View Full Version : How good is CPSL?
JJBIGS
21 Apr 2005, 10:08 PM
I just wanted to know how good CPSL is compared to european football? Would it be as "good" as 3rd Division in england? Or worse/better?
Daniel from Montréal
21 Apr 2005, 10:41 PM
Maybe conference calibre (maybe a bit less), less the fitness and professionalism.
canadiansoccerrules redded
22 Apr 2005, 12:02 PM
Maybe conference calibre (maybe a bit less), less the fitness and professionalism.
It's not even conference calibre.....it's just a pub league.
Canadian_Supporter
22 Apr 2005, 02:03 PM
Might not be conference calibre, but it isn't a pub league.
I have never seen a Conference game, so I wouldn't know. Although, I would put the CPSL on par with the 4th division in the Czech Republic.
Vanguard
22 Apr 2005, 02:17 PM
How does it compare to U.S. LEAGUES? (USL 1st, 2nd or 3rd Division), I'm sure it's not on par with MLS yet. :cool:
jaydog2008
22 Apr 2005, 02:31 PM
Its maybe a bit higher then the pdl but thats even pushing it.
MAICOL
22 Apr 2005, 02:45 PM
The only true way to tell how good the CPSL is if the other Provinces across Canada have their Champions play the CPSL Champions to get a true Canadian Club Champion. With that being send should the A-League teams be included to determine how good the CPSL is along with the other top Provincal Champs? A few matchs would have to be played. The CPSL only has teams from Ontario and maybe one from Quebec. The Canada Open Cup that the CPSL has is an "Open" tournament to any club across Canada but need to pay up $10,000 to compete, including the A-League teams from Canada, and I understand that the winner could in the future represent Canada at the CONCACAF Club Champions League. Interesting......the Canadian team would be the underdog. If this is going to be the case the A-Leagues teams from Canada would want to be included for sure, I think. From I what I can see the CPSL is only league in Canada that wants to represent Canada in CONCACAF. The A-league teams do not seem interested at all to compete and represent Canada. I could be wrong........
CdnBhoy67 redded
23 Apr 2005, 12:07 PM
The only true way to tell how good the CPSL is if the other Provinces across Canada have their Champions play the CPSL Champions to get a true Canadian Club Champion. With that being send should the A-League teams be included to determine how good the CPSL is along with the other top Provincal Champs? A few matchs would have to be played. The CPSL only has teams from Ontario and maybe one from Quebec. The Canada Open Cup that the CPSL has is an "Open" tournament to any club across Canada but need to pay up $10,000 to compete, including the A-League teams from Canada, and I understand that the winner could in the future represent Canada at the CONCACAF Club Champions League. Interesting......the Canadian team would be the underdog. If this is going to be the case the A-Leagues teams from Canada would want to be included for sure, I think. From I what I can see the CPSL is only league in Canada that wants to represent Canada in CONCACAF. The A-league teams do not seem interested at all to compete and represent Canada. I could be wrong........
The Canadian a league teams can't afford to compete in the Concacaf club Championship, simple as that, besides do you really thing any of them could put up a fight in a tournament like that? That get beaten and badly.
canadiansoccerrules redded
26 Apr 2005, 12:17 PM
The CPSL has just lost it's Brampton franchise before they
ever kicked off a ball. The on going soap opera that is
Canadian soccer. :(
MAICOL
26 Apr 2005, 01:47 PM
The CPSL has just lost it's Brampton franchise before they
ever kicked off a ball. The on going soap opera that is
Canadian soccer. :(
Theres most the hispanics players.
European16
26 Apr 2005, 07:13 PM
how would youcompare it to germanys Regionaliga or Oberliga?
thanks
CdnBhoy67 redded
27 Apr 2005, 12:57 PM
Theres most the hispanics players.
I don't think that a major problem. heres a Canadian league team just new
to the league from what I understand and they have folded before the new
season gets underway? Questions need to be asked of this league. :(
MAICOL
29 Apr 2005, 05:21 PM
The Canadian a league teams can't afford to compete in the Concacaf club Championship, simple as that, besides do you really thing any of them could put up a fight in a tournament like that? That get beaten and badly.
They would get badly and would not be able to afford it, o well too bad then. Maybe the teams from the A-League should have their own Canadian Cup, I think they do already.
ChrisE
29 Apr 2005, 05:30 PM
The Canadian a league teams can't afford to compete in the Concacaf club Championship, simple as that, besides do you really thing any of them could put up a fight in a tournament like that? That get beaten and badly.
Teams from Belize, Suriname, Nicaragua, Antigua, etc. competed in the Champions Cup last year - if they can afford it why can't Canada? A Canadian team probably couldn't stand up to Saprissa, Alajuelense, or the Mexican teams, but they would probably be competitive with the rest of the participants (MLS included) - they may not win, but they wouldn't be a train wreck either.
BringBackTheBlizzard
30 Apr 2005, 12:33 AM
Teams from Belize, Suriname, Nicaragua, Antigua, etc. competed in the Champions Cup last year - if they can afford it why can't Canada? A Canadian team probably couldn't stand up to Saprissa, Alajuelense, or the Mexican teams, but they would probably be competitive with the rest of the participants (MLS included) - they may not win, but they wouldn't be a train wreck either.
The major problem is the games are in the middle of winter before most Canadian teams have even got around to assembling their roster for the upcoming summer season.
As for how good the CPSL is what people need to grasp is that the OSA's definition of professionalism goes back to the old notions of amateurism that surrounded the Olympic movement and not to whether or not the players are playing the game as their primary income source. In reality the CPSL is the Toronto area's top amateur/semi-pro league and the split between professionalism and amateurism is used primarily as a mechanism to sideline top amateur clubs with an ethnic based appeal.
It's unfortunate that the Australian promotion and relegation approach within state/provincial leagues with ethnic clubs adopting names that are less blatantly linked to the old country could not have been adopted in Ontario instead of a franchise based system which does not punish failure and tolerates mediocrity.
USvsIRELAND
01 May 2005, 10:26 PM
Teams from Belize, Suriname, Nicaragua, Antigua, etc. competed in the Champions Cup last year - if they can afford it why can't Canada? A Canadian team probably couldn't stand up to Saprissa, Alajuelense, or the Mexican teams, but they would probably be competitive with the rest of the participants (MLS included) - they may not win, but they wouldn't be a train wreck either.
I'm sorry but some semi-pro team would get thrashed by any MLS team. Might be able to compete with USL team though.
NoodlesMacintosh
05 May 2005, 03:05 PM
I'm sorry but some semi-pro team would get thrashed by any MLS team. Might be able to compete with USL team though.
MLS teams have lost to PDL and USL teams before in the US Open Cup. It's not just some laughable hyperbole.
Joe MacCarthy
05 May 2005, 06:36 PM
MLS teams have lost to PDL and USL teams before in the US Open Cup. It's not just some laughable hyperbole.You are correct sir! Montreal Coach Nick DeSantis has stated that the only difference between USL 1 and MLS is the quality of the strikers.
Rick Titus (having played in both) said USL 1 was about equal to the old English 3rd division (now English League Two).
I wouldn't doubt there wouldn't be a few quality CPSL teams. I don't know much about the league but weren't the Ottawa Wizards pretty good.
USvsIRELAND
05 May 2005, 09:24 PM
MLS teams have lost to PDL and USL teams before in the US Open Cup. It's not just some laughable hyperbole.
Rarely, and PDL teams especially Rarely.
Saviola7
05 May 2005, 10:46 PM
Indeed ... That's just like saying that since a few premiership teams have lost to 3rd division teams in the past in the FA cup, that the level of play is similar