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Andy Bennett

04 Apr 2005, 07:55 AM

These people are never bloody happy, are they...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/4408537.stm

Looks like they only want him to say what THEY want him to say... and nothing else.

"Oh please, Mr. EUFA, can I kiss your arse please... pretty please... go on... please with knobs on then".

********ing wankers!

yasik19

04 Apr 2005, 10:57 AM

I freaking hope UEFA gets a 2-year ban, with all it's officials taking a 50% paycut.

soccer_mania

04 Apr 2005, 12:47 PM

I freaking hope UEFA gets a 2-year ban, with all it's officials taking a 50% paycut.
Haha :D nice one,but i'm afraid its only possible in dreamland. There's nothing we can do against UEFA.they say left,u go left.u go right,they say ban.

Teso Dos Bichos

04 Apr 2005, 09:42 PM

What is your exact problem with Uefa? I ask because threads and attitudes like these are very confusing to other fans.

Uefa have rules in place for everyone. Jose seems to think they don't apply to him. As I have said previously, I like the guy but he does himself no favours at all. I fail to see why Uefa deserves any criticism for this. It is time for common sense to prevail and Jose to get on with things, in the proper manner.

Forza Moskva

04 Apr 2005, 09:58 PM

Teso Dos Bichos

04 Apr 2005, 11:13 PM

Andy Bennett

05 Apr 2005, 07:48 AM

I am not breaking the TOS or trolling. So you can take your cry baby response elsewhere. It is a valid question and one that still awaits a sensible answer.

Would you like the chance to respond in a mature fashion this time?
Well allow me...

My problem with this is that EUFA, having acted in a way that has upset the guy, (regardless of whether THEY think he should be upset), should just take the opportunity to STFU for a while and let things cool down.

The reality is that the hostile atmosphere between Chelsea and Barcelona was created as much by the statements of guys like Etoo, ("I will retire of Chelsea win the CL"), and Ronaldinho, ("No British clubs will get through"), as they were by Mourinho and yet nothing has been said by EUFA about that at all... surprise, surprise.

As I've pointed in previous posts, Ferguson questioned there was a stitch up of the CL whereby the big Spanish and Italian clubs only ever got minor east european opponents instead of each other in the supposedly 'random' draws. Total bullsh!t I know but the point is that nothing ever happaned about it.

What's been perfectly obvious from day one in this is that EUFA didn't get a toss about the facts of the matter and just didn't like the fact that some uppity English club should be treading on the toes of one of the 'Big names' in world football.

For your information the guy that initially said that Rijkaard and Frisk had had a conversation, (well, apart from Rijjkaard himself that is... everyone seems to have forgotten that), was your fellow jock, Steve Clark. Now< I don't know the guy personally but I think I'm a good enough judge of character to know that he's unlikely to be a bald faced liar. He might be dour... he might be, frankly, a bit boring... but I doubt he's a liar.

As usual, (and entirely contrary to your initial post), there IS one law for the big 'established' clubs with 'history', (just remind me how many times Barcelona have won the CL somebody :)), and another law for everyone else including the 'nouveau riche' Chelsea.

The situation stinks to high heaven.

Have you grasped the fundamentals of our position now? or do you want me to draw you a ********ing diagram?

Unorthodox Yank

05 Apr 2005, 07:57 AM

Memo to Chelsea:

How To Be Considered a "Big Club"

Step 1: Stop acting as if you are a small club.

BridgeMonkee

05 Apr 2005, 08:03 AM

Memo to Unorthodox Yank:

Go suck your mothers c0ck

Teso Dos Bichos

05 Apr 2005, 08:31 AM

Well allow me...

<SNIP>

Have you grasped the fundamentals of our position now? or do you want me to draw you a ********ing diagram?

You will need to draw a diagram then, because that post had far too many errors and statements that have no basis in reality.

Andy Bennett

05 Apr 2005, 08:35 AM

You will need to draw a diagram then, because that post had far too many errors and statements that have no basis in reality.
Which, presumably. you're too much of a gentleman to detail.

Teso Dos Bichos

05 Apr 2005, 08:45 AM

Let me do a brief summary:

How have Uefa acted in a way that upset Jose? Why should they be the ones that need to "STFU" when all they are doing is following clear rules that have been set in place and apply to everyone?

The atmosphere created has nothing to do with this case. This is about Jose breaking rules, then lying, then breaking more. It has nothing to do with what any particular player said before the match or after.

Ferguson did make comments and Uefa took action against him.

The rest of your post has no basis in reality and is simply conspiracy theories, blah, blah, blah...

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Finally, all Uefa did was confirm that Jose must speak to the media, according to the rules in place. They were asked a question and they responded. Your reaction is therefore unacceptable. Uefa have done nothing wrong, Jose has, accept that fact. Move on.

Miles Brasher

05 Apr 2005, 08:55 AM

Steve Clark. Now< I don't know the guy personally but I think I'm a good enough judge of character to know that he's unlikely to be a bald faced liar. He might be dour... he might be, frankly, a bit boring... but I doubt he's a liar.

While I don't disagree with most of what you're saying, how on earth can you make this statement ? You've only seen him in front of TV cameras, he could be a completely different persona from that which he gives in front of a dozen microphones....

Although I do agree with the dour bit :p

yasik19

05 Apr 2005, 11:33 AM

Let me do a brief summary: Move on.

Ok, now please follow your own advise.

Andy Bennett

05 Apr 2005, 12:11 PM

Let me do a brief summary:

Please do.

How have Uefa acted in a way that upset Jose?

By calling him a liar BEFORE they'd carried out any investigation.

Why should they be the ones that need to "STFU" when all they are doing is following clear rules that have been set in place and apply to everyone?

Oh, it's a rule that they have to be biased in support of the 'big' clubs now is it. Oh, but of coures. I should have realised that current EUFA guidelines dictate that a manager "an enemy of football" by the head of EUFA's referee committee. Clearly, there is no way that THAT can be construed as causing unnecessary offence and heightening the existing feeling of having been unfairly treated.

It's the law... isn't it.

The atmosphere created has nothing to do with this case.

LOL. Oh no, of course the atmosphere is nothing to do with it. Presumably that's why Sepp Blatter, known throughout the footballing world as a joke, ('women footballer's should wear skimpier uniforms' LOL), has just stood up on his hind legs and said he was 'disgusted' by Mourinho.

This is about Jose breaking rules, then lying, then breaking more. It has nothing to do with what any particular player said before the match or after.

Eh heh!

Ferguson did make comments and Uefa took action against him.

And would you care to detail exactly what that action was? Was there the level of hysteria surrounded this matter? I think not.

The rest of your post has no basis in reality and is simply conspiracy theories, blah, blah, blah...

You're an idiot.

Finally, all Uefa did was confirm that Jose must speak to the media, according to the rules in place. They were asked a question and they responded. Your reaction is therefore unacceptable. Uefa have done nothing wrong, Jose has, accept that fact. Move on.
When they stop coming out with bullsh!t we'll move on mate.

Until them, ******** 'em.

Andy Bennett

05 Apr 2005, 12:26 PM

While I don't disagree with most of what you're saying, how on earth can you make this statement ? You've only seen him in front of TV cameras, he could be a completely different persona from that which he gives in front of a dozen microphones....

Although I do agree with the dour bit :p
Like I said, I don't know the guy personally at all. I'm just judging him based on what I've seen of him over many years as a player and an assistant coach.

Frankly, I wouldn't necessarily trust Mourinho because I haven't seen as much of him as I have Clark... although the chronology of these events lead me to believe that he DID complain about Rijjkaard talking to Frisk at the start of the second half because it's captured on the TV footage. The complaint, I mean.

Steve Clark was an honest player, by which I mean he always worked hard, never pulled out of a tackle, I can't ever remember him diving and he always tried to get the ball when he tackled someone. Now, OK... I accept that doesn't mean he's as honest as the day is long but, from my experience that usually indicates he's a pretty honest guy.

However, I've been watching him for a few years now on ChelseaTV, where he figures quite prominently and, to be brutally frank, from a public relations standpoint, the guy's a PR disaster looking for somewhere to happen. He is, frankly, TOO honest. Honest to the point of being surly and obstreperous. Candidly, he's a typical bloody jock.

Is he likely to be a liar? Well, I wouldn't like to bet my house on him NOT lying... I just don't think it's that likely. That's all.

reasoner

05 Apr 2005, 01:29 PM

Let me do a brief summary:

Ferguson did make comments and Uefa took action against him.

Please enlighten, regarding accusation of rigged draw what action did uefa take against that truly bad mouth af?

Eddie26

05 Apr 2005, 02:58 PM

Please enlighten, regarding accusation of rigged draw what action did uefa take against that truly bad mouth af?

As always from Man U fans...the silence is deafening.

Teso Dos Bichos

05 Apr 2005, 06:30 PM

Walter3000

06 Apr 2005, 02:14 AM

Goes to google (http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=ferguson+uefa+fine&btnG=Google+Search&meta=), 1 second later and the first link... http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_200305/ai_n12683922

:rolleyes:

I dont know, my favorite SAF quote is still about us having a blip....and then now conceeding the title. Great.