View Full Version : Was Yesterday's Screw Up Seaman's Last?
lanman
18 Oct 2002, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by Clanblue
I would like to see kirkland edge out Dudek and get playing time with the 'pool to see if he will live up to the expected hype.
Can't see it happening any time soon, considering Liverpool have just given Dudek a nice pay rise and contract extension.
He didn't impress me greatly at Coventry. He looked good, but not as good as Robinson.
Originally posted by Prenn
Paul Robinson at Leeds
Chris Kirkland at Liverpool
Stuart Taylor at Arsenal
It's very unfortunate that probably the three best young 'keepers have all had limited opportunities at the top level - two because veteran England 'keepers have kept them out, one because a foreign international was brought in as well.
Imo, goalkeeper is the one position where the influx of foreign players is hurting opportunities for good young English prospects. A team only has one goalkeeper - obviously - and teams are going for the 'finished article' rather than giving an opportunity to a younger, less established player. Ten years ago I doubt a player like Kirkland would have been sitting on the bench rather than playing for some Premiership team or other.
MarioKempes
19 Oct 2002, 05:11 PM
Opponents have found Seaman's one glaring weakness...a weakness worsened with old age. This will be his last year with the English team.
crummy
19 Oct 2002, 07:37 PM
Seamans main weakness has always been his ability to be "accident prone"
He has been the "victim" of more flukes than any other keeper in history.
Part of the time some of these "flukes" have actually been flukes - other times these "flukes" have been down to poor goal keeping.
Seaman has NEVER been able to adjust his feet - he has NEVER been an athletic goalkeeper.
He has always relied on fantastic positional sense [which he still has] and his ability to stay virtually unbeatable in 1 v 1 situations.
But he is not only an un-athletic keeper - he is an OLD un-athletic keeper [in top level sporting terms!] and he is getting found out FAR too often.
I don't like the way he's being hounded - but he is putting himself in the firing line and he has to accept he's gonna get shot at.
ferrari77
19 Oct 2002, 07:51 PM
david james should get the reins with paul robinson backing him up till robinson is ready to take over like he did at leeds.
i feel robinson is going to be fantastic and he will be a mainstay on the england squad till kirkland actually gets playing time at liverpool. thats horrible that kirkland is wasting time on the reds bench when he should be getting even more playing experience. didnt dudek just sign a new contract.
oh ,please God, let Richard Wright have a fantastic season for Everton in order to get him back in the frame.
crummy
19 Oct 2002, 07:56 PM
Agree with the James/Robinson thing.
I happen to think that Kirkland is the best young keeper in England but Robinson is miles ahead of him now - simply because he has commanded first team football - though that can also work against him if he loses form or confidence.
Kirkland MUST leave Liverpool now it is clear that he will only ever be 2nd fiddle to Dudek.
He needs to get back to 1st team action to prove his worth if he is gonna even keep pace with the likes of Robinson.
He ain't going anywhere sitting on the Liverpool bench every week.
ferrari77
19 Oct 2002, 08:07 PM
i wonder if kirkland knew houllier was signing dudek when he signed for liverpool, they both signed on the same day, do you think dudek and kirkland did not know the other was being signed. that would suck.
crummy
19 Oct 2002, 08:21 PM
If Kirkland did know then he's a fool to himself.
He's out of the spotlight and it can only harm his career in the longterm.
His only hope, without moving, if is Dudek gets a bad injury [God forbid, wouldn't wish that on any player!] - because having just re-signed Dudek at reportedly £60,000 a week [around $90,000] then obviously they're gona play him when available.
I've got a sneaking suspicion that Kirkland may land up at Arsenal.
They're gonna be needing another keeper for next season and i'm not sure they see Taylor as ready yet.
They won't wanna pay big bucks - so Kirkland could be an attractive option ?
We'll see....