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USA_2014
26 Jun 2005, 01:12 PM
nascar ppl probrably said the same thing 5 - 10 yrs ago. remember the old days only time you'd see nascar was if there was a big-time accident. NOW, you can't run away from it. (Though I try hard :p ) the reason nascar is is on tv now, is because ppl want to put thier advertisements for nascar stuff. why? becuase the ratings are there. in a way having a bigger profits in advertising allows a bigger budget on tv production. AND in the case of mls, that would mean a bigger budget on PLAYERS.
If you really loved soccer & specially MLS soccer now would be the time to sponsor the leauge. Of course do we see McDonalds? No. Do we see Wal-mart? Why even Mastercard left us. Yet, they still advertise soccer stuff around the world. So if anyone here owns a company... well you know...
Good point, soccer needs sponsors, and I think they're slowly making real progress, especially since that landmark 10 year deal with Adidas.
aartef redded
26 Jun 2005, 01:28 PM
Good point, soccer needs sponsors, and I think they're slowly making real progress, especially since that landmark 10 year deal with Adidas.
Hooray Adidas! I love wearing them w/ pride!!
lfcli30
26 Jun 2005, 05:22 PM
Whole point?
Listen USA is in a conspiracy with FIFA and therefore they are ranked 10th best.
Its not by the progress in your football, its because FIFA want USA to like football and to get all your money. So simple is that.
You cant honestly say you are one of the 10 best teams in the world?
If you do, then you are truly an american idiot.
Well Mr. Scandanavia, we are in fact 10th in the world, and get used to it. Look who the U.S. has beaten in the top 10, Mexico and Portugal since 2002, as well as slaughtering the rest of CONCACAF. So how do you figure the U.S. isn't in 10th? It's not like they've lost to anyone terrible. True we had a poor showing against England, but we are certainley better than your national team which is ranked 12. Not only that, Italy couldn't even get out of the Euro qualifying stage, so they shouldn't be ahead of us either. I'm not going to get into further detail because fighting you is wasting my breath, but when you look at the facts, the US is very deserving of their top 10 spot.
CheveLoco
26 Jun 2005, 09:43 PM
Well Mr. Scandanavia, we are in fact 10th in the world, and get used to it. Look who the U.S. has beaten in the top 10, Mexico and Portugal since 2002, as well as slaughtering the rest of CONCACAF. So how do you figure the U.S. isn't in 10th? It's not like they've lost to anyone terrible. True we had a poor showing against England, but we are certainley better than your national team which is ranked 12. Not only that, Italy couldn't even get out of the Euro qualifying stage, so they shouldn't be ahead of us either. I'm not going to get into further detail because fighting you is wasting my breath, but when you look at the facts, the US is very deserving of their top 10 spot.
sorry but beating the crap out of the concacaf teams is not a good way to prove ur the 10th in the world...just like mexico aint 6 or whatever they are...now u think the US its better than Italy? all ur doing its making a fool out of yourself by easily showing everyone how u know nothing about football...beating 2 teams from the top 10 in 3 years doesn't make you better...remember, the US lost to England's B team...
MasterShake29
26 Jun 2005, 10:10 PM
sorry but beating the crap out of the concacaf teams is not a good way to prove ur the 10th in the world...just like mexico aint 6 or whatever they are...now u think the US its better than Italy? all ur doing its making a fool out of yourself by easily showing everyone how u know nothing about football...beating 2 teams from the top 10 in 3 years doesn't make you better...remember, the US lost to England's B team...
You're a fool.
The FIFA rankings aren't perfect, everyone knows this, they are what they are.
Mexico beat Brazil and drew Argentina (losing on PK's, but that's a draw), perhaps the two best teams right now. They also beat the U.S. at home in WCQ. That proves nothing? That's not too bad.
The U.S. lost to England, but neither team were at full strength. The U.S. was without their top striker for example.
This debate will all be settled in 12 months.
vilafria
27 Jun 2005, 01:33 AM
I was hoping that someone would be posting actual TV ratings over the last weeks, to get an overall picture where it stands.
I guess that was a bit optimistic on my part. I know its Summer. Who has time for that?
CheveLoco
27 Jun 2005, 04:07 AM
You're a fool.
The FIFA rankings aren't perfect, everyone knows this, they are what they are.
Mexico beat Brazil and drew Argentina (losing on PK's, but that's a draw), perhaps the two best teams right now. They also beat the U.S. at home in WCQ. That proves nothing? That's not too bad.
The U.S. lost to England, but neither team were at full strength. The U.S. was without their top striker for example.
This debate will all be settled in 12 months.
so because mexico beat brazil once now is at their level? and Mexico will beat everyone from the concacaf when playing at home everyone knows that...
MasterShake29
27 Jun 2005, 08:08 AM
so because mexico beat brazil once now is at their level? and Mexico will beat everyone from the concacaf when playing at home everyone knows that...
Maybe. If they beat them again at the World Cup then certainly.
Mexico beats everyone at home because they're good.
The point is, you can't prove Mexico isn't #6 in the world. Perhaps they don't deserve it in a subjective sense, but maybe they do. There is evidence to support it.
Roma_Wolves
27 Jun 2005, 05:11 PM
I was hoping that someone would be posting actual TV ratings over the last weeks, to get an overall picture where it stands.
I was hoping to see this too. Where does one get them anyways?
CheveLoco
27 Jun 2005, 05:32 PM
Maybe. If they beat them again at the World Cup then certainly.
Mexico beats everyone at home because they're good.
The point is, you can't prove Mexico isn't #6 in the world. Perhaps they don't deserve it in a subjective sense, but maybe they do. There is evidence to support it.
Soccer it's more than one result, it's concistency...in the end that's what makes a good team and what proves to the world how good you are...one result won't get u anywhere..
mexico beat brazil in the US = it was the U-23
mexico beats brazil twice in the Azteca = they were playing at home
mexico beats brazil in germany = nobody cares about the cup
and it's the way it'll be until Mexico starts doing something more important in the WC and not just once, cus Turkey,Greece,Japan's had ONE good tournament...and after that they are at the bottom again...
that's the difference between being great and having one good tournament...
USA_2014
28 Jun 2005, 12:25 PM
I was hoping that someone would be posting actual TV ratings over the last weeks, to get an overall picture where it stands.
I guess that was a bit optimistic on my part. I know its Summer. Who has time for that?
If this is helpful, this site has some tv ratings info:
http://www.kenn.com/soccer/
vilafria
28 Jun 2005, 11:58 PM
If this is helpful, this site has some tv ratings info:
http://www.kenn.com/soccer/
They don't have any figures for 2005 yet , but THANKS that helped.
By the way , it looks like the figures for MLS are encouraging ; going up slightly yearly. :)
USA_2014
03 Jul 2005, 08:34 PM
They don't have any figures for 2005 yet , but THANKS that helped.
By the way , it looks like the figures for MLS are encouraging ; going up slightly yearly. :)
Yeah, I think it looks very promising, I'm really excited. Did anybody notice ESPN2 trying out MLS games on Friday nights (about twice, I think), and "primetime" slots on Saturdays (well, 10pm, but close enough)...
USA_2014
03 Jul 2005, 10:39 PM
Whole point?
Listen USA is in a conspiracy with FIFA and therefore they are ranked 10th best.
Its not by the progress in your football, its because FIFA want USA to like football and to get all your money. So simple is that.
You cant honestly say you are one of the 10 best teams in the world?
If you do, then you are truly an american idiot.
This man makes an interesting point. This source "IFFHS" seems legit. They rank MLS (find "USA") as the 73rd best pro soccer league in the world:
http://www.iffhs.de/main/frame/?maintarget=englisch
And the highest ranked US club team (2004) is the K.C. Wizards, ranked 275th in the world:
http://www.iffhs.de/main/frame/?maintarget=englisch
Granted, Bruce Arena's unit gets special training (high-altitude training, etc.) that MLS club teams do not, like an olympic team I would say. But, there seems to be a big discrepancy between the level of MLS (no offense) and the FIFA ranking of the USA. Argentine basketball team example noted. I just wanted to share this info with everybody. MLS is improving every week and so is our national team. Go USA!
USA_2014
03 Jul 2005, 10:48 PM
Just wanted to say, and yet, we made it to the quarterfinals in the '02 world cup, and so, in that sense, we were in the top 8!
CheveLoco
04 Jul 2005, 03:28 AM
Just wanted to say, and yet, we made it to the quarterfinals in the '02 world cup, and so, in that sense, we were in the top 8!
and Greece won the Euro 2004 and they are not the best in Europe now are they?...u can't talk about one performance to measure a team's level of play, Turkey ended up third, does that make them the 3rd best? nope..the US ended up last in 98, does that make them the worst? nope...
vilafria
10 Jul 2005, 02:57 AM
Just wanted to say, and yet, we made it to the quarterfinals in the '02 world cup
:) That alone made up for a lot of help to increase TV soccer viewing in the USA I'm sure.
:)
AeroRusH
11 Jul 2005, 12:43 AM
I should make up ground to the NHL. :D
vilafria
11 Jul 2005, 01:00 AM
I should make up ground to the NHL. :D
:confused: I don't get it.
AeroRusH
11 Jul 2005, 01:16 AM
Typo.....sorry. (It)
The NHL has less fans today. ;)