View Full Version : York University pulls out of stadium deal...MLS in Toronto dead?
Sempuukyaku
12 May 2005, 01:03 PM
Props to UVanMathias for digging this up:
http://www.tsn.ca/soccer/news_story.asp?id=124698
I think this pretty much signals the end of the Toronto MLS expansion bid...unless MLSE decides to pay for the stadium themselves which they aren't doing.
That's really too bad :(
Stan Collins
12 May 2005, 01:05 PM
Yep. In the end, if MLSE had had enough faith in the deal, they in all likelihood could have come in for less than the Argos had been proposing and saved it.
UVanMathias
12 May 2005, 01:12 PM
Slam Dunk? Do you think that Don Garber is really George Tenant? Either way he'll definitely get a medal of freedom.
Sempuukyaku
12 May 2005, 01:14 PM
It's a shame because I really would've liked to see MLS in Toronto, but at the same time from what I've seen posted over at the Canadian supporter forums most Canucks DESPISE MLSE. We could've had a Canadian version of Metrostars in all possibility.
SoccerPrime
12 May 2005, 01:15 PM
On the plus side this boads wells for the future prospects of Rochester NY getting a MLS team (come on, I am trying to be the "glass-half-full guy").
BringBackTheBlizzard
12 May 2005, 01:19 PM
Yes, that's it now well and truly stone cold dead so Toronto now joins Trenton, Milwaukee, Cleveland etc in the list of MLS projects which ultimately turned out to be based on wishful thinking. Oh well life goes on. To be fair to Don Garber what he said was it was a slam dunk if the stadium is built.
Sempuukyaku
12 May 2005, 01:23 PM
The CSA should consider themselves EXTREMELY LUCKY that FIFA didn't just say "screw this" and move the WYC to South Korea instead in '07. South Korea already has the facilities and infastructure necessary to hold such a tournament and as a result has less beaurcratic red tape.
Joe Stoker
12 May 2005, 01:32 PM
Commiserations to all the soccer fans of Toronto and the metro area. It nearly defies logic that a city of that size and of such international flavor does not have a premier-level pro soccer team nor has had one since... well...
To borrow... Where there is no vision, pro soccer perishes.
Perhaps we should send up CARE packages of heavy wool socks to UT, York, and the Argos' office for all those cold feet.
DoyleG
12 May 2005, 01:56 PM
MLS Toronto is now more dead than the Monty Python parrot.
VioletCrown
12 May 2005, 02:12 PM
The CSA should consider themselves EXTREMELY LUCKY that FIFA didn't just say "screw this" and move the WYC to South Korea instead in '07. South Korea already has the facilities and infastructure necessary to hold such a tournament and as a result has less beaurcratic red tape.
That was my first thought.
Then again, what's the average attendances at WYCs?
... I've been trying to answer my own question, but the FIFA website's being to slow for me.
VioletCrown
12 May 2005, 02:13 PM
MLS Toronto is now more dead than the Monty Python parrot.
And that takes care of expansion in '06. And maybe even '07. Looks like Garber knew what he was saying.
DoyleG
12 May 2005, 02:42 PM
And that takes care of expansion in '06. And maybe even '07. Looks like Garber knew what he was saying.
Would be dead for '06. More of a bet will see two teams in '07.
suppitty
12 May 2005, 03:06 PM
Maybe this opens the door for Rochester/a 2nd NYC team which would absolutely destroy anything the Metros have if it happens.
Sempuukyaku
12 May 2005, 03:22 PM
Maybe this opens the door for Rochester/a 2nd NYC team which would absolutely destroy anything the Metros have if it happens.
If the Metros get Harrison, they'll be fine. 85% of their fan base is based in New Jersey anyway, not NYC.
Stan Collins
12 May 2005, 03:26 PM
If the Metros get Harrison, they'll be fine. 85% of their fan base is based in New Jersey anyway, not NYC. Yeah, but it means you couldn't put a team in Queens unless the Harrison deal was done. Even then, there'd be concern they were skulking off to become the Nets.
MLS Toronto is now more dead than the Monty Python parrot.
Nah. They're just sleeping.
Gioca
13 May 2005, 11:27 AM
Sweet we can now end the silly debate that Canada should be part of MLS and start focusing on American cities that need teams.
Chowderhead
13 May 2005, 11:39 AM
I'm happy about this because I'm against Canadian teams in MLS. That doesn't mean that I'm against soccer in Canada. Here's hoping that they get it together up there and get a nice little league together. But it's on them. Not us.
Rocket
13 May 2005, 11:42 AM
Sweet we can now end the silly debate that Canada should be part of MLS and start focusing on American cities that need teams.
I doubt it.
It's only a matter of time before we start hearing murmurings about MLS expansion to Montreal now that they have an SSS in the works.
Stan Collins
13 May 2005, 11:55 AM
I doubt it.
It's only a matter of time before we start hearing murmurings about MLS expansion to Montreal now that they have an SSS in the works. Their owner's not really interested in MLS. But someday, I imagine a Canadian city will be interested, and we'll get to hear all those "they're takin' 'er jobs!" posts again, and all those who confuse Canada's economy with that of a third world country.