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Italia4life
16 May 2005, 02:28 PM
Will They ever start attacking more than worrying about defense?
RegginaCalcio
16 May 2005, 02:42 PM
Why? Unless you're Brazil you have to depend on defense to win championships. Their problem is sitting on a lead, not playing defensively and smart. You can still push forward without being susceptible in the back. It's really all about coaching strategies and putting these practices to fruition.
Look at France when they won their WC and Euro...they were great offensively but they also had a very strong defense with the likes of Laurent Blanc, Marcel Desailly, Lilian Thuram, Bixente Lizarazu, Franck Lebeouf..they beat out a very talented Brazilian team EASILY and they had Barthez in nets...IMAGINE! ;)
Italia4life
16 May 2005, 02:48 PM
Every World Cup we get screwed playing just defense look what happen in Korea 1-0 lead and we lost its time to start being more aggressive on attack and let Nesta, Cannovaro, Pannuchi worry about defense plus we have the best goalkeeper in the world Buffon
RegginaCalcio
16 May 2005, 03:02 PM
Every World Cup we get screwed playing just defense look what happen in Korea 1-0 lead and we lost its time to start being more aggressive on attack and let Nesta, Cannovaro, Pannuchi worry about defense plus we have the best goalkeeper in the world Buffon
You forgot, WC 94, WC98, Euro2000, Euro2004...
What i'm saying is that every national team has an identity they stick to throughout the years and Italy is no different. They can't just forget about defending. Not allowing goals is alot more then the back 4 and the keeper. They have to stop sitting on leads and continue to push forward but at the same time they also have to remember not be caught at the back. Sitting on 1-0 leads is the problem.
Italia4life
16 May 2005, 03:23 PM
tHATS WHAT I MEANT WHEN THERE UP 1-0 THEY STOP ATTACKING HOPEFULLY LIPI WILL CHANGE THAT
Wog Vader
16 May 2005, 03:56 PM
They've also been cursed with bad finishing, bad luck, and bad officiating in the last few tournaments. At least they don't play the catennaccio anymore.
Italy's problem is that when they make what is the proper decision to sit on a lead (toward end of game, when fatigue is setting in), where other teams would be called tactically astute to defend, Italy is critisized as being the same old-Italy.
Strummerman
16 May 2005, 06:23 PM
tHATS WHAT I MEANT WHEN THERE UP 1-0 THEY STOP ATTACKING HOPEFULLY LIPI WILL CHANGE THAT
Well look at the recent results 4-3 against Belarus 2-0 Scotland, I think the problem now is that Lippi is experimenting with young uns and they tend to be happy just scoring 1 to 2 goals, if the old guard was playing like Inzaghi and or Vieri and they still had legs they would score at will witness what they did to Wales
phillips10
16 May 2005, 06:43 PM
They've also been cursed with bad finishing, bad luck, and bad officiating in the last few tournaments. At least they don't play the catennaccio anymore.
Italy's problem is that when they make what is the proper decision to sit on a lead (toward end of game, when fatigue is setting in), where other teams would be called tactically astute to defend, Italy is critisized as being the same old-Italy.
right, most teams will sit on 1-0 leads nowadays for better or worse. The reality is, sans Space Cadet Totti, Italy's midfield is filled with hard-worker ballwinner types...there isnt going to be much free-flowing offense...but grind it out results.
Cassano
16 May 2005, 06:45 PM
right, most teams will sit on 1-0 leads nowadays for better or worse. The reality is, sans Space Cadet Totti, Italy's midfield is filled with hard-worker ballwinner types...there isnt going to be much free-flowing offense...but grind it out results.
A Lazio fan Hailing Totti? :D
nicephoras
16 May 2005, 07:40 PM
A Lazio fan Hailing Totti? :D
"space cadet" is not really a compliment.
nicephoras
16 May 2005, 07:42 PM
right, most teams will sit on 1-0 leads nowadays for better or worse. The reality is, sans Space Cadet Totti, Italy's midfield is filled with hard-worker ballwinner types...there isnt going to be much free-flowing offense...but grind it out results.
Well, that was before Lippi. Certainly Trap insisted on playing clods like Zanetti and Perotta, who make any semblance of a good passing attack impossible. Trap apparently thought that if you leave three men up top with no one to pass them the ball, they'd do OK anyway.
I think now with Pirlo and Gattuso in the lineup, you'll see a bit more free flowing football, as Italy has demonstrated.
Wog Vader
17 May 2005, 12:33 PM
right, most teams will sit on 1-0 leads nowadays for better or worse. The reality is, sans Space Cadet Totti, Italy's midfield is filled with hard-worker ballwinner types...there isnt going to be much free-flowing offense...but grind it out results.
Uh-huh... looking at the game vs. Sweden for example. Italy didn't sit on their lead there, they kept pushing, but towards the end, when the offensive players tired, around the 75th minute, they shut up shop. It was the correct call under the circumstances, and if any other team would have done it, they would have been labelled "tactically astute".
King Rooney
17 May 2005, 04:49 PM
Will They ever start attacking more than worrying about defense?
you know nothing, italy is concentrating alot more on attack right now
Strummerman
17 May 2005, 10:40 PM
you know nothing, italy is concentrating alot more on attack right now
good post