Championship Manager Thread

[Goodsport]

&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp Will there be a difference in the version of CM4 that'll be available (hopefully) March 28 in most other countries and the version that'll eventually be sold in North America? :confused:

&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp If not, then I might as well pre-order it online from the UK. If so, then I'd better wait for the North American release.


-G

[Spartak]

Originally posted by Goodsport
&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp Will there be a difference in the version of CM4 that'll be available (hopefully) March 28 in most other countries and the version that'll eventually be sold in North America? :confused:

&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp If not, then I might as well pre-order it online from the UK. If so, then I'd better wait for the North American release.


-G
There is no difference that I know of. Since CM has never distributed to North America before I don't know what that version would be like. But I assume it would be the same as the British version.

[Goodsport]

Originally posted by Spartak
There is no difference that I know of. Since CM has never distributed to North America before I don't know what that version would be like. But I assume it would be the same as the British version.

&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp Thanks Spartak! :)

&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp I suppose I'd better pre-order it quickly to satiate my CM fix ASAP! :D


-G

[kerpow]

Hi, you'll have to excuse my complete ignorance as I'm not a huge gamer. I play alot of Empire Earth but thats about it.

I did play very early simulators, pre-PC days. Premiership Manager I think it was called. Very easy though. I think I took Tranmere Rovers to league champions and UEFA cup final or something equally ludicrous.

So what is all the hype for CM4 about? What is the difference between this new version and games from 10 years ago? Just prettier graphics?

Is it available in the USA or should I get a mate from England to ship it over.

It sounds like fun though and as it's brand new I may well get it and join in the discussions on this site about it.

[comme]

The graphics are if anything worse than Premiership manager, but it is the most realistic and addictive football sim ever made. If you want a life don't get it.

[kerpow]

Originally posted by comme
If you want a life don't get it.

Lol. I would imagine thats very true.

Actually that would be perfect for me as I've had to restrict myself to one night a week on the beers to save up for some travelling in South America later this year or early next.

[Zenit]

Originally posted by Zenit
I pre-ordered CM4 thru gamerUK on 11/30/02. Last Monday, they billed my credit card, came to $46.82 including the shipping. The e-mail confirmation that they sent said that all-preorders will be shipped no later than the 28 March release date.

Shipped today, be here in a week:

Products Ordered:

Quantity: 1 SKU: preorder259 Description: PC CD-ROM (PRE-ORDER) CHAMPIONSHIP MANAGER 4 Unit Price: £ 24.99 Status: Completed Shipped Via: n/a Shipped
On: 03/27/2003 12:40:01 Tracking #: n/a


Product Subtotal: £24.99


Tax: £0.00
S&H (Courier within the UK Or Delivery Outside Europe): £4.00

Grand Total: £28.99


I'll see you folks in a couple of months ;)

[comme]

Originally posted by kerpow
Lol. I would imagine thats very true.

Actually that would be perfect for me as I've had to restrict myself to one night a week on the beers to save up for some travelling in South America later this year or early next.

It will be perfect as you will also save on food as you will forget to eat. The only problem will be that sleep deprivation is likely and you may get sacked from work.

[sinner78]

hail my portuguese champions Sporting lisbon..

Goalkeeper
Nelson

Defence
Andre Cruz
Taribo west
Beto

Midfield
Adgar Barsom
Roberto Palacios
Rui Bento
Pedro barbosa
Joao Pinto

Attack
Jardel
Marius Niculae


Subs
Tiago
Helder rosario
Ricardo quaresma
Sa Pinto
Afonso Martins
cardinha

[BenC1357]

Anybody have this happen.....

I'm in about my 15th season. I've won the EPL 3 of the last 4 years and 4 of the last 6. I've put together an absolutely astonishing team that won all four trophies last season(EPL, League Cup, FA Cup, Champs. League). Then, this season rolls around and all the sudden players start disliking each other. First teams tried to buy almost every single one of my players (expected). Then, when a couple players got mad that I wouldnt let them go during the offseason, some people got pissed at them for wanting to leave. I'm into the next season and my talent is high enough that I'm running away with the EPL again, but half my team is unhappy. I've been forced to sell a starting midfielder and d-mid (both 23 and valued around $20,000,000+) at the winter transfer window just to satisfy the other 9 starters that "dislike" them.
What did I do wrong? Anyone have this happen to them?

[subbuteo]

i'm not that far along and it hasn't happened to me but as long as you keep winning who cares? ;)

it might make the game a bit more challenging.

[kerpow]

Sounds like a case of Stan Collymore/Pierre Van Hoojidonk.

I remember the old manager sim I had back in the day a player, without any warning at all, would quit football altogether and go and open a pub!! Very frustrating the day b4 a major cup final.

However, as a football manager you can pretend to be interviewed by John Motson and shrug your shoulders and say "....but thats football for you".

[Peakite]

Saw it on sale today.

Went into the shop to buy the game and ended up with TOCA Race Driver instead.

Still enjoying my game of CM00/01.

[bocatuna]

Bought the game to day, talk about a huge dissapointment, its sower, despite my machine outsripping the min. spec., and it's filled with bugs ( reportedly over 90 of them). There's a patch or enhancement pack floating around that should fix most of the problems, but maybe not all of them.

I'm going to play over the weekend before deciding if I want to keep or not.

[subbuteo]

which version did you buy, the new one or 01/02?

[Mario]

WTF!!! Im subscribed to this thread and I m not getting the mails!!! :mad:

[bocatuna]

Originally posted by subbuteo
which version did you buy, the new one or 01/02?

The new one, the complete official game. I tracked down Enhancement Pack 1 which fixes 45 of the bugs ( simply download and it will update itself)

http://www.cecilashitey.com/cmworld/news/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=2

It's not all doom and gloom though. I started a game with Barca ( chosen from 39 national leagues availble , including US A League and D3-Pro-League). The training section is greatly enhanced, with options such 5 -a -side games, cross country runs, shadow play and weight training, which you can set either in the morning and afternoon for each day of the week.

The 2-D match view is fun , but could get annoying as it takes time to load up , however you can disable it. There's other stuff like being able to take control of your U-19 side and you recieve more feedback from the fans, players and agents.

The only real complaints are the speed of the game, and the fact that there are some many glitches, but over the next couple of weeks there will be plenty of patches availble over the net or with magazines that should solve the problem. With every new CM game it takes time to adjust.

PS Theres also a little known wunderkid by the name of Freddy Adu who was my first attempted signing but Fenerbache beat me to him.

[bocatuna]

Here's a list of everthing the pack corrects:

Fixed problem opening game window on some PC's
Fixed league stage heading when viewing away records.
Fixed bug whereby Financial Income Tables totals always appeared to be zero.
Fixed problem where computer friendly proposal news items did not have respond button.
Fixed cup screen problem where dots sometimes replaced the v's.
Fixed problem where transfers did not always get cancelled after a transfer deadline.
Fixed some Swedish stadium issues for derby games.
Fixed rehabilitation time out calculation.
Fixed really low maximum wages allowed by the board, when approaching to sign certain players.
Fixed the missing Euro symbol when using Ter's skin.
Fixed unable to untick man specific marking option during match.
Fixed scouting individual players sometimes never were reported back.
Fixed captain changing during match problem (assistant picking captain when shouldn't.)
Fixed problem with histories not showing up for players (this was related to the installer)
All shortcut keys now are handled on the news screen.
Added ability to display club logo's on team screens [Spanish Version Only]
When a person's contract expires and no response is made to the news item, you now don't get the same news every day from then on.
When user has news items allowing responses, the game doesn't take him to news screen every 2 hours.
Loans are now not terminated by computer teams as much.
Teams won't try to buy first options on players they cannot buy. e.g. Non Basque players and Athletico Bilbao.
Human players can now no longer respond to contract decision news for other teams.
All player transfers now get cancelled on transfer deadline day.
Disabling scouting of "parent" comps like the Portugese Second Division B. This caused a crash before. The individual regional leagues can still be scouted.
Added a link to a player's club when viewing them through a national team.
Changed the way the picking positions panel worked so it won't collapse and disappear
Fixed the currency conversion for the Brazilian Real
Allowed a little more flexibility with regards to wage offers, prior to this board was very strict as to whom it considered a first team or key player.
Lowered wages allowed for squad rotation and first team players a little.
Tuned scottish finance system to prevent non-old firm teams gaining ground on them too easily.
Injuries time string rounded to nearest and not always upwards.
Injury lengths adjusted.
Player compare used the neutral colour for some positional comparisons.
If selling team does not make contract offer to part exchanged player, the offer is now cancelled.
Competitions


Fixed problem where game dates for Euro Champ Qual differed to actual real life dates causing leagues to be scheduled incorrectly
Fixed Croatian Super Cup date.
Fixed winter break periods for Italian leagues.
Fixed Greek second division playoff problem where losing non league team may still be promoted.
Fixed French league schedule to play on specific wednesday.
Fixed N.Ireland Cup semi-finals are now played on neutral venues.
Fixed Antrim Shield and Irish Cup match times.
Fixed last 2 games being played on a sunday at 3pm.
Fixed German league cup fixture dates.
Fixed Japanese super cup not being played in 2003
Dutch Premier/First Division playoffs now do not get postponed due to the European Championships.
Squad numbers added for Portugese teams.
Champions League 2nd phase now has improved method of keeping teams from same nation and group apart.
Correct teams at home in MLS playoff quarter finals.
No away goals now for MLS playoff quarter finals.
Reserve leagues for leagues starting in 2003 now work properly.
Mexican playoffs now get decided on league positions if draws
not extra time and pens.
3 rounds instead of 2 for Irish First Division in second season.
Two legged playoff final for Irish league.
Reserve dates fixed for first year in Ireland.
Argentina teams now use squad numbers.
In Argentina, if home and away team kits clash, the home team changes its colours.
Brazilian state cup draws now seeded properly.
Prize money for Brazilian state leagues now works.
Minas Gerais state championship winner is now declared champions.
Relegation now applies to Sao Paulo and Mato Grosso do Sul state championships.
Fixed reserves and U18s for Brazilian teams.
Brazilian cup now gets played every year.
Yugoslav reserve league expanded to 18 teams
Yugoslav u21 rule changed to cover only 2nd division
Match Day


Fixed set piece taker timewasting when losing late in the game
Fixed fairly common bug where full back would throw ball to centre back who would be robbed for run in at goal
Fixed goalie rather naively taking throw back to opposition after injury
Fixed problem where live league table was not being updated when returning to a match screen.
Setting team mentality for human teams now comes into effect immediately not at the end of the current period.
Teams now lie deep or push up more in relation to their mentality
Tuning of offside assessment from passing player's point of view
Direct free kicks less effective
Found happy medium between "loads of disallowed goals" in beta demo and "none" in v4.0.1
If a human manager returns from holiday or reenters a network game during his team's match, either he or the computer will take control depending on who had original control, not both.
Auto continue now works after a match day has finished.
Latest scores panel now shows human controlled teams in yellow.
Latest scores now show the current match period of all games.
Human controlled teams on latest scores are now highlighted.
Awards


Fixed award referred to players' old clubs if transferred during season.
Fixed continental and global awards not announced.
Fixed World Cup, Euro Championship awards (and similar) not being processed after first competition.
Yearly awards now showing current year, listed in reverse order, and correct last winner.
Team award news now shows up to 3 of your players (if any were named.)
Award screen now shows child competitions awards.
Now records matches for child competitions.
Player/Staff Search


Fixed not able to save (short)lists while out of a job.
Fixed retired players listed in player search.
Fixed filtering by value from (e.g.) 100K to (e.g.) 100K showing no results.
Fixed misaligned text and icons.
Fixed filtering attributes with upper value of 0 including all.
Fixed national managers listed with their nationality and not national team.

[cpwilson80]

Originally posted by BenC1357
Anybody have this happen.....

I'm in about my 15th season. I've won the EPL 3 of the last 4 years and 4 of the last 6. I've put together an absolutely astonishing team that won all four trophies last season(EPL, League Cup, FA Cup, Champs. League). Then, this season rolls around and all the sudden players start disliking each other. First teams tried to buy almost every single one of my players (expected). Then, when a couple players got mad that I wouldnt let them go during the offseason, some people got pissed at them for wanting to leave. I'm into the next season and my talent is high enough that I'm running away with the EPL again, but half my team is unhappy. I've been forced to sell a starting midfielder and d-mid (both 23 and valued around $20,000,000+) at the winter transfer window just to satisfy the other 9 starters that "dislike" them.
What did I do wrong? Anyone have this happen to them?

This happens to me sometimes. I've built up quite the squad as well -- however, I am playing with Peterborough. Naturally, some players want to play for a "bigger" club (though in my game I've won the EPL the past 4 years and the CL the past 3.) Whenever they ask, I just let them go on the transfer list and use the money to develop someone else (this just happened to my star striker who was 3rd place in Euro player of the year.) However, when I was playing with San Jose (club just before), DeRosario asked to be transfer listed as he wanted a new challenge. Then we won the US Open Cup and MLS Cup, and he changed his mind and decided he wanted to stay.

What I have a harder time with is selling players. For some reason, teams hardly approach my guys. I usually buy real cheap and develop, so I still make a profit, but sometimes I sell them for half their transfer cost.

[subbuteo]

yeah, it's quite frustrating...and then someone like Real Madrid drops $50million on someone like Saliou Lassissi or something....