Spurs v DC United on FSW - 10/17

[Cantona]

what a bunch of muppets..
all of you....

the commentator gave US football alot of credit
a stated it was a direct result of the MLS...

but all you can whine about is that he mistated
and said MSL...

and crowd attendance... even the DC United
coach stated they were not used to a
knowledgeable football fan atmosphere and
were not used to playing in front of this type
of crowd..

next you will be saying DC United can win the
Premiership.... sure.. if Chris Waddle and Ray
Allen are playing for Spurs... then yes..
you have a chance...

take the game for what it was... a good spirited
friendly... quit whining...

commentary was excellent... great production
good for FSW to show the game...

even the British commentator tried to placate
to you whiners by interjecting "soccer" instead
of "football".....

Cantona---
"eurosnob extrodinaire"

[nowhere]

Ray Allen was playing?!? What did George Karl have to say about that, so close to the season?

[Cantona]

sorry..
dont know who george karl is...

or... should i say .. its nothing to do with
football.. :)

Cantona--

[PaulGascoigne]

Originally posted by TomEaton
Are they really going to televise this? It doesn't look like even a semi-competitive game.

It sounded like the home side put up a bit of a test for a while :) :D

In these charity type games, you usually think of the home team picking a lame team to beat up on, get the old mojo workin'. Didn't happen.

By my count, EPL is 0-3-4 *vs. the young upstart league. It's not that for our part that we haven't been competitive.

*Actually, Forest was in D1 vs. Miami in '99, and this one today was a sort of DC+2 guest players vs. a Spurs XI team (but not a bad XI!).

[PaulGascoigne]

Originally posted by PaulGascoigne


It sounded like the home side put up a bit of a test for a while :) :D

In these charity type games, you usually think of the home team picking a lame team to beat up on, get the old mojo workin'. Didn't happen.

By my count, EPL is 0-3-4 * (am I missing any?) vs. the young upstart league. It's not MLS' fault that the games haven't been competitive.

*Actually, Forest was in D1 vs. Miami in '99, and this one today was a sort of DC+2 guest players vs. a Spurs XI team (but not a bad XI!).

[nowhere]

Originally posted by Cantona
sorry..
dont know who george karl is...

or... should i say .. its nothing to do with
football.. :)

Cantona--
Well I don't know any Ray Allen who played for Spurs in the game.

[Cantona]

your right... dont know why i put ray...
i meant clive..

Cantona---

[Elninho]

Originally posted by PaulGascoigne


It sounded like the home side put up a bit of a test for a while :) :D

In these charity type games, you usually think of the home team picking a lame team to beat up on, get the old mojo workin'. Didn't happen.

By my count, EPL is 0-3-4 *vs. the young upstart league. It's not that for our part that we haven't been competitive.

*Actually, Forest was in D1 vs. Miami in '99, and this one today was a sort of DC+2 guest players vs. a Spurs XI team (but not a bad XI!).

1-3-4. Fulham beat Miami 5-0 in 2001 in a friendly played on a baseball diamond. IIRC, Fulham scored 4 times in the last 10 minutes of that match.

[ignatz]

I was puzzled by the several references the announcer made to how dazzled the DC players must be by the size of the crowd and the size of the stadium at White Hart Lane. That's just sloppy journalism. Perhaps there is little or no reason why he should have known the career details of a bunch of obscure American players, but the fact sheet should have told him that United's home stadium seats 57,000, some 20K bigger than White Hart Lane. True, the crowds are much smaller, especially given the fact that DCU finished dead last in the league (13K this year). Still, in the past they have played for 20 and 25K several times a season, and had the place filled to capacity in 97 for the championship game.

So, if anything surprised the DC United players about White Hart Lane it probably was how small it is for the home turf of such a storied team.

Are all the English stadiums that small?

[IamtheShark]

Replay?

Surely FSW will retelevise, encore presentation and all that. Details, anyone (nothing currently on their website)?

[CrewDust]

Some of the DC players probably were impressed. But the players who play for there respective national teams have seen tougher crowds.

[CHICO13]

Originally posted by IamtheShark
Replay?

Surely FSW will retelevise, encore presentation and all that. Details, anyone (nothing currently on their website)?
I've heard tonight at 8:00

[Father Ted]

Originally posted by CHICO13

I've heard tonight at 8:00

That is correct, 8pm EST

[wu-tang beez]

Originally posted by IamtheShark
Replay?

Surely FSW will retelevise, encore presentation and all that. Details, anyone (nothing currently on their website)?
tv listings FSWe (http://www.terra.com/deportes/especiales/fox_tv_sched/fswe42.pdf)

Summomubeeeaaach!!! ********ing FSWe won't show the match at all, not even a 1AM reair, but I can get all the crappy MFL precopalibertadores I want for wks. 2 wks now, no EPL, no Bundesliga, no UEFA qualifying, but Oh we got plenty of MFL 2nd division games for ya! Nothing like watching Pachuca v Tigres playing on a sand lot in front of 5000 fans, goats & chickens for the 17th time. That's it, I'm moving to a complex that has ATTBi or Turner, cause charter is killing me.

[Brownswan]

DCU made MLS look very good. Klinnsman commented on the quality of play, and the announcers gave the league and US soccer many a boost. It was a good show, and our lot won. Couldn't ask for anything more.

Wade's post-match interview was also a bright spot -- he came across as intelligent and well-spoken, and he admitted that the English game represents a real step up from his own league and that DC and guests were all happy to have taken part in the charity match.

The team left a good impression, and the lads come home with fond memories.

[clubfoot]

I don't see how Eddie Pope, who's been to two World Cups, or Etcheverry, who's been through South American qualifying, would be put off by the atmosphere of a charity match at White Hart Lane.

[Cantona]

you obviously have never been to a
British football stadium.... some of the more
smaller grounds can be very intimidating..
for one.. the crowd is right next to the pitch,
the fans are chanting constantly... the sound
reverberates throughout the ground...

in most US grounds and even the grounds used
for the world cup... the sound is not as trapped
in as it is in the smaller grounds. I was at the
rose bowl when the world cup was in the US
and it was nothing compared to the last match
i went to in england and watched leeds v
bolton..at elland road...

most us players are used to playing in 50k stadiums
with a crowd of 2-3k... all blowing boat horns and
banging a drum.... i would say the commentator
got it right... even the dc coach mentioned the
atmosphere...

Cantona----

[ignatz]

Originally posted by Cantona

most us players are used to playing in 50k stadiums
with a crowd of 2-3k... Cantona----

You're right about stadium size, but not about crowd size. I believe the average MLS attendance is around 15K. DC United's was 13K this year, way down from 17K of a couple of years ago as a result of three successive, bottom or next to bottom of the pack finishes.

At one point the announcer explicitly referred to the SIZE of the stadium, not just the crowd and atmosphere, suggesting that the DC player were awed by it. Not likely. I was very surprised that it seated only 36K. I would have thought double that for a team as famous as Tottenham.

[clubfoot]

Originally posted by Cantona
you obviously have never been to a
British football stadium.... some of the more
smaller grounds can be very intimidating..
for one.. the crowd is right next to the pitch,
the fans are chanting constantly... the sound
reverberates throughout the ground...

in most US grounds and even the grounds used
for the world cup... the sound is not as trapped
in as it is in the smaller grounds. I was at the
rose bowl when the world cup was in the US
and it was nothing compared to the last match
i went to in england and watched leeds v
bolton..at elland road...

most us players are used to playing in 50k stadiums
with a crowd of 2-3k... all blowing boat horns and
banging a drum.... i would say the commentator
got it right... even the dc coach mentioned the
atmosphere...

Cantona----

I've been to several English stadiums. The atmosphere was fantastic in all of them, even the Highbury Library. I had a great time. My point, however, is that Eddie Pope just played South Korea, in South Korea, during the World Cup. He also played against Iran in France '98. Etcheverry has had to play qualifiers in places like the Bombonera. As great as White Hart Lane is, I don't believe that the atmosphere there for a charity game compares to the intensity of the other situations some of these players have been in during their careers.

[wu-tang beez]

Originally posted by Cantona
in most US grounds and even the grounds used
for the world cup... the sound is not as trapped
in as it is in the smaller grounds....most us players are used to playing in 50k stadiums
with a crowd of 2-3k

Not to flame, but this proves how little respect MLS and American futbol in general garners. DC averaged nearly 17k, while Dallas & Colorado(which play in +65K venues) were the weakest still avg 13k. Avg Attendance (http://www.mlsnet.com/statistics/league.html) Azteca stadium seats 110k and prob has 125k unofficial or so shoe horned in for your spare to fair US/El Tri qualifier. Plus Costa Rica's little matchbox stadiums rocks as loud & has more urine bombs than even the most raucous Euro match. Sorry, but the veteran US players, El diablo and Moreno know all about playing in front of big, hostile crowds.

note to self: switch 2 decaff