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Melloblkmon
17 Oct 2002, 09:43 AM
I don't think I have to explain what I am talking about. As a USMNT fan goalkeeping is a highlight of our games. Keller and Friedel would have NEVER let this kind of goal in IMHO.

I want to know what the England Fans think about this latest goalkeeping debacle???

sinner78
17 Oct 2002, 10:07 AM
Never say never....
It could happen...
Seaman has always been solid in goal..
It can happen to any keeper IMHO..

Seaman is now about 40 years old..
time for retirement methinks..

superdave
17 Oct 2002, 02:00 PM
The US and England should work out a trade...we can spare a GK, and you guys can give us one of your superfluous center backs. Pope needs a partner.

soccerfan
17 Oct 2002, 02:38 PM
David Seaman is a joke, he always has, at least since I been watching him this past few years, he isn't bad, but please as England number one ?...I do not know what the coaching and fans saw in him, can't be his magical golkeeping, maybe it is his girlish looks , sure must be that ponytail, just a constant turn on to those watching

prk166
17 Oct 2002, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by Melloblkmon
I don't think I have to explain what I am talking about. As a USMNT fan goalkeeping is a highlight of our games. Keller and Friedel would have NEVER let this kind of goal in IMHO.

I want to know what the England Fans think about this latest goalkeeping debacle???

At this level, you can't allow for goals like this often. He's done it with Arsenal this season, he let it happen with Ronaldihno this summer. Sven should've given him a nice warm-fuzzy swan song in a friendly & brought in some fresh blood before the Euro 2004 qualifiers.

Dr. Wankler
17 Oct 2002, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by soccerfan
David Seaman is a joke,

he always has been,
at least since I been watching him
this past few years,

he isn't bad, but please
as England number one ?
...I do not know
what the coaches
and fans saw in him,
can't be his magical
goalkeeping, maybe it is
his girlish looks,
sure must be that ponytail,

just a constant turn on
to those watching

Helping you out here. This works much better as a poem.

Luther_Gabriel
17 Oct 2002, 02:46 PM
I've have always thought of Seaman as a good goaltender because of he has always been on winning teams, and I liked him because of his outrageous looks, but after letting in that Ronaldinho free kick and now this, with shakey goaltending in between, it's time for him to retire and spare himself any further embaressment. He has had a great career, there is no need for him to be remembered for his mistakes, but if he keeps playing he will be.

Ilhan Mansiz
17 Oct 2002, 02:58 PM
I never seen the guy hold a shut out,In fact one match he gave up the lead 2 or 3 times from easy shots on goal.I have always wondered myself why is he always in the nat squad he isn't even really that good.If this Englands best then don't even bother thinking about the WC,Think about getting better goalkeepers.

sinner78
17 Oct 2002, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by Ilhan Mansiz
I never seen the guy hold a shut out,In fact one match he gave up the lead 2 or 3 times from easy shots on goal.I have always wondered myself why is he always in the nat squad he isn't even really that good.If this Englands best then don't even bother thinking about the WC,Think about getting better goalkeepers.

didn;t you watch the world cup??
he had 3 clean sheets in the world cup against argentina ,denmark and nigeria..
He's been a good servant to the team.
He was a good keeper but now he is getting older and its time to step down.

Ilhan Mansiz
17 Oct 2002, 07:31 PM
I did watch the world cup but i didn't watch any of Englands games except against brazil which he did not get a clean sheet.I agree he "WAS" a good goalkeeper but not anymore at least not on a national level.I think England is a good national side but i think a new goalkeeper is a must.

Melloblkmon
18 Oct 2002, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by Ilhan Mansiz
I think England is a good national side but i think a new goalkeeper is a must.

I agree, but who takes his place

Nigel Martyn

David James

or
Richard Wright???

Comments Please..........

CrewToon
18 Oct 2002, 01:59 PM
I think Seaman would have already been toast except there has been no one who stepped up and demonstrated that he should be in the net.

ignatz
18 Oct 2002, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by Melloblkmon


I agree, but who takes his place

Nigel Martyn

David James

or
Richard Wright???

Comments Please..........

How about Tony Meola?

Melloblkmon
18 Oct 2002, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by ignatz


How about Tony Meola?

:p:D

Femfa
18 Oct 2002, 02:22 PM
DS reminds me of the old lady whose family sits around trying to decide if they should take away her liscence and car keys. How bad is bad? And who will drive her to the store now? Everybody's busy, and no one wants the job, so she keeps driving. Until a really bad accident happens.

DS, however, has the power himself to avert tragedy. Why not be remembered instead as the noble, workable goalie who endured many years and finally retired when his skills were fading instead of being forced out?

He's survived this far by doing a lot of canny guessing. In WC, he guessed horribly wrong.

Femfa
18 Oct 2002, 03:01 PM
Also, I vote for Nigel Martyn in goal.

Mainly because I'm already hoping that opposing team's fans sing XTC's "Making Plans for Nigel" as soon as he steps on the pitch.

Prenn
18 Oct 2002, 03:02 PM
Paul Robinson at Leeds
Chris Kirkland at Liverpool
Stuart Taylor at Arsenal

All great young keepers, the problem being that they're a bit too young. They need at a good few years of league play before they can really be considered for International duty.

So what does that leave us with?

David James
Richard Wright.

David James should be Englands Number 1 for a good few years.

Prenn
18 Oct 2002, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by Femfa
Also, I vote for Nigel Martyn in goal.

Mainly because I'm already hoping that opposing team's fans sing XTC's "Making Plans for Nigel" as soon as he steps on the pitch.

Nah, Martyn is a year younger than Seaman and a whole lot dodgier.

Clan
18 Oct 2002, 03:29 PM
I would like to see kirkland edge out Dudek and get playing time with the 'pool to see if he will live up to the expected hype.

Personally i think he will.
It's a waste to have him on the bench up there, perhaps he'll want to move on soon to get regular playing time?

Fergie to bid for him in the summer after another season of Bartez fumbles and clowning around?

ONE
18 Oct 2002, 03:39 PM
granted he's young, but they could do a lot worse than robinson...