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aloisius
06 May 2005, 12:35 PM
...should be scraped. Sporting went through last night v Alkmaar on an away goal they scored in extra time. But Alkmar didn’t have 120 minutes to score away goals.

Joseba
06 May 2005, 12:42 PM
neither did sporting have 120 minutes playing on their own stadium with a crowd that would insult and shout at the opponents ears each time they would have a corner kick amongst other several stuff.

GatoFedorento
06 May 2005, 12:43 PM
...should be scraped. Sporting went through last night v Alkmaar on an away goal they scored in extra time. But Alkmar didn’t have 120 minutes to score away goals.

AZ played 120 minutes in his home field. Sporting only played 90.
Which team had the advantage? :rolleyes:

JuveleoRules
06 May 2005, 12:50 PM
...should be scraped. Sporting went through last night v Alkmaar on an away goal they scored in extra time. But Alkmar didn’t have 120 minutes to score away goals.

This is the dumbest post I have read in a while....

AZ had 90 minutes in Lisbon scored one goal....

Sporting had 90 minutes in Alkmaar scored one goal...

Both Teams had extra time...Sporting scored 1 goal...AZ scored 1 goal

AZ played the extra time at home......

Which team had the advantage?

You were saying.......

BocaFan
06 May 2005, 12:53 PM
AZ played 120 minutes in his home field. Sporting only played 90.
Which team had the advantage? :rolleyes:

I'd say Sporting. IF playing even away from home for only 30 minutes means getting a win, then the away team has the advantage.

laudrup
06 May 2005, 12:56 PM
...should be scraped. Sporting went through last night v Alkmaar on an away goal they scored in extra time. But Alkmar didn’t have 120 minutes to score away goals.

I don't know if I see the logic in that, since about 99.9% of players, coaches and fans have always seen playing the second leg at home as an advantage (and if you do some research, you'll find out that a significant amount of those that play the second game at home actually advance the round - way over 50%). That advantage surely compensates for away goals in overtime.

In any case, that is why there are draws that decide the order of the games. I've never seen a single player complain about away goals in extra time. They all seem to accept the luck of the draw. So should we.

obie
06 May 2005, 01:47 PM
Again, as I said in the AZ - Sporting thread, I had no rooting interest in that game at all either way. But IMO the away-goals rule should count for the first 180 minutes and not any further. The advantage that an away team gets in the extra 30 knowing that a single goal effectively ends the match is far greater than the advantage of playing the 2nd leg at home.

FabFiveFigo
06 May 2005, 01:54 PM
Again, as I said in the AZ - Sporting thread, I had no rooting interest in that game at all either way. But IMO the away-goals rule should count for the first 180 minutes and not any further. The advantage that an away team gets in the extra 30 knowing that a single goal effectively ends the match is far greater than the advantage of playing the 2nd leg at home.
I would tend to agree with this. Since Sporting scored a goal, that would mean that AZ would have needed 2 in the same amount of time. I think it's a huge stretch to say that playing on your home field for 30 minutes of extra time equates to a 2 goals to 1 advantage.

laudrup
06 May 2005, 06:51 PM
I would tend to agree with this. Since Sporting scored a goal, that would mean that AZ would have needed 2 in the same amount of time. I think it's a huge stretch to say that playing on your home field for 30 minutes of extra time equates to a 2 goals to 1 advantage.

I still haven't heard of anyone involved bitching about this, so the players and coaches themselves seem to think it's pretty fair. And every single one of them would ALWAYS take the 2nd leg of a knockout round at home.

I can see how it might seem unfair to some fans, but it's the sport that makes the fans and not the other way round.

BSjanitor
07 May 2005, 06:21 AM
If the away team scores a goal in Extra Time and the home team has to score TWICE in order to go through. That means the away team can bunker up in defense for the rest of extra time.

The rule is gone starting next season.

Stats for this CL's playoffs: 50% of playoffs won by teams with home advantage (2nd leg)

stats for this UEFA Cup: 67% (20 out of 30) playoffs won by teams with home advantage.

Of course, home advantage is sometimes decided by group position, which means the better teams *usually* get home advantage in the first round after the group stage.