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southamerican1984
05 May 2005, 02:42 AM
i think that south american qualifiers are the most difficul on the world, as we know this region has the best soccer on the world, each national team has very important men, plus this region has 9 world cup, and infinite juvenule world cups, i think that south american qualifiers are broadcasted on all the world.

now, decide which are the eassiest qualifiers, that's a little hard, i think that conkakakaf, asia and oceania qualifiers are the eassiest on the world, i just laugh when mexicans or koreans presume that their national team qualified to the world cup.

european's qualifiers are also very eassy, there are a lot of tiny islands in europe, once chilavert said " if spain plays south american qualifiers, they would never qualify to the world cup, in south america there is not a luxemburg or a san marino, andorra, malta",

so this is the ranking from the most difficult qualifiers to the eassiest

SOUTH AMERICANS QUALIFIERS
EUROPEANS
AFRICANS

NOW I THINK THAT THERE'S A TIE BETWEEN ASIA, CONKAKAF AND OCEANIA, VERY EASSY THOSE QUALIFIERS, I WONDER IF ANY SOUTH AMERICAN WOULD WATCH ANY CONKAKAF'S QUALIFIER MATCH? OR WHAT ABOUT AN ASIAN'S QUALIFIER MATCH? OR WATCH AUSTRALIA VS TAHITI???????

I WOULD LOVE IF EACH SOUTH AMERICAN NATIONAL TEAM PLAYS ITS QUALIFIERS IN A DIFFERENT CONTINENT, FOR EXAMPLE ARGENTINE PLAYING ITS QUALIFIERS IN EUROPE, CHILE IN ASIA, COLOMBIA IN CONKAKAF, AND SO ON, IN THIS WAY ALL SOUTH AMERICA QUALIFIES TO THE WORLD CUP

southamerican1984
05 May 2005, 02:43 AM
carlos alberto parreira said " south american qualifiers are a thousand times more difficult than a world cup"

Hrvat
05 May 2005, 03:59 AM
They probably are the most difficult, but you have four teams going through directly, plus one plays Australia (which means they also go through directly :D ), and that's pretty easy concidering how much countries are there in South America. More good teams are left out of the WC in European or African qualifiers than in South American.

The Potter
05 May 2005, 04:11 AM
They probably are the most difficult, but you have four teams going through directly, plus one plays Australia (which means they also go through directly :D ), and that's pretty easy concidering how much countries are there in South America. More good teams are left out of the WC in European or African qualifiers than in South American.


Also outside of the big two who were the last S.A team to do well in a W.C.So it's easily the UEFA's imo

Chewmylegoff
05 May 2005, 05:12 AM
carlos alberto parreira said " south american qualifiers are a thousand times more difficult than a world cup"

so what. pele said that nicky butt was the best player at the 2002 world cup, and that was a load of rubbish too.

"most difficult" can only mean one thing - comparatively the most difficult group to qualify from. with 5 qualification slots (the playoff v australia is a formality as they're rubbish) you're looking at 50% of the south american group qualifying for the world cup.

by contrast in UEFA you have only 13 of 46 teams qualifying, and 3 of those have to play off. granted a lot of the teams are rubbish - but there's almost always a group of death with three decent sides in it, one of whom cannot qualify.

for instance i'd fancy czech republic and holland to qualify from the south american group and romania to have a decent chance, but at least one of these three will not be in the next world cup, likewise you could say that all of turkey, denmark, greece and ukraine would have have a shot at qualifying from the south american group, but only two at maximum can qualify.

lastly the idea that spain would never qualify for the world cup in the south american group is ridiculous - of the three available slots after Brazil and Argentian have qualified all Spain have to do is get more points than Peru, Venezuela, Bolivia (a foregone conclusion) and then finish about two of Ecuador, Chile, Uruguay, Colombia and Paraguay. Now if you don't think Spain could outqualify all of those teams, let alone three of them, then you're an idiot.

southamerican1984
05 May 2005, 08:36 AM
chew, i didn't say that, the one who said that was the ex-goal keeper paraguayan jose luis chilavert, he said that about spain

ShaRule
05 May 2005, 09:00 AM
chew, i didn't say that, the one who said that was the ex-goal keeper paraguayan jose luis chilavert, he said that about spain

lol you mean that fatty goalkeeper hahaha give me a brake!

ShaRule
05 May 2005, 09:04 AM
I don't think the asian wcq is that easy cuz in the first leg you have to be 1st to qualify to the 2nd wcq leg. then it becomes easy with the first 2 dirlectly going to the WC and the 3th who must play 2 games with the other nr 3 and then goin to play the nr 4 from concakaf or something

Chewmylegoff
05 May 2005, 09:09 AM
chew, i didn't say that, the one who said that was the ex-goal keeper paraguayan jose luis chilavert, he said that about spain

QED chilavert is an idiot.

i dont think there's any contraversy there.

Xevor
05 May 2005, 09:52 AM
South American qualification is most difficult because the teams there are equal to each other except for Brazil and Argentina.
The easiest is without any doubt Oceania. They have only one good team which is Australia. New Zealand is also good but not as good as Australia. All the other teams in Oceania need to improve because they are not good enough.
Qualifying in Africa is also very difficult because only the winner of the group will go to the WC and some groups have three strong teams like: Cameroon, Egypt and Ivorycoast.
For teams like Iran, Japan and South Korea it is now easier to qualify but the other teams are improving very fast. Remember how difficult Japan had with Oman, Iran with Jordan and South Korea with Lebanon. And China with Kuwait? Kuwait defeated China and they qualified instead of China who was the runner-up of the last edition of the Asian Cup.

Chewmylegoff
05 May 2005, 09:55 AM
South American qualification is most difficult because the teams there are equal to each other except for Brazil and Argentina.
The easiest is without any doubt Oceania. They have only one good team which is Australia. New Zealand is also good but not as good as Australia. All the other teams in Oceania need to improve because they are not good enough.
Qualifying in Africa is also very difficult because only the winner of the group will go to the WC and some groups have three strong teams like: Cameroon, Egypt and Ivorycoast.
For teams like Iran, Japan and South Korea it is now easier to qualify but the other teams are improving very fast. Remember how difficult Japan had with Oman, Iran with Jordan and South Korea with Lebanon. And China with Kuwait? Kuwait defeated China and they qualified instead of China who was the runner-up of the last edition of the Asian Cup.

so? plenty of the groups in UEFA qualifying have two or three teams which are equal to each other competing for the second spot and the chance of a playoff.

and if south america is the hardest, the how can oceania be the easiest since they have to play-off against the fifth placed south american team in order to qualify?

EvanJ
05 May 2005, 10:02 AM
by contrast in UEFA you have only 13 of 46 teams qualifying...

51 UEFA countries are participating in qualifying, not 46.

Chewmylegoff
05 May 2005, 10:05 AM
51 UEFA countries are participating in qualifying, not 46.

fascinating.

The Potter
05 May 2005, 10:07 AM
fascinating.


Do you know which ones you missed.

Chewmylegoff
05 May 2005, 10:09 AM
Do you know which ones you missed.

france, holland, portugal, czech republic and armenia.

Xevor
05 May 2005, 10:56 AM
so? plenty of the groups in UEFA qualifying have two or three teams which are equal to each other competing for the second spot and the chance of a playoff.

and if south america is the hardest, the how can oceania be the easiest since they have to play-off against the fifth placed south american team in order to qualify?

True, I forgot that Oceanie has only 0,5 spot.

king_saladin
05 May 2005, 11:20 AM
You could say "well *this country* would have a more difficult time in *this conference*", but its too hypothetical. If said country resided in that geographical area, surely the talent level and styles of play would match up more.

Piratikos_GK
05 May 2005, 07:57 PM
i think that south american qualifiers are the most difficul on the world, as we know this region has the best soccer on the world, each national team has very important men, plus this region has 9 world cup, and infinite juvenule world cups, i think that south american qualifiers are broadcasted on all the world.

now, decide which are the eassiest qualifiers, that's a little hard, i think that conkakakaf, asia and oceania qualifiers are the eassiest on the world, i just laugh when mexicans or koreans presume that their national team qualified to the world cup.

european's qualifiers are also very eassy, there are a lot of tiny islands in europe, once chilavert said " if spain plays south american qualifiers, they would never qualify to the world cup, in south america there is not a luxemburg or a san marino, andorra, malta",

so this is the ranking from the most difficult qualifiers to the eassiest

SOUTH AMERICANS QUALIFIERS
EUROPEANS
AFRICANS

NOW I THINK THAT THERE'S A TIE BETWEEN ASIA, CONKAKAF AND OCEANIA, VERY EASSY THOSE QUALIFIERS, I WONDER IF ANY SOUTH AMERICAN WOULD WATCH ANY CONKAKAF'S QUALIFIER MATCH? OR WHAT ABOUT AN ASIAN'S QUALIFIER MATCH? OR WATCH AUSTRALIA VS TAHITI???????

I WOULD LOVE IF EACH SOUTH AMERICAN NATIONAL TEAM PLAYS ITS QUALIFIERS IN A DIFFERENT CONTINENT, FOR EXAMPLE ARGENTINE PLAYING ITS QUALIFIERS IN EUROPE, CHILE IN ASIA, COLOMBIA IN CONKAKAF, AND SO ON, IN THIS WAY ALL SOUTH AMERICA QUALIFIES TO THE WORLD CUP Look, all qualifiers are difficult, but to say that the European qualification is 'easy' is just asinine. I'm judging by your handle that you're partial to S. American teams, and that's fine. I'm of European decent, so I'm partial to Europe. We can ramble on and on about who we like but let's be realistic for a moment. One thing is certain, and that's Argentina and Brazil will always qualify for the WC unless some major disaster happens. Then it's pretty much a toss-up for the last 3 spots. Either way, 50% of the teams qualify (we don't need to address the 5th place team playing Oceania). In Europe, you have 51 countries battling for 13 spots. That's just above 25%. Quite a large discrepancy between 25% and 50%. Sure, there are some countries in Europe like Andorra, Azerbazhan, Armenia, Kazakstan, etc. that pose no challenge at the moment, but you never know. Who ever thought that Greece (had never won a game in a major tournament and had only qualified twice prior) would have taken the EuroCup, let alone win a game? Latvia also didn't play too badly, considering they had never qualified prior to 2004 either. At least in Europe, you have a little bit of parody. There are so many good teams in Europe, some of them step up every few years, and some of them do at other times. Heck, in Europe, you even have top teams not qualify because the competition is so good. Holland didn't qualify in '02. No Portugal in '98, no England in '94. Denmark, who has qualified for almost every tournament the last decade and a half, won't be in Germany next year. France might not be in Germany in '06 either. The parody alone makes the Eurozone one of the most difficult to qualify. Wait, I have an idea. Why don't they make the European zone like the S. American zone. Put all 51 teams in one group, and the top 13 will qualify! Only then, will it be easy.

Sr. Califas
05 May 2005, 08:31 PM
What is so hard about qualifing in South America? If you are Brazi, Argentina, Paraguay and Uruguay it is almost automatic. If you are Columbia you just have to prevent one of those scrubs from upsetting you for the 5th spot.

southamerican1984
05 May 2005, 09:59 PM
Piratikos, You're Right In Almost Everything

And Srkalifas, Obviously You Have Never Seen South American Qualifiers, Look, Last Time Brazil Almost Didn't Qualify, This Time Uruguay Is Suffering A Lot