View Full Version : Name your own NT`s biggest villian....EVER.
DerMongerer
05 Mar 2005, 02:51 PM
Which player that plays or formerly played for your NT, will you always loathe or despise for what he failed to bring to the table at some point when you needed him most. Or he made a BIG mistake that costed you and you`ve never been able to get out of your system.
As a Brazil supporter, I have to nominate Serginho Chulapa for his wretched finishing ability in that fateful match vs. Italy in 1982. I`ll never forgive this guy for the chances he blundered on that hot July day.
Kaushik
05 Mar 2005, 03:07 PM
How about Cerezo in WC 1982 vs. Italy? Or, Muller vs. Argentina in WC 1990?
ChivaCongelado
05 Mar 2005, 03:27 PM
For Mexico:
Luis Roberto Alves "Zaguinho" or Luis Miguel Salvador (also called Luis Miguel Fallador for the amount of chances he missed)... good Lord, it was horrible to watch them play and wonder when, if ever, would they score, and why would the coach still keep them there....
DerMongerer
05 Mar 2005, 03:35 PM
How about Cerezo in WC 1982 vs. Italy? Or, Muller vs. Argentina in WC 1990?
Yes Cerezo, but more often than not Brazil hasn`t been about great defenders, so to a degree his kind of play has to be expected. He did make a awful turnover in the 2nd Rossi goal.
I just recall Serginho being sent in clear one on one with Zoff, and unable to even get a shot off, unthinkable for a starting centre-forward of the Selecao. I think 1982 was the only WC I can remember where Brazil entered without a top tier centre forward.
Muller would`ve been easily displaced had Romario been fit in 1990. Against Argentina, I think Brazil was unlucky to hit the post a couple times.
billyireland
05 Mar 2005, 05:17 PM
...Awaiting bullshit, unfair 'Roy Keane WC2002' post. Complete crap, btw.
gumbacicc
05 Mar 2005, 05:41 PM
I have three for Italy. Had we not relied on Del Piero, Totti and Vieri so much in our last few big tourneys, I'm sure would have lifted at least one major cup.
tiburon
05 Mar 2005, 05:44 PM
well, i dont know about ever but juan pablo angel (aston villa) is the current villian as of now (no pun intended :cool: )
back in 94 it was probably higuita :mad:
King Rooney
05 Mar 2005, 06:30 PM
gareth southgate............... :(
John Boy
05 Mar 2005, 07:43 PM
gareth southgate............... :(
Excluding Tim Buzaglo (google, result five) noone has made me so miserable football wise as Southgate and his miss.
At least he was Villa.
The Potter
05 Mar 2005, 08:03 PM
Excluding Tim Buzaglo (google, result five) noone has made me so miserable football wise as Southgate and his miss.
At least he was Villa.
Bonetti :( :mad:
neovox
06 Mar 2005, 07:19 AM
How about Cerezo in WC 1982 vs. Italy?
Here in Brazil, Cerezo is the villain. But DerMongerer has a point. Sérginho Chulapa was terrible.
DerMongerer
06 Mar 2005, 08:10 AM
I have three for Italy. Had we not relied on Del Piero, Totti and Vieri so much in our last few big tourneys, I'm sure would have lifted at least one major cup.
Del Piero ok, no argument with him, but Vieri was a bit past his expiry date at EURO 04. Vieri prior to EURO 04 had always brought the goods to the table in tournaments. At least his moments came at the past 2 WC`s.
billyireland
06 Mar 2005, 09:13 AM
Del Piero ok, no argument with him, but Vieri was a bit past his expiry date at EURO 04. Vieri prior to EURO 04 had always brought the goods to the table in tournaments. At least his moments came at the past 2 WC`s.
He did have 'a moment' in the 2002 WC against S. Korea didn't he?
:D
DerMongerer
06 Mar 2005, 09:31 AM
He did have 'a moment' in the 2002 WC against S. Korea didn't he?
:D
Well I did mention Vieri's past "2" WC`s (98 & 02) as being rather productive.
billyireland
06 Mar 2005, 09:43 AM
Yeah, and it was his failure to produce that I was referring to.
Hint: SITTER, 2 yards out, over.
Clint Eastwood
06 Mar 2005, 09:51 AM
Can it be a coach? Right now for the US my biggest villain is Steve Sampson, coach of the US team at WC98. He absolutely destroyed the team.
It's pretty hard coming up with a player US fans think is a villain. Many people don't like the way Frankie Hejduk plays, but he's by no means a villain. David Regis? A Frenchman dressed in US clothing just so he could be on a WC roster is mine. We've had other foreign born players (Thomas Dooley, etc.), but there was something not right with Regis. He wasn't remotely American in my eyes. He's French, period.
DerMongerer
06 Mar 2005, 10:08 AM
Yeah, and it was his failure to produce that I was referring to.
Hint: SITTER, 2 yards out, over.
You win. :cool:
gumbacicc
06 Mar 2005, 10:13 AM
you're right about vieri in the other wc where he was productive.
however, i was making reference to euro 04 and wc 02.
neovox
06 Mar 2005, 01:28 PM
Zagallo in 1998.
QuaresmaRonaldo
06 Mar 2005, 01:36 PM
England - David Beckham's red card against the Argy's
Italy - Totti's suspension for spitting at Euro2004
Portugal - Joao Pinto's red card against South Korea - World Cup 02