What would have happened if Everton were able to play in the 1986 European Cup?

[dor02]

What do you think Everton would have done if they were able to play in the 1986 European Cup?

[Matt Clark]

I think Pat van der Hauwe and Kevin Ratcliffe would have finally faced up to their manly urges and got married. Reid would have had surgery to finally have a second ear grafted on to his otherwise flawless head, the Steven/Stevens spine would have broken in two places and Howard Kendall would have discovered a cure for bowel cancer on the bus from the airport to the team hotel in Vladivostok, only to die of horse madness shortly after dinner that very same night.

All that and an away-goals defeat after two 0-0 draws against Dynamo Butt******** led to an international incident in which no one did themselves any favours and Sheedy actually got laid. With a woman. A live one!

Oh - and they'd never have made the FA Cup final, either. Not that it mattered, because we were always going to win that anyway.

[basso001]

All that and an away-goals defeat after two 0-0 draws [...]
LOL!!

[dor02]

I think Pat van der Hauwe and Kevin Ratcliffe would have finally faced up to their manly urges and got married. Reid would have had surgery to finally have a second ear grafted on to his otherwise flawless head, the Steven/Stevens spine would have broken in two places and Howard Kendall would have discovered a cure for bowel cancer on the bus from the airport to the team hotel in Vladivostok, only to die of horse madness shortly after dinner that very same night.

All that and an away-goals defeat after two 0-0 draws against Dynamo Butt******** led to an international incident in which no one did themselves any favours and Sheedy actually got laid. With a woman. A live one!

Oh - and they'd never have made the FA Cup final, either. Not that it mattered, because we were always going to win that anyway.

You really hold a grudge against them. The intensity of the Liverpool rivalry.

[Matt Clark]

Arf ... no, that's not quite it. For a start, the "intensity" of the rivalry is hugely overstated, usually by blues. And for a second (and as an extension of the first point), holding a grudge against Everton would be a bit like hating the colour yellow. A pointless waste of effort and time, in other words.

No, I was just having a bit of fun with this thread. Had you chosen to make the topic "What would have happened if Arsenal had been able to play in the 1990 European Cup?" then I would have been similarly facetious.

Sorry. :o

[dor02]

On the "Greatest European Cup Winner thread," there have been people saying, "If Everton played in the 1986 CL, they would have won it." I just wanted to see how people would respond to this question. I'm not an Everton fan, just in case you're wondering.

I only typed a short question so it wasn't like I was taking an hour.

Just out of curiousity, are you like KopThat! who thinks Liverpool would have won the 1989 European Cup if they could have played? I'm not trying to sound like a smartass. :D

[dove]

The problem is with that question is we'll never know.

However you won't meet many blues who are'nt convivnced that we'd have lifted the big one that year,and let's face it we had every confidence that we could.
Back then we by far the best team in the country and arguably the best club side in europe,so the likes of juventus and barcelona would have held no fear,and judging by the quality of the final that year when a hardly top quality steau won it,why not the optimism?

'Get over it' our red neighbours like to cry at us,but it has'nt really proved that easy.Not when you finally climb to the top of the tree only to have yourself chucked back off because of the misdeamenours of others.And unlike then we had'nt had countless years of euro success to soften the blow,we'd only just started.

Its not just the fact that we missed out on the 86 european cup but its the fact we never had a chance to create our own dynasty over those years.whose to say we would'nt have added another one along the way,or maybe a uefa cup or two as well? Same as liverpool's uefa in 73 got the ball rolling,or juve's 84 cwc success leading on to greater glory,it could have been the same for us.
Its not as if we were one season wonders either,christ if psv and porto could win it,any one can.

Thanks to them I (and incidentally the likes of norwich,wimbledon and oxford united) never got the chance to see maradona,van basten,platini et all strutting there stuff at goodison on a manic european night.We never even got the chance to have a go at juve in what would have been a stonking super cup game that year.

And the arrogant bastards wonder why were bitter?

We'll never know if we would have won that year,but I know for sure what we lost.

[dove]

Arf ... no, that's not quite it. For a start, the "intensity" of the rivalry is hugely overstated, usually by blues. And for a second (and as an extension of the first point), holding a grudge against Everton would be a bit like hating the colour yellow. A pointless waste of effort and time, in other words.

Sorry. :o

Guess all that rabid celebrating by the players and the crowd at anfield the other month after you'd scraped a 2-1 was'nt relly intense after all the eh matt?

Good luck in the chase for that uefa cup spot tommorrow eh.

[Matt Clark]

On the "Greatest European Cup Winner thread," there have been people saying, "If Everton played in the 1986 CL, they would have won it." I just wanted to see how people would respond to this question. I'm not an Everton fan, just in case you're wondering.

I only typed a short question so it wasn't like I was taking an hour.

Just out of curiousity, are you like KopThat! who thinks Liverpool would have won the 1989 European Cup if they could have played? I'm not trying to sound like a smartass. :D

No one can say Everton would have won the 1986 European Cup. Or that they wouldn't. That's why I wasn't treating this thread seriously. Same goes for Liverpool in 1989. They were an awesome side, but then so were Milan at the time, for instance. It's impossible to say and therefore largely pointless.

[Matt Clark]

Guess all that rabid celebrating by the players and the crowd at anfield the other month after you'd scraped a 2-1 was'nt relly intense after all the eh matt?

Good luck in the chase for that uefa cup spot tommorrow eh.


:rolleyes:

Read. Then post. You owe it to yourself.

I didn't say there was no intensity. I said that the intensity that there is is routinely overstated, usually by Blues.

[dor02]

Matt Clark, if you can't treat a thread seriously, you should just ignore it.

People have made some of their on theories on other threads and this thread is a way for people to make honest thoughts on the one thread. What dove has done is an example.

[dove]

:rolleyes:

Read. Then post. You owe it to yourself.

I didn't say there was no intensity. I said that the intensity that there is is routinely overstated, usually by Blues.

:rolleyes:

Try going to a derby.Then post.You owe to yourself.

Either your stuck in a 'friendly rivals' time warp or you watch the game from the comfort of sky tv,either way you've somehow managed to miss the upturn in violent undercurrents over the last ten years.

And before you go on,it takes two to tango.

[Matt Clark]

The 2-1 the other month was, on a quick mental count, my 18th derby.

Your choice of the words "violent upturn" makes me compelled to use the following phrase:

I know you are, but what am I?

I'll discuss this in the Sandon, the Oaky or my local, the Albert on Lark Lane any time you wish.

[dove]

Well the first two boozers are absolute dives at the best of times,as well as being red pubs so that counts me out,whilst the alberts slightly bohemien atmosphere seemed to have been overran by all the scallies from park road deciding to booze up there,well it was the last time I went.

Anyway,thanks for the invite.

The the only violent upterm Ive ever personally experienced at a derby was when a heavily aggrevied schoolfriend of mine decided to curtail my celebrations by chinning me in the annie road when linekar slotted one down at the kop.

I can't help disagreeing with you about the one way intensity statement when I remember the barmby goal derby or when u came to goodison and gerrard twatted one in at the gwladys,or even the impromtu conga at villa park when we went 2 down v wimbledon.

But I just guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

Id invite you down to the blue house or the wimslow to discuss it furthur,but to be honest I think there a bit ropey too.

[Johnlong]

Everton are Everton...

No one cares about them ! :D

[dor02]

Who do you like more. Tim Cahill or Harry Kewell?

[Matt Clark]

Tough one. On the one hand, you have stumpy hack who's also a Blue. On the other hand you have an overpaid Aussie ladyboy.

I pass.

[dor02]

I like to have fun with this thread too.

Man Utd 86
Liverpool 87
Everton 87
Coventry 88
Everton 88
Wimbledon 89
Liverpool 89
Arsenal 90
Liverpool 90-91

In their respective competitions, they would get knocked out in the first round if they could have played in Europe. Steaua 86, Porto 87, PSV 88, Milan 89-90, Red Star 1991 in the European Cup and DK 86, Ajax 87, Mechelen 88, Barca 89 and Sampdoria 90 in the CWC were great. Those English teams wouldn't make a difference.

[Matt Clark]

Yeah ... the 1987 Liverpool side would have been no match for Porto ...

[dor02]

Yeah ... the 1987 Liverpool side would have been no match for Porto ...

I don't take your thoughts seriously. You're having fun so I'll have fun too.