The 1936 Berlin Olimpic team

[condor11]

3 years before winning the 1939 copa america

peru had a great shot at picking up an olimpic medal in the berlin olimpic led by lolo fernandez

we absolutley destroyed finland in the first round 7-3, lolo scored 5

in the second round(quarter finals) we beat austria 4-2, the game finished 2-2 in extratime we scored twice

this is where the controversy begins,

"During extra-time, Peruvian fans ran onto the field and attacked an Austrian player. In the chaos, Peru scored twice and won, 4-2.

Or so the South Americans thought. Austria protested and the International Olympic Committee ordered a replay without any spectators. Peru refused and their entire Olympic squad left in protest as did Colombia."
http://www.fifa.com/en/comp/olympicsmen/0,2482,114-OLY-1936,00.html

austria went on to play in the final losing to the italians

if the bloody fans didnt interfere we could have walked away with a medal

then again...whos to say these fans where peruvian?
it was 1936 and a certain person in power was originally from austria :cool: ;)

[condor11]

the lineups were:

4 August 1936 Hertha Platz, Berlin
Att: 2,500 Ref: C.Rinaldo Barlasina (Ita) HT: 3-1
PERU 7 (T.Fernandez 17' 22' 43' 49' 69', Villanueva 47' 70')
FINLAND 3 (Kanerva 45'p, Gronlund 80', Larvo 81')
Peru: Valdivieso - A.Fernandes, V.Lavalle - Tovar, S.Castillo, Jordan -
T.Alcalde, Magallanes, T.Fernandez, Villanueva, Morales.
Finland: Salminen - Karjagin, Narvanen - Kanerva, Malmgren, Lahti -
Weckstrom, Gustafsson, Larvo, Gronlund, Lehtonen.

8 August 1936 Hertha Platz, Berlin
Ref: T.Kristiansen (Nor) HT: 0-2 (aet)
PERU 4 (Alcalde 75', Villanueva 81' 119, T.Fernandez 116')
AUSTRIA 2 (Werginz 22', Steinmetz 36')
Peru: Valdivieso - A.Fernandes, V.Lavalle - Tovar, S.Castillo, Jordan -
T.Alcalde, Magallanes, T.Fernandez, Villanueva, Morales.
Austria: E.Kainberger(cap) - Kargl, Kunz - Krenn, Wallmuller, Hofmeister -
Werginz, Laudon, Steinmetz, Kitzmuller, Fuchsberger.

"Upon protest by Austria this match was cancelled by the jury of appeal
because peruvian fans had invaded the field to celebrate after Villanueva
scored the 4th. goal in the last minute of the overtime, FIFA ordered the
match replayed and Peru did not show because all their Olympia delegation
had returned home in disagreement with the ruling."
http://www.rsssf.com/tableso/ol1936f-det.html

Top Scorers

7 Frossi (Ita)
6 T.Fernandez (Per)
5 Brustad (Nor), Wodarz (Pol)
4 Biagi (Ita), God (Pol), Villanueva (Per)
3 Steinmetz (Aut), Simestreiter (Ger), Urban (Ger)

[Visca...]

That's two different statements from two very "believable" websites. FIFA.com says that peruvian fans in germany :eek: went to attack an austrian fan, and then out of the chaos, Peru scored two and beat Austria 4-2.

the rssf website says that Peru had already scored those two goals. It was already 4-2 and the peruvian fans in germany :eek: went to celebrate the 4th goal by Villanueva onto the field. So who to believe? I think both of these stories are crooked and not very believable.

I know this story very well from my grandpa and he says that it wasn't peruvian fans that went on to celebrate. It was just the Peru bench that went on to celebrate to the pitch well after the ref had called the end of the game. So the game was already over and it wasn't peruvian fans from the stands. Adolf Hitler just couldn't face the fact that a "superior and white" squad could've been beaten by a "brown and inferior" side. He was in the stands at that game too. To see his team and his country defeated by a bunch of little peruvians was hard. He couldn't take it, so he ordered the game to be replayed. The peruvian delegation wasn't gonna accept that since they knew that it was gonan be harder and Austria was gonna get the upper hand from the ref in any calls and controversy. Boy, Adolf's mustache must've gotten on fire when Austria lost. :D I'll believe my grandpa on this one.

[locotl]

yeah I remember this story , also that a movie was made about it (can't remember the name) starring Pele, and Stallone

[vipnerd]

I've read in other books a few years back ... and chatting about it with my dad ... Austria protested the game with the excuse the pitch was smaller than the regular size.

Because of it ... they demanded a replay, which Peru oppossed and in protest retired from the tournie.


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[condor11]

yeah I remember this story , also that a movie was made about it (can't remember the name) starring Pele, and Stallone

i dont think that movie was based on the peru vs austria match

i wonder if that austrian team was the famous austrian wunderteam?

[Dominican Lou]

"During extra-time, Peruvian fans ran onto the field and attacked an Austrian player. In the chaos, Peru scored twice and won, 4-2.


So the game continue continued while this alleged attack was taking place?? Doesn't any make sense.

I say we beat them and they cried about it so we left. Man, Lolo and Villanueva together must have put on a show.

[condor11]

So the game continue continued while this alleged attack was taking place?? Doesn't any make sense.

I say we beat them and they cried about it so we left. Man, Lolo and Villanueva together must have put on a show.
isnt villanueva considered el maximo idolo alianzista?

[Visca...]

i dont think that movie was based on the peru vs austria match

yeah, the movie Victory was just about a team in WWII. It has nothing to do with Peru.

Is there video of the Berlin Olympics and Peru's games?

[Visca...]

Man, Lolo and Villanueva together must have put on a show.

Lethal partnership. Isn't that what we need today? :D

[locotl]

no wonder the chileans gave him a blank check to go over there.

[Visca...]

no wonder the chileans gave him a blank check to go over there.

colo colo was it? can you imagine a blank check at that time period? It was a very big deal. Lolo always loyal to la "U". :)

[Dominican Lou]

isnt villanueva considered el maximo idolo alianzista?
They don't know who to consider their maximo idolo.

Personally, I'd go with Cubillas or Cueto but whatever.

[jlscrub]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Visca el Barca! again.

[Garcia]

Wasn't the majority of the side from Sport Boys? :p

[condor11]

Wasn't the majority of the side from Sport Boys? :p
yes i believe it was

[Guti™]

They don't know who to consider their maximo idolo.

Personally, I'd go with Cubillas or Cueto but whatever.


Or Waldir? He was our hero in 93 and 97 when we won the league title after 156941651000 years. Him, Jayo, and Soto will always be remembered as the caudillos.

[condor11]

Or Waldir? He was our hero in 93 and 97 when we won the league title after 156941651000 years. Him, Jayo, and Soto will always be remembered as the caudillos.

waldir over cubillas? not likely;)

isnt matute officially called estadio alejandro villanueva?

[Visca...]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Visca el Barca! again.

;) preciate it bro'.

[Guti™]

waldir over cubillas? not likely;)


I never said I prefered him over Cubillas. Cubillas has been both Alianza and Peru's best all-time player. But no one can deny what Wally did for Alianza in the 90's.