La idea de Pekerman para ir a Bolivia...(CALL UP LIST)

[Aguante Bielsa]

No sé cuán divulgada esté esta información ya, ni cuántos de ustedes lo sepan, pero Pekerman planea llevar a la altura de Bolivia para el partido de las eliminatorias el 26 de marzo al mismo equipo "local" que enfrentará a México en el partido amistoso. Teóricamente, esto responde a una estrategia de llevar a los jugadores a la altura unos cuántos días antes del partido para que se logren adaptar mejor y tengan menos problemas a la hora de jugar el encuentro (algo que sería imposible con los rígidos calendarios de la FIFA para los jugadores que están en Europa). Por lo tanto, supongo que Pekerman dice algo como: "Mejor Fuentes, Insúa o Palacio con unos días de adaptación que Ayala, Riquelme o Saviola recién llegados".
Es una teoría interesante, creo que ya practicada por lo menos a medias por el ex-entrenador Passarella, pero ¿no es tal vez demasiado arriesgada teniendo en cuenta que este es un partido eliminatorio?

No sé qué opinan. Acá están los convocados definitivos, luego de muchas idas y venidas, y confusiones:

Rodrigo Palacio (Boca); Germán Lux, Javier Mascherano, Víctor Zapata y Eduardo Tuzzio (River); Oscar Ustari y Federico Insúa (Independiente); Lucas Castromán, Rolando Zárate y Fabricio Fuentes (Vélez Sarsfield); Lisandro López, Cristian Grabinski, Sebastián Romero y Diego Crosa (Racing Club); Daniel Díaz y Martín Romagnoli (Colón de Santa Fe), Maximiliano Velázquez y Mauricio Romero (Lanús) y Fernando Belluschi (Newell's Old Boys de Rosario).

[efernandez9]

Arquero: Leonardo Franco (Atlético de Madrid, España).

Defensores: Gonzalo Rodríguez (Villarreal, España). Juan Pablo Sorín (Villarreal, España). Gabriel Milito (Zaragoza, España). Fabricio Coloccini (Deportivo La Coruña, España). Roberto Ayala (Valencia, España). Nicolás Burdisso (Internazionale, Italia). Javier Zanetti (Internazionale, Italia). Leandro Cufré (Roma, Italia). Clemente Rodríguez (Spartak de Moscú, Rusia). Gabriel Heinze (Manchester United, Inglaterra) y Diego Placente (Bayer Leverkusen, Alemania).

Mediocampistas: Leonardo Ponzio :confused: (Zaragoza, España). Juan Román Riquelme (Villarreal, España). Aldo Duscher (Deportivo La Coruña, España). Lionel Scaloni (Deportivo La Coruña, España). Maximiliano Rodríguez (Espanyol, España). Pablo Aimar (Valencia, España). Esteban Cambiasso (Internazionale, Italia) y Lucas Bernardi (Mónaco, Francia).

Delanteros: Luciano Figueroa (Villarreal, España). Luciano Galletti (Zaragoza, España). Hernán Crespo (Milan, Italia). Javier Saviola (Mónaco, Francia) y César Delgado (Cruz Azul, México

no APARECE EL cabezon de alessandro! regresan ayala y el chelito vs Bolivia
Y pueden repetir vs Colombia

[Aguante Bielsa]

:confused:

Pero entonces me pregunto en dónde quedó tanta charla sobre el equipo alternativo con jugadores locales y qué sé yo qué sé cuánto...
Bueno, mejor así.

Por otro lado, qué lástima que siga insistiendo con tipos que nunca rinden, como Duscher, Scaloni, Ponzio o Burdisso.

[efernandez9]

el pelusa se los advirtio hace una semana, antes de ingresar a la clinica.

les dijo " los que llamaron para el amistoso, no seran de seleccion de mayores, que no los engañen"

[Monzon]

a mi ya me hincha las pelotas el tema Duscher, que se deje de joder con Aldito..Scaloni y ponzio tampoco me parecen ninguna maravilla. Ya bastante quilombo se puede hacer entre los que jugaron muy bien la Copa America-Olimpiadas + pibes que salgan como Palacio, como para meter estos picapiedras...

[Argentina Girl]

The names that come to mind as missing from Pekerman's list are Samuel, Veron and d'Alessandro.

[Aguante Bielsa]

No se olviden de Rosales, eh :)

[argentine soccer fan]

http://www.futbolargentino.com.ar/05/03/12-0006.html

Goalkeeper: Leonardo Franco (Atletico Madrid)

Defenders: Gonzalo Rodriguez (Villareal), Gabriel Milito (Zaragoza), Roberto Ayala (Valencia), Nicolas Burdizo (Inter), Leonardo Cufre (Roma), Gabriel Heinze (Manchester United), Leonardo Ponzio (Zaragoza), Javier Zanetti (Inter), Clemente Rodriguez (Spartak Moscow), Diego Placente (Bayern Leverkusen), Juan Pablo Sorin (Villareal), Fabricio Coloccini (Dep. La Coruna)

Midfielders: Juan Roman Riquelme (Villareal), Lionel Scaloni (Dep.La Coruna), Maximiliano Rodriguez (Espanyol), Pablo Aimar (Valencia), Esteban Cambiasso (Inter), LUcas Bernardi (Monaco), Aldo Duscher (Dep. La Coruna)

Forwards: Luciano Figueroa (Villareal), Hernan Crespo (Milan), Javier Saviola (Monaco), Cesar Delgado (Cruz Azul), Luciano Galetti (Zaragoza)

Still missing are the players who play in Argentina. It is expected that Lucho Gonzalez and Javier Mascherano will be among them, and either Pato Abbondancieri or German Lux to start on goal.

Placente, Saviola and Zanetti cannot play against Bolivia, but will likely start against Colombia.

Notable absents: Veron, Samuel, Tevez, D'alessandro.

[Xeneize12]

Scaloni and Duscher : :rolleyes:

These two guys did nothing to convince me that they deserve a spot. This was one game against Germany, but still....

Everyone else is good to go.. I really think Veron deserves a spot again...especially given the level of play he's showing at Inter. I don't get to watch as much soccer as I'd like (24/7) but when I've had the luxury of catchin an Inter game, Veron has always made an impact.

The absence of Tevez and Samuel isn't too surprising, since they haven't been in the best form. I LOVE both player's types of play. Samuel's defense, in years past, is just fantastic for man-to-man marking and he gives the Argentine backline some size, which it otherwise lacks. Even though he hasn't had the best year, I'd take Samuel not having a good year, over some of the others he's chosen. I hope he'll have a better year and get the spot back w/o question....

[Xeneize12]

Que lindo ver de vuelta al Chelito. Y si, que se deje de joder con Duscher y Scaloni. A Burdisso me lo banco....salvo la estupides del penal conra alemania.

[Moishe]

Tevez regardless of form has never let down the national team. He's a big game player who always comes through. Samuel too should be there. Veron I'm not to keen on anyway. To inconsistent. D'allesandro is no surprise. When you have Riquelme and Aimar in the attack, you really have to have great form to supplant those guys. Am I the only person watching the Bundesliga? Where is Demechellis? He's played well in Bayern all year. It's so great to have this many players to pick from!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Is it the summer of 2006 yet!!!!!!!!

[Xeneize12]

Am I the only person watching the Bundesliga? Where is Demechellis? He's played well in Bayern all year. It's so great to have this many players to pick from!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Is it the summer of 2006 yet!!!!!!!!

I'll have to catch a Bayern game.

Hey...summer of 2006....we don't need to wait that long for some good Int'l action. This June will be very very exciting. The Confederations Cup is in June and so is la revancha contra Brasil!

[Aguante Bielsa]

Pekerman has completed the list with the following players: Fernando Belluschi (Newell´s Old Boys); Rolando Zárate (Vélez Sársfield); Roberto Abbondanzieri and Rodrigo Palacio (Boca Juniors); Daniel Díaz (Cólon); Germán Lux, Javier Mascherano and Luis González (River Plate).

I'd like to see Pekerman put a B squad against Bolivia, so the main players will be in good physical conditions (taking the altitude issue into account) to play against a more difficult team like Colombia, even if it's at home. Something like...

Franco

Cufré, Gonzalo Rodríguez, Placente

Scaloni, Cambiasso, Clemente Rodríguez

Lucho González, Maxi Rodríguez

Galletti, Figueroa


... they shouldn't have too much trouble taking care of Bolivia. But meh.

[Monzon]

Cufre get injured, and really I hate three men defense, more when we have great LB/RB, is pretty unnecessary to risk in that way. Is a pretty counterattack team the one you armed, will be better leaving a def mid aside and some help to Lucho in creation, remember that you get tired more runnning after the ball, than having it, but I know you take in account la altura so in your team and being more pragmatic.

WHo are the playmakers Pekerman called Aguante?

[efernandez9]

Cufre get injured, and really I hate three men defense, more when we have great LB/RB

WHo are the playmakers Pekerman called Aguante? cufre will be replaced by el cata Diaz

for the full list see post #2 here

[Aguante Bielsa]

Dammit, you're right - Cufré got injured by dirty-ass Cafú! And now that I remember, both Placente and Zanetti are suspended for this match. Man, it seems like Pekerman will have some serious trouble with fullbacks for this next game. As efernandez said, Díaz will most likely replace Cufré... but still, the spot is lacking...

Playmakers? Riquelme, Aimar, Lucho González, Maxi Rodríguez, Belluschi, Bernardi. Hmmm... Pekerman prefers Belluschi and Bernardi over Verón? Sometimes it's a matter of taste, but that's just ridiculous. Have you seen him today against Fiorentina? Or the other day against Porto? I can't believe that he isn't even considered for the spot. D'Alessandro's case is at least a bit more understandable. He hasn't been playing really well, and he has been injured during the last month, I think... and he needs to show a little more maturity too.

[Argentina Girl]

Veron has been absolutely awesome these last matches for Inter. Can it be due to his relatively high age compared to the other midfielders that Pekerman doesn't call him up?

[Aguante Bielsa]

His age? Well, I don't think so. After all, Pekerman counts on other veteran players, such as Zanetti, Ayala and Crespo, who also share spots with younger players (Placente, Gonzalo and Figueroa, for instance).
I think there's something weird going on between Verón and Pekerman... but who knows... :confused:

Another thing that I personally don't agree with is calling so many defensive players. I mean, Ponzio? Duscher? We already have many alternatives, such as Milito, Burdisso and Gonzalo for the defense, or Mascherano, Cambiasso or even the versatile Coloccini for the defensive midfield. I believe the team would benefit more from creative or offensive players, such as Solari (he's doing great at R. Madrid, it's weird that Pekerman didn't call him), Tévez, Verón, Rosales, etc.

[afa10fef]

i dont understand why tevez continues to be left off the squad?? is he not performing well with corinthians, injured, or does a problem exist between himself and pekerman? since the copa america last sumer, tevez has become the one player which i think is capable of giving argentina that extra "edge".. why is it that hes not in la seleccion??? :confused:

[Moishe]

i dont understand why tevez continues to be left off the squad?? is he not performing well with corinthians, injured, or does a problem exist between himself and pekerman? since the copa america last sumer, tevez has become the one player which i think is capable of giving argentina that extra "edge".. why is it that hes not in la seleccion??? :confused:

The play in Brazil of Tevez has been inconsistent. Sure he's starting to score goals but his attitude is the better than thou type. He's still a young man and needs to learn that he's not yet the best player in the world. The biggest mistake was made when he chose Brazil over Europe. In his home continent he is the best player and treated as such. In Europe he'd be one of many talented players trying to make a name. In Brazil he feels it's his birth right. To prove this point, look at how many times Apache has been in the news lately because he can't or won't get along with his team-mates. Is this really the type of player you want? Sure he's great but he needs maturity on a regular basis and realize that he is not so good he's above the team.