiro but those Ajax forwards individually aren't as gifted as Suarez.
afgrijselijkheid
01 Jun 2005, 07:09 AM
i'm sorry, but comparing individual players with '95 AJAX is not even remotely the point - as a team, they had their true power, and i believe most journalists would also say the same
Clan
01 Jun 2005, 07:09 AM
Never mind the fact that most people on here weren't even born in -64, i doubt if more than 2 have even seen them.
Still, thats never stopped Bigsoccer posters from giving indepth and conclusive opinions before :D
dror_khayat
01 Jun 2005, 07:29 AM
dear dor2,I have 2 questions for you:
-how do you know that most of football fans would vote for van gaal's ajax?
-how do you know most of journalists would vote for herrera's inter?
dror_khayat
01 Jun 2005, 02:52 PM
don't forget to explain your selections.I mean,tell me how and from where do you know which side is widelly regarded as the better one between those 2. please,explain me...
dror_khayat
01 Jun 2005, 03:20 PM
please,explain your selections.
dor02
02 Jun 2005, 09:58 AM
dear dor2,I have 2 questions for you:
-how do you know that most of football fans would vote for van gaal's ajax?
-how do you know most of journalists would vote for herrera's inter?
Why do I know that most football fans would vote for Ajax 95? Most people on BigSoccer are too shallow - not everybody though - to notice that soccer / football existed before Beckham, Zidane and the other stars of the last ten years. This is because most of the people who go on the internet are children and teenagers and most of them are soccer fans who don't have any real knowledge of the history of the game. Newbies! It is just like what Clanblue said. He believes that only about two people have seen Inter 64 and I've seen highlights of Inter from that time. From what I saw they counter-attacked in an astonishing style. At that time they were efficient but they also had touches of sheer brilliance. At a time when Italian soccer was lacking in professionalism and disipline, Inter brought those things to the game. Sandro Mazzola once said in an interview on the UEFA Champions League show that he believed what Herrera did with Inter in the 60s shaped how football is today in terms of training methods and tactics.
If you look at the way these teams were looked at before they won their respective Finals, Inter 64 were a team of experianced players and fans and journalists would have known about these players. Ajax in comparision were in a way the unknown quantity because half of the players in that team were either players who were fresh from the Ajax youth team or brand new, unknown recruits from the 18-21 age group. Inter 64 didn't have players as young as Seedorf and Kluivert. Facchetti was only about 21 years old but he already had some World Cup experiance when he played for Italy at Chile 62. The most experianced guys in Ajax's team were Blind who was 34 and Rijkaard who was 33.
How would I know most journalists would vote for Herrera's Inter? Journalists have more knowledge on the history on the sport than BS Members. It's common knowledge. Some of them do talk about absolute garbage but they would have more knowledge of the likes of Di Stefano, Puskas, Eusebio, Mazzola and other stars from the past compared to the regular BS member. Heard of Brian Glanville and Keir Radnedge from World Soccer magazine? Those journalists and the several others who work for one of the most famous soccer magazines in the world would understand why Inter 64 were a big team. Here are some of my reasons on why I have said that. Most of those writers are over 40 and would have been willing to research about the likes of Inter 64 or seen them in person. The really experianced ones like Brian Glanville, who is around 72 years old, have been in the business for years and they can truely understand what impact Inter has made on soccer.
They are my reasons. That's all.