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efernandez9
13 Apr 2005, 02:02 PM
who could be considered the best ever?

most goals and quality of goals.....

sotil in the old days or chumpitaz?

recent history: Pizarro o a local guy?

KesOne
13 Apr 2005, 02:05 PM
I'm not good at Peruvian history but I'll give it a try.

Old History: I would say chumpitaz. His name just sticks out more to me than sotil in Peruvian soccer history.

Recent Time: I am probably leaning towards Pizarro. The guy is racking up on goals being recognized worldwide.

vico
13 Apr 2005, 02:12 PM
it must be cubillas with 10 world cup goals

Visca...
13 Apr 2005, 02:12 PM
El "nene" Cubillas. hands down.

KesOne
13 Apr 2005, 02:25 PM
Well schitt, I didnt know El Nene was included in the question. I only saw chumpitaz and sotil. Nvmd, lol..I'm out this thread..

Visca...
13 Apr 2005, 02:39 PM
Top Ten according to peru.com's list

.....................................G............PJ
1 Teofilo Cubillas...............26..........81
2 Teodoro Fernández.........24..........31
3 Roberto Palacios.............18..........83
4 Hugo Sotil......................18.........62
5 Franco Navarro...............17.........57
6 Oswaldo Ramírez.............17.........57
7 Pedro Pablo León............14.........49
8 Jorge Alcalde..................13........15
9 Oscar Gómez Sánchez......13........25
10 Alberto Terry.................12.......24

http://www.peru.com/futbol/seleccion/historia/goleadores.asp

Visca...
13 Apr 2005, 02:41 PM
boy, look at Lolo fernandez's goal ratio. pretty good. Now I'm between el nene and Lolo. :D

vico
13 Apr 2005, 02:44 PM
true but cubillas scored some really important goals plus he wasn't a pure striker but more of a playmaker.

he's still nr 1 for me

Guti™
13 Apr 2005, 03:52 PM
Umm...Chumpitaz was a defender, not a striker.

Dominican Lou
13 Apr 2005, 05:57 PM
If we define striker as a pure center forward it'd have to be Lolo Fernandez with Perico Leon behind him.

Cubillas was a #10, Sotil a support forward and Chumpitaz a central defender so I wouldn't consider them.

peruytu
13 Apr 2005, 06:00 PM
Lolo of course.

AlonsoH
13 Apr 2005, 06:08 PM
Nene out as he is a midfielder. Lolo probably the best strike rate wise but I think Sotil (he was a striker right?) had the best skills. El Gran Perico Leon would probably come to mind as a third place

Then of course if we factor in Club level performance of play I might make Pizarro third in lieu of Perico Leon

condor11
13 Apr 2005, 08:17 PM
Top Ten according to peru.com's list

.....................................G............PJ
1 Teofilo Cubillas...............26..........81
2 Teodoro Fernández.........24..........31
3 Roberto Palacios.............18..........83
4 Hugo Sotil......................18.........62
5 Franco Navarro...............17.........57
6 Oswaldo Ramírez.............17.........57
7 Pedro Pablo León............14.........49
8 Jorge Alcalde..................13........15
9 Oscar Gómez Sánchez......13........25
10 Alberto Terry.................12.......24

http://www.peru.com/futbol/seleccion/historia/goleadores.asp

the peru.com list is horribly outdated, solano is 3rd all time scorer


go to this one its got the update numbers
http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/peru-recintlp.html

top 3 strikers(aka center foward) i dont include cubillas as an out and out striker he did play in the midfield in 78

1-lolo fernandez
2-valeriano lopez
3-perico leon/hugo sotil(if you include sotil as a striker that is)

alberto232ec
13 Apr 2005, 08:42 PM
I can't believe none of u guys have said this, but what about Waldir Saenz :D ROFL
Ok being serious I think Sotil was the best in history and Pizarro is the one from now, he might even surpass him if he scores more goals for the NT which what most ppl will remember him for.

condor11
13 Apr 2005, 08:48 PM
I can't believe none of u guys have said this, but what about Waldir Saenz :D ROFL
Ok being serious I think Sotil was the best in history and Pizarro is the one from now, he might even surpass him if he scores more goals for the NT which what most ppl will remember him for.
sotil better than lolo?

your just saying that cause your a grone;)

Guti™
13 Apr 2005, 09:04 PM
Shut up guys, you all know no one can top el goleador historico Waldir Saenz :D

Visca...
13 Apr 2005, 09:05 PM
the peru.com list is horribly outdated, solano is 3rd all time scorer


go to this one its got the update numbers
http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/peru-recintlp.html

top 3 strikers(aka center foward) i dont include cubillas as an out and out striker he did play in the midfield in 78

1-lolo fernandez
2-valeriano lopez
3-perico leon/hugo sotil(if you include sotil as a striker that is)

I thought so. Good to see Nobby up there as 3rd all-time. Bad at the same time since that shows we lack pure goalscoring strikers. :o

Visca...
13 Apr 2005, 09:11 PM
sotil better than lolo?

your just saying that cause your a grone;)

yeah, I've heard from the family that lolo used to break the goal's net. My dad says he was an amazing striker.

What about Valeriano? People said he had a chimpun in his head. :D He had an amazing header.

condor11
13 Apr 2005, 09:27 PM
yeah, I've heard from the family that lolo used to break the goal's net. My dad says he was an amazing striker.

What about Valeriano? People said he had a chimpun in his head. :D He had an amazing header.

they legend of valeriano goes

"Se señala en el anecdotario que, cuando jugó en Colombia, el mismo presidente del Real Madrid, Santiago Bernabeu viajó para lograr fichar al Tanque de Casma, quien, sin embargo, desechó la oferta debido a que no deseaba estar tan lejos de su familia. Se comenta que Bernabeu, para no haber hecho el viaje en vano, recaló en Argentina de donde se llevó contratado a Alfredo Di Stefano."
http://www.biografias.com/biografia_valeriano_lopez.htm

dont know if its true, but if it was, damm valeriano would have been kicking himself afterwards

alberto232ec
13 Apr 2005, 09:39 PM
Shut up guys, you all know no one can top el goleador historico Waldir Saenz :D
true true :D
El si es historico