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triplesevn
30 Apr 2005, 06:19 PM
I have a passion for stadiums & architecture like no other. So you would think that I could not wait for the new Emirates Stadium in Ashburton Grove and Wembley to open it's doors to the masses of Arsenal fans awaiting to catch a glimpse of their team. I am actually a Manchester United fan/supporter and love my "theater of dreams". Or do I really love it? But when it comes to stadiums, I don't play team favorite.

I have traveled world wide and visited as many stadiums as possible. In my country, the USA, I have visited nearly every big city stadium out there. From Hockey and Football to Baseball and Soccer. I have grown to dislike many of the stadiums in the US. Big beautiful houses they are, fan friendly they are not. Or at least for the 20 thousand plus that can't get the lower bowl seats.

Over the past several years, I have grown to love European stadiums. The atmosphere has been top notch but the stadiums are what they are, stadiums to watch an match or event. They allow you to be entertained by the team or event for what you paid for. You have the feel your apart of it! But that love is soon fading as time goes by and new multi use, giant 60,000+ stadiums pop up.

The day Highburry closes it's doors, will be one of the saddest days for me. As one of the remaining "big team" older stadiums left in England, will continue to lose them for every team. What I'm getting at is, too large, is not so great! Highburry to me, was rated my number one stadium next to Notre Dame's Stadium in South Bend, Indiana. The crowed is on top of the event. Ask yourself this question. What is the use of paying $30 plus and up to sit so high up you need binoculars to watch the game? In all of the stadiums I have been to, there's only one large seater that comes to mind in which you still felt the presence of the game. University of Michigan. It's actually the largest stadium in the US and one of the largest in the entire world. Yet, it's design keeps you in the game no matter where you sit. The Rose Bowl in LA is very smiliar to Michigan as well but not quite.

In 2002, I attended WC Korea/Japan. I had great seats for a couple of matches as I expected since I paid top price for them. Then, I got "nose bleeder" seats in two games in which again, I paid the top price for the tickets. I was so upset, that I refused to watch the game. After a bit, my friend talked me into watching and just give my support to the Team. I remember asking, how can I do that if we are sitting 8 rows from the top and screaming at the top of my "deep" voice, only the usher/guard in our area can hear me! My camera, which I used a 200mm telephoto and Aspherical lens could barely zoom in enough to actually take a picture of a goal mount cross little alone an upclose pic of a player.
Well, this was FIFA's great idea of screwing people out of money of course. I paid for the Cat 1 seats. But FIFA regards anything with in the parameters of the field length wise, lower or "upper" decks to be priced as Cat 1. How they can do this? Well, they're FIFA! I sat in the corner of the stadium, 8 rows from the top!

It appears the architecture monsters here in the US have made the crossing of Oceans, world wide. With Arsenals new stadium, the atmosphere that was sought out world wide will be gone. Sure, the chanting will go on but that feel. That special feel you could only get from sitting atop the field will no longer be there. That cannot be replaced!

I can't wait to visit both the new Stadiums in London. Emirates and Wembley but I can wait forever to watch a game there! Wembley will be one of the worse stadiums in terms of fan friendly as far as I'm concerned. I can see already the average fan will sit so far away from the game, your better off watching it from home or if you still want to pay your money just to be there, then sit in one of the restaurants and watch it on TV!

Luckily for now, the US will assume the role in the sport of Soccer/Football for having excellent fan friendly stadiums. With the new HDC in LA, Columbus, and several of the newer stadiums being built and future ones down the road, all will need is a fan base to fill up those places and have the same energy level as in Europe. With out the flares and fights of course. But at least when you pay your $50 bucks, your getting what you pay for even if the game is rubbish! Cause you can smell the grass. Read the names and numbers on the back of a players jersey. Actually see the ball and it's true height when kicked up in the air.

I hope to see at least one more match at the old Highburry before it's too late. Because no other stadium on Earth can match it's presence as apart of the game.

schoppi
03 May 2005, 07:52 AM
I think this stadium is just perfect to keep everybody in the game. Very near distance to the pitch (closest possible due to FIFA regulations) just like Highburry.
http://img49.echo.cx/img49/5465/81zm.th.jpg (http://img49.echo.cx/my.php?image=81zm.jpg) http://img49.echo.cx/img49/8618/138bm.th.jpg (http://img49.echo.cx/my.php?image=138bm.jpg) http://img49.echo.cx/img49/5906/20vd.th.jpg (http://img49.echo.cx/my.php?image=20vd.jpg)

LordR
03 May 2005, 08:38 AM
I think this stadium is just perfect to keep everybody in the game. Very near distance to the pitch (closest possible due to FIFA regulations) just like Highburry.
http://img49.echo.cx/img49/5465/81zm.th.jpg (http://img49.echo.cx/my.php?image=81zm.jpg) http://img49.echo.cx/img49/8618/138bm.th.jpg (http://img49.echo.cx/my.php?image=138bm.jpg) http://img49.echo.cx/img49/5906/20vd.th.jpg (http://img49.echo.cx/my.php?image=20vd.jpg)
Nice pictures, but it doesn't look as close as e.g Anfield Rd. or Stamford Bridge. There the distance is maybe 2 meters, here it looks more like 5-6 meters.

mad theory
03 May 2005, 09:48 AM
I have a passion for stadiums & architecture like no other. So you would think that I could not wait for the new Emirates Stadium in Ashburton Grove and Wembley to open it's doors to the masses of Arsenal fans awaiting to catch a glimpse of their team. I am actually a Manchester United fan/supporter and love my "theater of dreams". Or do I really love it? But when it comes to stadiums, I don't play team favorite.

I have traveled world wide and visited as many stadiums as possible. In my country, the USA, I have visited nearly every big city stadium out there. From Hockey and Football to Baseball and Soccer. I have grown to dislike many of the stadiums in the US. Big beautiful houses they are, fan friendly they are not. Or at least for the 20 thousand plus that can't get the lower bowl seats.

Over the past several years, I have grown to love European stadiums. The atmosphere has been top notch but the stadiums are what they are, stadiums to watch an match or event. They allow you to be entertained by the team or event for what you paid for. You have the feel your apart of it! But that love is soon fading as time goes by and new multi use, giant 60,000+ stadiums pop up.

The day Highburry closes it's doors, will be one of the saddest days for me. As one of the remaining "big team" older stadiums left in England, will continue to lose them for every team. What I'm getting at is, too large, is not so great! Highburry to me, was rated my number one stadium next to Notre Dame's Stadium in South Bend, Indiana. The crowed is on top of the event. Ask yourself this question. What is the use of paying $30 plus and up to sit so high up you need binoculars to watch the game? In all of the stadiums I have been to, there's only one large seater that comes to mind in which you still felt the presence of the game. University of Michigan. It's actually the largest stadium in the US and one of the largest in the entire world. Yet, it's design keeps you in the game no matter where you sit. The Rose Bowl in LA is very smiliar to Michigan as well but not quite.

In 2002, I attended WC Korea/Japan. I had great seats for a couple of matches as I expected since I paid top price for them. Then, I got "nose bleeder" seats in two games in which again, I paid the top price for the tickets. I was so upset, that I refused to watch the game. After a bit, my friend talked me into watching and just give my support to the Team. I remember asking, how can I do that if we are sitting 8 rows from the top and screaming at the top of my "deep" voice, only the usher/guard in our area can hear me! My camera, which I used a 200mm telephoto and Aspherical lens could barely zoom in enough to actually take a picture of a goal mount cross little alone an upclose pic of a player.
Well, this was FIFA's great idea of screwing people out of money of course. I paid for the Cat 1 seats. But FIFA regards anything with in the parameters of the field length wise, lower or "upper" decks to be priced as Cat 1. How they can do this? Well, they're FIFA! I sat in the corner of the stadium, 8 rows from the top!

It appears the architecture monsters here in the US have made the crossing of Oceans, world wide. With Arsenals new stadium, the atmosphere that was sought out world wide will be gone. Sure, the chanting will go on but that feel. That special feel you could only get from sitting atop the field will no longer be there. That cannot be replaced!

I can't wait to visit both the new Stadiums in London. Emirates and Wembley but I can wait forever to watch a game there! Wembley will be one of the worse stadiums in terms of fan friendly as far as I'm concerned. I can see already the average fan will sit so far away from the game, your better off watching it from home or if you still want to pay your money just to be there, then sit in one of the restaurants and watch it on TV!

Luckily for now, the US will assume the role in the sport of Soccer/Football for having excellent fan friendly stadiums. With the new HDC in LA, Columbus, and several of the newer stadiums being built and future ones down the road, all will need is a fan base to fill up those places and have the same energy level as in Europe. With out the flares and fights of course. But at least when you pay your $50 bucks, your getting what you pay for even if the game is rubbish! Cause you can smell the grass. Read the names and numbers on the back of a players jersey. Actually see the ball and it's true height when kicked up in the air.

I hope to see at least one more match at the old Highburry before it's too late. Because no other stadium on Earth can match it's presence as apart of the game.

such a beautiful post, which almost made my cry.. :o

but i agree highbury is just awesome to visit, and it'll be a truly sad day when we play our last game there.

musicl
03 May 2005, 10:08 AM
Good post triplesevn.

If you want to visit the best in the world just go down the road about 2 minutes from Highbury.......WHITE HART LANE.

Colin Bell the King
03 May 2005, 11:28 AM
I'm sorry but that away end at Highbury is a dump.

Tear it down. Wont be before time too.

AFCA
03 May 2005, 11:48 AM
Good post triplesevn.

If you want to visit the best in the world just go down the road about 2 minutes from Highbury.......WHITE HART LANE.

White Hart lane isn't quite as cosy and stylish as Higbury is, from an esthetic point of view at least, IMO.

schoppi
03 May 2005, 02:11 PM
Nice pictures, but it doesn't look as close as e.g Anfield Rd. or Stamford Bridge. There the distance is maybe 2 meters, here it looks more like 5-6 meters.Yes, these stadiums are nearer to the pitch, but as I said the distance in Allianz Arena is the nearest possible due to Fifa regulations.

I´ve also heard that already build stadiums (like Westphalenstadion) even have to change the distance due to security. I am not sure if these informations are right but that would definetly hit Highburry and your mentioned stadia.

yossarian
03 May 2005, 02:12 PM
White Hart lane isn't quite as cosy and stylish as Higbury is, from an esthetic point of view at least, IMO.

I wholeheartedly agree.
;)

jameseyla
03 May 2005, 03:14 PM
whenever I see matches from England, fans at Fulham appear to be right on the players.

Spurs74
17 May 2005, 01:01 PM
whenever I see matches from England, fans at Fulham appear to be right on the players.


Higbury Gone. Too sad of a thing to happen. lm not an Gunner fan ,but l know aesthetic class when l see it. Although the North and Clock Ends are memories, Still it had an ambience that most of the English grounds seem to have disappeared.

Spurs74
17 May 2005, 01:04 PM
Good post triplesevn.

If you want to visit the best in the world just go down the road about 2 minutes from Highbury.......WHITE HART LANE.


Maybe so, but if the old Archibald Leitch stand or the old main stand hadnt been taken down. I'd be ok with White Hart Lane as it is today, but l just cant cope for some reason.

Spurs74
17 May 2005, 01:10 PM
White Hart lane isn't quite as cosy and stylish as Higbury is, from an esthetic point of view at least, IMO.


Say,

What did you think, or what was going through your mind when Ajax said goodbye to the DeMeer Stadion?

l was fascinated to read that in their glory days of the 1970's the big teams in Europe got classed by a side from a little 10/15,000 cozy park.

Of course, lm aware they had used the Olympistadion for those cup ties that would bring a bigger gate!!! but your thoughts.

l have seem televised games from the ArenA, but its not the same.

scorpio81
17 May 2005, 02:55 PM
the library???
:eek: :eek:

what atmosphere does it have?
:confused: :confused:

ashburton grove will be an improvement and a necessity for a team thats heading for the upper echelons of european football!!!

Rick B
17 May 2005, 03:51 PM
the library???
:eek: :eek:

what atmosphere does it have?
:confused: :confused:

ashburton grove will be an improvement and a necessity for a team thats heading for the upper echelons of european football!!!


Bollocks. It has a great atmousphere, especially in the Clock. I welcome anyone to sit in the Clock and tell me there is a beter match day.

The Grove will be bad in my opinion and half empty.