soccer rule ideas

[lamrof]

What do you guys/gals think.

Given Team A is the defending team and Team B is the attacking team.

1. team A cannot have more than 1 player in its field than team B has in team A’s field.
Pros- promotes attacking soccer.
Cons- hard to enforce, by teams and refs. May leave defending team in a disadvantage. Too tactical. May force players to count who is where, etc., promotes boring man to man marking assignments.
Note- don’t know about this one. Too complicated.

2. Team A cannot have more than 1 player in its penality box than team B has in Team A’s penality box.
Pros- promotes scoring chances.
Cons- hard to enforce.

3. No off side if the ball is passed behind the half line.
Pros- promotes goal-scoring chances.
Cons- may encourage teams to keep the ball in the center area.

4. No off side if the ball is passed from within the penalty box of the defending team A.
Pros- promotes attacking soccer. Promotes scoring chances.
Cons- Goalmouth will be swarmed. Goalie will be stifled. Promotes defending team pack penalty box. (rule #2 above fights against this one.)

5. From the instance a player is signaled by the ref to get out of the filed when replaced, that player will have 5 seconds to leave the field.
Note- fights against stupid time wasting.
Cons- none.

I really like 3,4 and 5. Not sure 1 and 2.

[sidefootsitter]

I'd like #3, if the pitch was divided into 3 zones like a hockey rink.

[lamrof]

I'd like #3, if the pitch was divided into 3 zones like a hockey rink.
Why is this important?

[lamrof]

What do you guys/gals think.

Given Team A is the defending team and Team B is the attacking team.

1. team A cannot have more than 1 player in its field than team B has in team A’s field.
Pros- promotes attacking soccer.
Cons- hard to enforce, by teams and refs. May leave defending team in a disadvantage. Too tactical. May force players to count who is where, etc., promotes boring man to man marking assignments.
Note- don’t know about this one. Too complicated.

2. Team A cannot have more than 1 player in its penality box than team B has in Team A’s penality box.
Pros- promotes scoring chances.
Cons- hard to enforce.

3. No off side if the ball is passed behind the half line.
Pros- promotes goal-scoring chances.
Cons- may encourage teams to keep the ball in the center area.

4. No off side if the ball is passed from within the penalty box of the defending team A.
Pros- promotes attacking soccer. Promotes scoring chances.
Cons- Goalmouth will be swarmed. Goalie will be stifled. Promotes defending team pack penalty box. (rule #2 above fights against this one.)

5. From the instance a player is signaled by the ref to get out of the filed when replaced, that player will have 5 seconds to leave the field.
Note- fights against stupid time wasting.
Cons- none.

I really like 3,4 and 5. Not sure 1 and 2.

Another idea is to try 3 and 4 in extra time games.

[sidefootsitter]

Why is this important? Then you'd still have to stay onside on 1/3 of the field and not cheat the entire length of the pitch.

[lamrof]

Then you'd still have to stay onside on 1/3 of the field and not cheat the entire length of the pitch.

The idea is to open up the field and promote an exciting 1 on 1 duel. and if you add "no offiside if ball is passed within the defending team box" the scoring chances will increase. However, you also want to see elegant ball possession games so you put a curb on the above by enforcing the current rule when ball is played within the defending team field but outside the box. In addition defending teams will try prevent the ball enter the box to start with so they are forced to defend in outside the box. This will open up the penalty box for some serious excitment and goal scoring.

[King Rooney]

personally i think the game is good as it is, goal line technology is the only rule that should be enforced

[Walter3000]

Why do we need rules changes? On top of that, these rules just look to make the game more mechanical. Leave the Beautiful Game alone.

[lamrof]

Why do we need rules changes? On top of that, these rules just look to make the game more mechanical. Leave the Beautiful Game alone.

Why is it we have the offside rule to start with? If you answer that, then tell me why is it we have the offside rule when ball is passed within the box.

[King Rooney]

the offside rule is perfectly fair, if u get rid of it ion a sense it could end up being more defensive, deep defending. every game would be like watching how england play vs big teams and for a neutral i'm sure that is agonising

[lamrof]

the offside rule is perfectly fair, if u get rid of it ion a sense it could end up being more defensive, deep defending. every game would be like watching how england play vs big teams and for a neutral i'm sure that is agonising

"deep defending” Exactly my point. You want perferal defending outside the box, more open penalty box, a mad dash towards it, mad defending around it, not packing it like Chelsea did on their first game against Barce. Also teams have to think that when ball enters the penalty box all hell breaks loose. In addition teams will be encouraged to attack and keep the ball in the opponents field rather than be defensive. I have no idea why the offside rule applies in the penalty box if we want exciting, attacking soccer.

[Walter3000]

"deep defending” Exactly my point. You want perferal defending outside the box, more open penalty box, a mad dash towards it, mad defending around it, not packing it like Chelsea did on their first game against Barce. Also teams have to think that when ball enters the penalty box all hell breaks loose. In addition teams will be encouraged to attack and keep the ball in the opponents field rather than be defensive. I have no idea why the offside rule applies in the penalty box if we want exciting, attacking soccer.

plenty of soccer fans find the game extremely exciting and entertaining as is....not a lot of people think of the beautiful game as 5-4 or 6-5 scorelines. Its a game of creativity, skill, and anticipation, its not run and gun score every 10 minutes...if you want that, theres the NFL or NBA.

[argentine soccer fan]

I have no idea why the offside rule applies in the penalty box if we want exciting, attacking soccer.

First, because the rules of the game should be kept simple and easy to call. And second, because changing the offside rule inside the penalty box is not going to make the game more exciting.

Right now, the game has plenty of excitement whenever an attacking player gets the ball inside the penalty area. If the rule is changed as you propose, it will encourage long crosses to the area. You can have a tall player flick the ball forward and everybody dash forward to try to catch a rebound. Defenders will react by packing the area and guarding the posts, as they do for corner kicks.

'All hell breaking loose' inside the penalty area is not my idea of good football. I'd rather see fewer goals, but well manufactured.

[lamrof]

plenty of soccer fans find the game extremely exciting and entertaining as is....not a lot of people think of the beautiful game as 5-4 or 6-5 scorelines. Its a game of creativity, skill, and anticipation, its not run and gun score every 10 minutes...if you want that, theres the NFL or NBA.

Don't get me wrong I am a soccer fan and really enjoy "Brazilian", "Nigerian" type of style. My vision is not to see more goals, (although hard fought high scoring matches are always more exciting than those which are 0-0, 1-1, etc.)
But my point is the game will be exciting even more if the field is opened up for flair, ball control, passing, dribbling and of course scoring. You assume I am one of those Americans who complained Soccer is not like Basketball or (American football) to the contrary I enjoy soccer played, they right way, The "Brazilian way" from my standpoint.
I see too many boring defensive games, congested in the penalty area. A striker in the penalty area cannot hold to the ball more than a second these days, and then either pass it out, or loose it.

At least try some improvement/chane in some lower devisions. That is all I am saying.

[lamrof]

First, because the rules of the game should be kept simple and easy to call. And second, because changing the offside rule inside the penalty box is not going to make the game more exciting.

I agree on your first point. You've got to explain why on your second point.

[argentine soccer fan]

I agree on your first point. You've got to explain why on your second point.

I was thinking the exact same thing, right after I posted. I was editing and ammending my post just as you were replying. Here is the final version of my last post:



First, because the rules of the game should be kept simple and easy to call. And second, because changing the offside rule inside the penalty box is not going to make the game more exciting.

Right now, the game has plenty of excitement whenever an attacking player gets the ball inside the penalty area. If the rule is changed as you propose, it will encourage long crosses to the area. You can have a tall player flick the ball forward and everybody dash forward to try to catch a rebound. Defenders will react by packing the area and guarding the posts, as they do for corner kicks.

'All hell breaking loose' inside the penalty area is not my idea of good football. I'd rather see fewer goals, but well manufactured.

[Walter3000]

Don't get me wrong I am a soccer fan and really enjoy "Brazilian", "Nigerian" type of style. My vision is not to see more goals, (although hard fought high scoring matches are always more exciting than those which are 0-0, 1-1, etc.)
But my point is the game will be exciting even more if the field is opened up for flair, ball control, passing, dribbling and of course scoring. You assume I am one of those Americans who complained Soccer is not like Basketball or (American football) to the contrary I enjoy soccer played, they right way, The "Brazilian way" from my standpoint.
I see too many boring defensive games, congested in the penalty area. A striker in the penalty area cannot hold to the ball more than a second these days, and then either pass it out, or loose it.

At least try some improvement/chane in some lower devisions. That is all I am saying.


Theres no "RIGHT WAY" to play the game. Thats fools logic, one of the funnest parts of the game is teams with different styles matching up. A striker shouldnt be able to hold the ball in the box...this isnt youth league soccer. Why should we penalize the defense?

[lamrof]

First, because the rules of the game should be kept simple and easy to call. And second, because changing the offside rule inside the penalty box is not going to make the game more exciting.

Right now, the game has plenty of excitement whenever an attacking player gets the ball inside the penalty area. If the rule is changed as you propose, it will encourage long crosses to the area. You can have a tall player flick the ball forward and everybody dash forward to try to catch a rebound. Defenders will react by packing the area and guarding the posts, as they do for corner kicks.

'All hell breaking loose' inside the penalty area is not my idea of good football. I'd rather see fewer goals, but well manufactured.


"Right now, the game has plenty of excitement whenever an attacking player gets the ball inside the penalty area. If the rule is changed as you propose, it will encourage long crosses to the area. You can have a tall player flick the ball forward and everybody dash forward to try to catch a rebound. Defenders will react by packing the area and guarding the posts, as they do for corner kicks."

This is correct. I thought about this. Teams will swarm the goalmouth. You have to rememebr one point though. Defending teams will try to avoid the ball enter the penalty box to start with so you see more mid-field defending. This will open up the penality area. There will be more areas to protect for defending teams that the goal. So tactically it will be challenging but technical players can shine.

[lamrof]

Theres no "RIGHT WAY" to play the game. Thats fools logic, one of the funnest parts of the game is teams with different styles matching up. A striker shouldnt be able to hold the ball in the box...this isnt youth league soccer. Why should we penalize the defense?

I thought of this exact truth in your statement. That is why I also added "from my view point"

[lamrof]

Theres no "RIGHT WAY" to play the game. Thats fools logic, one of the funnest parts of the game is teams with different styles matching up. A striker shouldnt be able to hold the ball in the box...this isnt youth league soccer. Why should we penalize the defense?

"Why should we penalize the defense? " I don't think this will penalize the defense. It will take the unfair advantage away.