France punished with 3-0 loss

[Sagy]

France punished with 3-0 loss
Friday, 1 April 2005

The Israeli national team have been awarded a 3-0 victory against France after the French national team fielded a suspended player during Wednesday's 1-1 World Cup Qualifier match.

Vieira ban
French Patrick Vieira, the French captain, started the game for France and played the full match. The French player should have been serving a one-match ban for his second yellow card received during a match with Switzerland at the Stade de France on Saturday.

Appeal deadline
FIFA's Control and Disciplinary Body announced its decision this afternoon. No further action will be taken against French national team or Vieira. The French Football Federation have until midnight on Monday 4 April to lodge an appeal.

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France's would cup home are now in deep trouble.

[blackjack]

bonne essaie.


(nice try)

[tiburon]

how the hell did they field him without the ref noticing or better yet did france think they would get away with that???

[wiswis]

April Fool!

[GoodDead]

how the hell did they field him without the ref noticing or better yet did france think they would get away with that???

I can hear the reel on the fishing pole.

[WALDO]

France's would cup home are now in deep trouble.
Nice try! How did you come up with the score 3-0. :eek:

[Hrvat]

Nice try! How did you come up with the score 3-0. :eek:

Maybe because when you lose a match off pitch, you lose it 3-0 usually. :rolleyes:

[Sagy]

Nice try! How did you come up with the score 3-0. :eek:
Maybe because when you lose a match off pitch, you lose it 3-0 usually. :rolleyes:
Waldo,

Hrvat is correct, whenever you get a "technical loss" (e.g. using an ineligible player) the score is set at 3:0. This has occurred several times in UEFA club competition over the years. I just took one of their announcements from last year and changed the names and dates:).

[GoodDead]

Most recently durring the CL when fans of Roma hit Ref Anders Frisk with an object they stopped the game and handed them a 3-0 loss.

[tiburon]

:( lmao im such an idiot :eek:

[WALDO]

Waldo,

Hrvat is correct, whenever you get a "technical loss" (e.g. using an ineligible player) the score is set at 3:0. This has occurred several times in UEFA club competition over the years. I just took one of their announcements from last year and changed the names and dates:).
Ooops! :o I did not know that. I learned something knew. It seems like common sense would tell you that the score should be 1-0. Where did they come up with 3. Somebody been smokin some reefers! :D

[WALDO]

Maybe because when you lose a match off pitch, you lose it 3-0 usually. :rolleyes: OK! You got me my Croatian friend. :o

[Hrvat]

It seems like common sense would tell you that the score should be 1-0. Where did they come up with 3.

It's quite logical, when you think about it. Let's take Champions League qualifiers for example. If a certain team wins the first leg 2-0, it is theoretically possible they could make some kind of error on purpose (for instance to play with a player who has two yellow cards from previous matches). Should the penalty for that be only 1-0, that team would still go through. 3-0 is a good penalty, because teams usually don't have a reason to be afraid of the second leg if they win the first 4-0, or something like that.

[WALDO]

It's quite logical, when you think about it. Let's take Champions League qualifiers for example. If a certain team wins the first leg 2-0, it is theoretically possible they could make some kind of error on purpose (for instance to play with a player who has two yellow cards from previous matches). Should the penalty for that be only 1-0, that team would still go through. 3-0 is a good penalty, because teams usually don't have a reason to be afraid of the second leg if they win the first 4-0, or something like that.Thanks for the explanation. Now you made it make sense. Although I can't understand how they wouldn't stop a player with two yellow cards from playing. Don't they have a database system that lets the officials know who is ineligible to play. They could also eliminate the team that tries to cheat. That ought to keep teams from trying to cheat.

[Hrvat]

Although I can't understand how they wouldn't stop a player with two yellow cards from playing. Don't they have a database system that lets the officials know who is ineligible to play.

Well, all serious clubs are definetly very careful with keeping track who of their players are ineligible to play, but the problem can occur when a certain club buys a new player. I think that's what happened this year in Champion League qualifier to PAOK of Greece. Their player (who they bought this summer) had a yellow card from like 5 seasons ago (he could have might as well changed three clubs in the meantime, if those clubs hadn't played in international competitions) . They just didn't check his past record, he probably forgot all about that yellow card and they were punished with a 3-0 loss. Ofcourse, that meant they were practicaly eliminated, although they were probably a better team than Maccabi.

There is an interesting example when it comes to Croatian clubs. When Osijek played West Ham in the UEFA cup, it was discovered (after both matches had been played, West Ham was a convincing winner) that a West Ham player, Igor Štimac (also Croat, the irony) should have been ineligible for the first match, because he got a red card playing for another club ages ago (but his previous clubs had never in the meantime played in European cups).
West Ham admitted they made a mistake, but UEFA DIDN'T punish them. Throwing them out and letting Osijek go through would not have been very fair (looking from the purely football aspect, because West Ham was by far a better team), but this case indicates another problem, and that is that not all European teams have the same treatment in UEFA. But that is a topic for another discussion.

They could also eliminate the team that tries to cheat. That ought to keep teams from trying to cheat.

Yeah, they should eliminate the team that tries to cheat, but only if it is proven that it was done on purpose. As I said, this most oftenly happens because of uncarefulness.
I think UEFA should take care of keeping track instead of clubs and players and they should warn clubs when needed.