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Mark Parahiba
23 Jul 2002, 02:33 PM
Starts August 10th.....who is the favorite?

As long as Corinthians don't win I don't care.

Da-lhe TRICOLOR!

eugene
24 Jul 2002, 12:45 PM
São Caetano, Atl. Paraná, Gremio and Cruzerio come to mind as possible favorites. I'm tempted to add Flamengo. But last year Mengão won the Copa de Campeõnes....then they were almost relegated from the Brasilerio (as if the CFB and Globo would have ever permitted that ;-) ).

1. Atl-P has managed to keep its team pretty much intact.
2. Cruzeiro lost Sorin, but are semi-finalists vs. Fla in tonight's CC semi-final. 3. Gremio is facing a player rebellion because managment is asking the players to take a 50% pay dedeuction (elimination from the Libertadores meant the club lost the money they were counting on to pay the guys).
4. SC is a relative oasis of stability, plus Adhemer is returning.

Well, there is always Paysandú! :-))))

eugene
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Mark Parahiba
24 Jul 2002, 05:03 PM
Adhemar is returning? What happened to him in Germany? Why didn't Sao Paulo sign him when they had a chance, he is better than that inutil França!

moacir
10 Aug 2002, 12:28 AM
Starts tomorrow!

São Paulo against BogeyMan Paysandú.

moacir
10 Aug 2002, 07:22 PM
Vasco 2 x 0 Figueirense
Goiás 3 x 1 Portuguesa
São Paulo 4 x 2 Paysandu
Paraná 2 x 1 São Caetano
Santos 2 x 1 Botafogo

moacir
12 Aug 2002, 07:07 PM
MENGAO Wins 1st!

Juventude 1 x 0 Ponte Preta
Bahia 1 x 0 Gama
Atlético-MG 1 x 2 Corinthians
Guarani 2 x 1 Atlético-PR
Internacional 1 x 3 Flamengo
Coritiba 1 x 0 Vitória
Palmeiras 1 x 1 Grêmio
Fluminense 5 x 1 Cruzeiro

Leading goal scorers:
2 GOLS
Liédson (Flamengo); Romário (Fluminense); Martinez (Guarani); Maurílio (Paraná); Jóbson (Paysandu); Luís Fabiano (São Paulo); Ramon (Vasco).

FiveXChampion
12 Aug 2002, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by moacir
MENGAO Wins 1st!

Juventude 1 x 0 Ponte Preta
Bahia 1 x 0 Gama
Atlético-MG 1 x 2 Corinthians
Guarani 2 x 1 Atlético-PR
Internacional 1 x 3 Flamengo
Coritiba 1 x 0 Vitória
Palmeiras 1 x 1 Grêmio
Fluminense 5 x 1 Cruzeiro

Leading goal scorers:
2 GOLS
Liédson (Flamengo); Romário (Fluminense); Martinez (Guarani); Maurílio (Paraná); Jóbson (Paysandu); Luís Fabiano (São Paulo); Ramon (Vasco).

Boy! I wish I could have seen that FluXCruzeiro!

Vampeta
12 Aug 2002, 08:26 PM
Looks like the Baixinho has started Flu on
the right track.

Good luck to him.

BrianCappellieri
14 Aug 2002, 04:33 AM
Botafogo ? - ? America
Figueirense ? - ? Guarani
Ponte Preta ? - ? Coritiba
Sao Caetano ? - ? Fluminense
Vitoria ? - ? Goias
Atletico Paranaense ? - ? Bahia
Corinthians ? - ? Internacional
Cruzeiro ? - ? Palmeiras
Gremio ? - ? Vasco

Americano e Orgulho
15 Aug 2002, 05:05 PM
Sao Caetano 2 - 0 Fluminense
Vitoria 4 - 1 Goias
Atletico Paranaense 2 - 1 Bahia
Gremio 3 - 2 Vasco

These are for the most part correct, I´d check on the other scores, but I need to get off the net.

BrianCappellieri
15 Aug 2002, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by moacir
Atlético-MG 1 x 2 Corinthians


Atlético has great supporters. After they scored it sounded like they were chanting, "Whoop! There it is!" :D

moacir
15 Aug 2002, 11:05 PM
Flamengo 0 x 0 Juventude
Gama 0 x 1 São Paulo
Portuguesa 1 x 0 Paraná
Botafogo 1 x 1 Atlético-MG
Corinthians 3 x 2 Internacional
Cruzeiro 1 x 1 Palmeiras
Grêmio 3 x 2 Vasco
Atlético-PR 4 x 0 Bahia
São Caetano 2 x 0 Fluminense
Ponte Preta 2 x 0 Coritiba
Vitória 4 x 1 Goiás
Figueirense 0 x 0 Guarani


1º São Paulo 6
Corinthians 6
3º Flamengo 4
Grêmio 4
Guarani 4
Juventude 4
Top 8 advance..
Bottom 4 to 2nd division
24º Paysandu 0
Gama 0
Internacional 0

Scorers:
4 GOLS
Ramon (Vasco).

Americano e Orgulho
18 Aug 2002, 09:01 AM
Baixinho marked 2 more gols for flu yesterdat. Looks like the old man still has a little something left to show.

moacir
18 Aug 2002, 09:56 PM
Portuguesa 0 x 0 Figueirense
Guarani 1 x 4 Atlético-MG
Juventude 2 x 1 Santos
São Caetano 3 x 0 Corinthians
Flamengo 1 x 1 Goiás
Cruzeiro 0 x 0 Botafogo
Paraná 2 x 3 São Paulo
Bahia 1 x 2 Coritiba
Gama 2 x 1 Vitória
Atlético-PR 2 x 1 Vasco
Fluminense 3 x 1 Grêmio
Internacional 1 x 0 Ponte Preta

1º São Paulo 9
2º Juventude 7
3º Fluminense 6
Atlético-PR 6
São Caetano 6
Coritiba 6
Corinthians 6
8º Flamengo 5
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22º Palmeiras 2
Botafogo 2
Figueirense 2
Cruzeiro 2
26º Paysandu 0

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Scorers:
4 GOLS
Romário (Fluminense); Ramon (Vasco).

moacir
21 Aug 2002, 10:02 PM
Coritiba 2 x 1 Flamengo
São Paulo 0 x 1 Juventude
Atlético-MG 1 x 1 Fluminense
Botafogo 2 x 2 Internacional
Paysandu 1 x 2 Portuguesa
Santos 3 x 0 Figueirense
Vitória 1 x 1 Atlético-PR
Goiás 1 x 1 Bahia

1º Juventude 10
2º São Paulo 9
Coritiba 9


4 GOALS
Kléber (Atlético-PR); Romário (Fluminense); Ramon (Vasco).

sidspaceman
22 Aug 2002, 01:42 PM
RIO DE JANEIRO, Aug 19 (Reuters) - Sao Paulo went top of the Brazilian championship after beating Parana 3-2 at the weekend despite having Kaka, their top player, repeatedly hacked down by the opposition.
The 19-year-old, who was a reserve in Brazil's squad at the World Cup, scored the first goal and set up the other two despite being the victim of some brutal tackling.

Sao Paulo coach Oswaldo Oliveira was livid after two clear red card offences against Kaka were punished with only yellows by referee Leonardo Gaciba.

'The referee allowed violence against our forwards, in particular Kaka, but this made our win all the more impressive,' he said.

'CRIMINAL' TACKLING

Kaka was himself booked for handball after he was fouled and his outstretched arm hit the ball as he fell. But he said he would not be intimidated.

'I got kicked again but they're not going to stop me and I'm not going to get riled by their provocations,' he said.

The referee's performance brought an avalanche of criticism, with veteran commentator Armando Nogueiro describing the Parana tackling as 'criminal'.

Critics say the Brazilian Football Confederation (CBF) have repeatedly failed to clamp down on violent play and the careers of the country's most talented players are being threatened.

Sao Paulo have nine points from their three games.

Veteran striker Romario scored twice for the second weekend running as Fluminense beat Gremio 3-1. The 36-year-old, who won the 1994 World Cup with Brazil, joined the club two weeks ago.

Former Brazil coach Emerson Leao had a miserable afternoon at his old club Juventude, where he was jeered by the crowd and saw his Santos team go down to a 2-1 defeat.

'It was a very poor game and we played badly, we can't have any complaints,' he said.

Cruzeiro were jeered off the field after being held to a goalless draw at home by Botafogo on the debut of controversial coach Vanderley Luxemburgo.

Luxemburgo, another former Brazil coach, was accused of unethical behaviour last week after he walked out Palmeiras to join his new club.

moacir
24 Aug 2002, 11:32 PM
Flamengo 1 x 2 Paysandu
Internacional 2 x 2 São Paulo
Figueirense 0 x 3 Botafogo

moacir
25 Aug 2002, 10:35 PM
Palmeiras 0 x 4 Atlético-MG
Fluminense 1 x 1 Santos
Coritiba 1 x 2 Corinthians
Cruzeiro 2 x 1 Bahia
Ponte Preta 1 x 1 Grêmio
Goiás 2 x 4 Vasco
Portuguesa 1 x 0 Gama
Vitória 2 x 1 Juventude
Top 8:
1º SÃO PAULO 10
2º JUVENTUDE 10
3º PORTUGUESA 10
4º CORINTHIANS 9
5º CORITIBA 9
6º ATLÉTICO-MG 8
7º FLUMINENSE 8
8º ATLÉTICO-PR 7

Bottom 4:
23º BAHIA 4
24º PARANÁ 3
25º PAYSANDU 3
26º FIGUEIRENSE 2

Goal scorers:
4 GOALS
Kléber (Atlético-PR); Ademílson (Botafogo); Romário (Fluminense); Fabiano Costa (Internacional); Jóbson (Paysandu); Ramon (Vasco).

omajac
28 Aug 2002, 06:35 PM
Bebeto has returned to Vasco da Gama!! I wanted to see him and Romario hook up, maybe the rivalry between him and Romario is still strong. Cause it seems as though he waited til Romi left to join!!

Duff
28 Aug 2002, 06:44 PM
i go to soccerage.com for Brazilian results....where do you guys go?