View Full Version : So why isn't Benitez being investigated?
Grim_Reaper
29 Apr 2005, 01:06 PM
Despite the fact that Frisk acknowledged in his report, that Rikjaard made three illegal attempts to approach him at half time, he got off scott free.
But Jose Mourinho was dragged over the coals by UEFA for his behaviour in Barcelona, including being censured for his alleged attempt to influence the choice of referee for the second leg.
Now we have Rafa Benitez openly admitting that he approached Sars after the game on wednesday in an attempt to get him to rescind Alonso's booking.
Surely this constitutes interference with a match official in an attempt to affect the second leg of the tie in Liverpool's favour.
Where is UEFA? Why is Benitez not under investigation?
JoshDB
30 Apr 2005, 12:24 AM
Because UEFA hates Chelsea.
KopThat!
30 Apr 2005, 05:28 AM
Because UEFA hates Chelsea.
Oh and they just LOVE Liverpool in contrast don't they? :rolleyes:
Fact: Alonso's yellow card will NOT be resinded even though he did nothing wrong. Clearly UEFA love Liverpool and hate Chelsea. :rolleyes:
Fact: Even 'if' (and it is an 'if' ) Liverpool win the CL, UEFA are not going to automatically let them compete in next season's competition and have said it will not denigrate the competition if the reigning champions do not compete the following year. Clearly UEFA love Liverpool and hate Chelsea. :rolleyes:
gomez
30 Apr 2005, 10:40 AM
Oh and they just LOVE Liverpool in contrast don't they? :rolleyes:
Fact: Alonso's yellow card will NOT be resinded even though he did nothing wrong. Clearly UEFA love Liverpool and hate Chelsea. :rolleyes:
Fact: Even 'if' (and it is an 'if' ) Liverpool win the CL, UEFA are not going to automatically let them compete in next season's competition and have said it will not denigrate the competition if the reigning champions do not compete the following year. Clearly UEFA love Liverpool and hate Chelsea. :rolleyes:
1) UEFA doesn't allow appeals over cautions. This applies to every team in UEFA.
2) Do you blame UEFA for not wanting a team that can't perform in their own league in the CL? Everton (or the 4th place team) has been the better team this season, period. You can go on and on about the CL performance, but it doesn't measure quality over time. Only Liverpool fans think they deserve to be there - imagine that.
3) You're a dumbass.
Teso Dos Bichos
30 Apr 2005, 04:54 PM
Now we have Rafa Benitez openly admitting that he approached Sars after the game on wednesday in an attempt to get him to rescind Alonso's booking.
That's the key difference.
quentinc
30 Apr 2005, 05:51 PM
Now we have Rafa Benitez openly admitting that he approached Sars after the game on wednesday in an attempt to get him to rescind Alonso's booking.
So? He simply went to the referee AFTER THE GAME, and questioned the reasoning behind booking Alonso. He obviously didn't want him to be out for the second leg, and decided to, after the match, approach the official to question the ruling. It's nothing to hold an investigation over.
mshankb
01 May 2005, 07:18 AM
Mourinho did nothing wrong. Benitez approached the referee in an attempt to influence his actions. No-one's saying UEFA love Liverpool, just that they hate Chelsea.
quentinc
01 May 2005, 01:27 PM
Mourinho did nothing wrong. Benitez approached the referee in an attempt to influence his actions. No-one's saying UEFA love Liverpool, just that they hate Chelsea.
How was he trying to influence his actions? It was after the game. If that counts as trying to influence someone's actions, then every fan, player, and coach who has ever argued with an official should be investigated by UEFA.
655321
01 May 2005, 01:33 PM
You guys got nothing here.
Andy Bennett
01 May 2005, 06:03 PM
You guys got nothing here.
Not so sure about that...
The point is that Rijkaard, who DID try and influence a ref at half-time, recieved no criticism or censure, whereas our guy, who complained about it, DID receive a censure and punishment.
Distrunner450 makes a good point... EVERY manager, fan and player tries to influence the ref in this respect... and ALL should be treated equally. But some are a little more equal than others, it seems.
You can't expect that not to rankle.
I would not like Benitez to receive any criticism. But, then again, neither should we have.
Grim_Reaper
02 May 2005, 01:21 AM
How was he trying to influence his actions? It was after the game. If that counts as trying to influence someone's actions, then every fan, player, and coach who has ever argued with an official should be investigated by UEFA.
Of course it was after the match , the booking was in the 88th minute, you moron.
It is trying to influence his actions because it is mid way through a two leg tie, that's why.
He's trying to influence the referee to rescind a card so his player is eligible for the second leg. That is direct, inappropriate, interference and it is applied to a match official while he still has jurisdiction over the tie, ie the ref can rescind the card when he submits his report
Mourinho, on the other hand, merely expressed his preference in the media (for referee) for the second leg v Barcelona, long after the first leg was done and dusted, and promptly got censured by UEFA.
quentinc
02 May 2005, 12:47 PM
He's trying to influence the referee to rescind a card so his player is eligible for the second leg. That is direct, inappropriate, interference and it is applied to a match official while he still has jurisdiction over the tie, ie the ref can rescind the card when he submits his report
He told the ref that he didn't think it was a good call, and expressed his opinion about it. The ref doesn't have to pay any attention to it, and can ignore his complaint. Again, if you think he should be investigated for arguing a call, then UEFA's got alot of people to investigate.