Championship Manager Thread

[DutchFootballRulez]

Well, I'm not really happy. I'd want Adu in the game so I could manage him and turn him into the best player in the World. But w/o the US national team. Half the fun is lost for me. I like managing these underdogs.

Watching young players grow into World class stars is just one of the aspects of CM that I love. But...no US leagues means No CM 03/04 till after Christmas.

[GoRapids]

My team has jumped to the top of the German Second Division ... I won six in a row ... haven't lost in like 13 ...

I refuse to turn off my computer for fear of screwing up the streak! Do I have a problem?

[Bonji]

Originally posted by DutchFootballRulez
Well, I'm not really happy. I'd want Adu in the game so I could manage him and turn him into the best player in the World. But w/o the US national team. Half the fun is lost for me. I like managing these underdogs.

Watching young players grow into World class stars is just one of the aspects of CM that I love.

You should check out CM Scout to see if Adu has the potential ability to get to the top. In my game he only has potential ability of 160 (out of 200) so he is good, but not the greatest ever.

[Darr]

Originally posted by Bonji
You should check out CM Scout to see if Adu has the potential ability to get to the top. In my game he only has potential ability of 160 (out of 200) so he is good, but not the greatest ever.


Actually he has potential ability of -2 which mean that his ability will be 160-200 depending on the training ability of the club he ends up at and whether or not he plays first team.... If you find one that has potential ability of -1 it means 140-180... At least this is what SI Games said on their forums....

[Bonji]

I haven't seen a -2 potential ability, we must be looking at different things. All I know is that in my current game he is rated with potential ability of 160. The game doesn't make him out to be the world dominator that some believe he might become. However, he is the best American in the game so someone playing in MLS should pick him up for sure!

[DutchFootballRulez]

I think CM Scout has taken the official SI rating and converted it into easier to understand number. Adu at the right club will become the Greatest American ever.

BTW, does anyone have the latest Data update from 09/02/03. Has Adu been removed from the Game? Because CM Scout told me he was at a club that wasn't simulated so I can't find him what a drag. I think I'm gonna start a new file w/ Chelsea.

[iansfavouritecopilot]

Im using the latest official update now and everything is fine. MLS is more accurate than ever. I bought Shavar Thomas for Liverpool :D

[Danks81]

Originally posted by iansfavouritecopilot
MLS is more accurate than ever.

What do you mean?

[astabooty]

cm scout sounds like a cheat to me. can you just type in someones name and see their potential? if so that seems pretty cheap to me n takes the fun out of finding a good player.

[Ictar]

I got this damn game and you all were right: It's too addictive. That's actually perfect since I have nothing else to do but play soccer and work now days.

I won the Bundesliga with Bayern after a few failed attempts playing Manchester United, Everton, and Real Madrid. I finally got a decent tactic to use. It's a 3-1-1-3-2, with the two outside of the final 3 in midfield attacking. I won the league with a different one, a 3 - 1 - 4 - 2.

So far I've bought only bought Mathis, Adu, and Donovan, with Donovan not coming until 2006. I don't think I should have bought him. Mathis and Elber are a great striking pair, though. Elber had 30 goals and 9 assist, and in 11 appearances Mathis had 9 goals and 6 assists, even though in 4 of those games I had him in midfield.

I can not buy Kaka. I've even put in an offer totalling 13.5 million, with 11 of it being cash. I have the same problem with Ronaldinho, even though both of them are unhappy at their clubs and I get emails saying they wanted to come to Bayern.

The problem with Bayern is my players are already so good that any kind of upgrade to play over them normally is worth more than my transfer budget. I've only rarely found anyone better than a starting lineup of this:

------Kahn----
-Sagnol----Linke----Lizerazu
------Jeremies----
--Deisler---Ballack---Scholl---Ze Roberto
-----Elber-----Mathis---

With a bench of Kuoffor, Hargreaves, Adu, Pizarro, Santa Cruz and Wessels it's hard to upgrade with 11 m. Maybe I'm just not good enough at finding people.

By the way, who has gotten Adu and just stuck him in the first team? He regularly gets a rating of 7/8, even in champs league games I played against Roma, Juventus, and Man U.

Anyone have any tips on actually getting players to come to your club? I've had bids rejected for Kaka, Ronaldinho, Tim Howard, Christian Ronaldo, Quaresma, Mido, and Diego that sometimes are two times as much cash as it says they are worth.

[TrooperBari]

Originally posted by Ictar
Anyone have any tips on actually getting players to come to your club? I've had bids rejected for Kaka, Ronaldinho, Tim Howard, Christian Ronaldo, Quaresma, Mido, and Diego that sometimes are two times as much cash as it says they are worth.

Winning makes any club attractive. Once your trophy case starts to bulge, you should find it somewhat easier to bring in players.

Also, see if you can track down players who are nearing the end of their contracts (the player search on your shortlist page has that option). Signing those players when their contract is unprotected is one way you can get quality players on a free instead of paying through the nose for every single starter.

[Shabs]

Originally posted by Darr
Actually he has potential ability of -2 which mean that his ability will be 160-200 depending on the training ability of the club he ends up at and whether or not he plays first team.... If you find one that has potential ability of -1 it means 140-180... At least this is what SI Games said on their forums....

Actually, what I believe it does is throws in a randomness to his potential (and anyone else who has a negative #.) As you said, -2 means he could be anyhwhere from 160-200, selected randomly at the beginning of a game. Notice that if you start a new game, Adu's potential will be different than in your prior game.

[Peakite]

Just picked the game up again after a little break, still at Halifax and have managed to drag the club up into the 1st division. Earlier AI managers succeeded in getting them there a few times, but all bar one season saw 24th placed finishes. Half way through the current season and I'm mid table, form is reasonably good, but given how close the table is could be interesting either way.

Also the past eight Premiership title winners (five different clubs) have all began with the letter B.

[GoRapids]

Has anyone gotten a Regional team in Germany to First Division?

I just did it with Saarbruken ... oh man ... Top Flight is a LOT different than Second division. Suddenly all my players have become only "useful".

I only have 4 million to spend ... which I'm dropping all on one player ...

Hopefully I'll survive ... but the top five teams in First Division are WAY out of my league (though I managed to draw Shalke 04 at home). Has anyone managed to take a Regional team and make them a contender? Or is it going to be an impossible feat?

[DutchFootballRulez]

I've actually taken a break (extended) from CM4. Being as how CM 03/04 won't have any US-based players ('cept Adu) It's ruined most realism it was supposed to have. I mean..no US in the World Cup unless they use made up players. but then u can't manage them and I'm still disappointed by this.

[astabooty]

Originally posted by DutchFootballRulez
I've actually taken a break (extended) from CM4. Being as how CM 03/04 won't have any US-based players ('cept Adu) It's ruined most realism it was supposed to have. I mean..no US in the World Cup unless they use made up players. but then u can't manage them and I'm still disappointed by this.

from what i remember only us players based in us leagues will not be in it. so u still have keller, howard, friedel, obrien, sanneh, umm lewis, kirvoski, and whoever else is overseas. doesnt man u have like 2 other americans?
and i have read that the usnt will be in the game. eventually (predicted at 8 yrs i think) the us should be pretty good due to pc generated players.

and like previously mentioned a patch could most likely be made fairly easily...all they would have to do is copy the mls and american players from cm4.

[DutchFootballRulez]

True there is about 80-90 players in the EU and S. America, but still... the MLS is the MLS. I guess I'll get it but only after that MLS add-in is created.

[astabooty]

Originally posted by DutchFootballRulez
True there is about 80-90 players in the EU and S. America, but still... the MLS is the MLS. I guess I'll get it but only after that MLS add-in is created.

stop being a party pooper dutch! lol.
ajax is basically the only team i use n i would buy the game without them...hell even w/o the dutch league or nt.
btw i LOVE the dutch league due to their rules on foreign players (no limit).
can any1 tell me some good leagues that are similar.
i dont like spain cuz only 3 non-eu players allowed,
england can be cool but u need internationals on ur team which means u need a lot of money and its frustrating when u cant get a work permit for a good young player.

those are the only leagues i have run. i am pretty sure brasil and argentina only allow a few non country players.
so what about umm i guess italy, germany, portugal, turkey, etc.

[Spartak]

Originally posted by astabo0t
those are the only leagues i have run. i am pretty sure brasil and argentina only allow a few non country players.
so what about umm i guess italy, germany, portugal, turkey, etc.
Italy has no player restrictions in CM4. So it should be really easy to build a squad there w/o worrying about non-EU restrictions. Although, they did just change the rules in Italy allowing only one non-EU player to be signed a year. So CM4 03/04 should have this in the game. Germany allows 5 non-EU players in the starting 11 and 8 non-EU players in the squad. I don't know about Portugal and Turkey. Although, since half the players in Portugal are Brazilian I suspect there are no player restrictions.

[Kevin in Louisiana]

I don't know if you'll be able to add the MLS to CM 03/04. I know in CM3 you couldn't change any competitions with editors, but has this changed with CM4 or not?

Adding the players I wouldn't expect to be any problem. And it's also a good excuse to rectify some of the underrated US players (heh, heh). ;)

[edit]--looks like there will be some editing of competitions according to screenshots on SI Games's website. They didn't show what you'll actually be able to edit, though. Even if you can add MLS I don't think you could get realistic finances or the draft system and everything.