Nats v. Chivas USA, 3/2 (R)

[BuffloSoldier]

Nats wax Chivas 7-0. (http://www.mlsnet.com/MLS/news/mls_news.jsp?ymd=20050302&content_id=23311&vkey=news_mls&fext=.jsp)

Two each for Noonan and Twellmann. Mathis, GAM, and Albright chip in.

For Chivas, injuries to Zuniga and Armando Begines.

[Delta Blues]

This *might* indicate how hated Chivas is by the rest of MLS. Sounds like our MLS boys laid it down hard! Excellent.

[Knave]

That's a shellacking! I recall other Nats vs MLS team scrimmages in the past, but I can't remember a anything that lopsided. I wonder if the Nats were simply that good, or if Chivas USA really was that bad.

[Soccer Doc]

That's a shellacking! I recall other Nats vs MLS team scrimmages in the past, but I can't remember a anything that lopsided. I wonder if the Nats were simply that good, or if Chivas USA really was that bad.

Or---the guys were looking to impress Da Bruce so they get to play later against adult compatition.

[Sandon Mibut]

Boy, you just say "Mexico" to our guys and they get all fired up!

Man, that was a real asskicking that I suspect says more about Chivas than it does the guys in this camp.

Anyone have any lineups?

[Knave]

Or---the guys were looking to impress Da Bruce so they get to play later against adult compatition.
That's a given in any Nats scrimmage against an MLS club (many of whose players are also looking just as hard to make an impression on Arena). But, as I said, I don't recall anything as lopsided as this was.

[jzsports]

hello all-
I'm a producer for Fox Soccer Channel and I will be shooting with the National team this weekend for a campaign that I'm working on. In short, I will be showing the players doing different tricks with the ball. I need to tell the National team's PR guy a list of players I want to use. I want to hear from you the fans on what players you would like to see in this promo. Who do you think are the most popular players, which players have the most skills with the ball, etc. Your comments will be lots of help. Thank you.

[Knave]

hello all-
I'm a producer for Fox Soccer Channel and I will be shooting with the National team this weekend for a campaign that I'm working on. In short, I will be showing the players doing different tricks with the ball. I need to tell the National team's PR guy a list of players I want to use. I want to hear from you the fans on what players you would like to see in this promo. Who do you think are the most popular players, which players have the most skills with the ball, etc. Your comments will be lots of help. Thank you.
You've posted this twice already - including once on its own thread. This post does not belong here on this thread.

Can we talk about the scrimmage please?

[emailryoung]

What an awful day for Chivas. Spanked in the game, the keeper off to get an MRI, and a defender likely out for weeks with a broken collarbone. Ouch.

It sounds like Noonan and Twellman showed well. They have such a tough hill to climb to get into the squad; I bet they were very fired up.

[Lemieux]

Mike Burns ;)

[dredgfan]

The Cobi Jones

[TheSlipperyOne]

hello all-
I'm a producer for Fox Soccer Channel and I will be shooting with the National team this weekend for a campaign that I'm working on. In short, I will be showing the players doing different tricks with the ball. I need to tell the National team's PR guy a list of players I want to use. I want to hear from you the fans on what players you would like to see in this promo. Who do you think are the most popular players, which players have the most skills with the ball, etc. Your comments will be lots of help. Thank you.

Cobi Jones.

[Caveat Lector]

Defender Jesus Ochoa said he saw Begines' collarbone protruding from his chest.

ewwwww

[BuffloSoldier]

Chivas sent out a release with its lineup, but not the U.S.

[quote]Martín Zúñiga (Brad Guzan, 32) - Orlando Pérez (Armando Begines, 46; Hendrickson, 77), Jesús Ochoa, Ezra Hendrickson (Esteban Arias, 74) -
Francisco Gómez, Francisco Mendoza, Ramón Ramírez (Aarón López, 46), Héctor Cuadros - Alonso Sandoval, Matt Taylor (Arturo Torres, 46), Isaac Romo (Thiago Martins, 46).

[Mason16]

Glad to hear about the beatdown, and the good performances by Twellman and Noonan. Could Noonan be the RW we're looking for? I think he pretty much faded out when played they for the Revs but perhaps this is a way for him to help the team. Competition for forward will be tough as it is.

[Mason16]

Chivas sent out a release with its lineup, but not the U.S.

[quote]Martín Zúñiga (Brad Guzan, 32) - Orlando Pérez (Armando Begines, 46; Hendrickson, 77), Jesús Ochoa, Ezra Hendrickson (Esteban Arias, 74) -
Francisco Gómez, Francisco Mendoza, Ramón Ramírez (Aarón López, 46), Héctor Cuadros - Alonso Sandoval, Matt Taylor (Arturo Torres, 46), Isaac Romo (Thiago Martins, 46).
That explains a lot.

[AndyMead]

Chivas sent out a release with its lineup, but not the U.S.

[quote]Martín Zúñiga (Brad Guzan, 32) - Orlando Pérez (Armando Begines, 46; Hendrickson, 77), Jesús Ochoa, Ezra Hendrickson (Esteban Arias, 74) -
Francisco Gómez, Francisco Mendoza, Ramón Ramírez (Aarón López, 46), Héctor Cuadros - Alonso Sandoval, Matt Taylor (Arturo Torres, 46), Isaac Romo (Thiago Martins, 46).

I think I've identified Chivas' problems. highlighted above

[AndyMead]

The goals:


0-1 (Minuto 10):
Clint Mathis runs on to a through ball, eludes a defender and scores with a
right-footed shot.

0-2 (Minuto 15):
Pat Noonan scores from close range off a Mathis corner kick.

0-3 (Minuto 25):
Noonan heads in a Brian Mullan cross sent in from the left wing.

0-4 (Minuto 44):
Eddie Johnson scores with a low shot to Brad Guzan's left post.

0-5 (Minuto 51):
Taylor Twellman closes in on goal from the left and fires past Guzan.

0-6 (Minuto 66):
Twellman dispossesses Aarón López and records his second goal.

0-7 (Minuto 81):
Chris Albright breaks free on the left and sends in a left-footed cross.

Expulsión/Ejection: Francisco Mendoza, Chivas USA, 62'.

[um_chili]

Yikes. It's always great to see the Nats cruise, even in a friendly, but this is embarrasing for the Goats. It makes me wonder: we've all been assuming (at least many have assumed) that ChivasUSA will be insanely popular with the Mexican population in the LA area. But will this be true even if they suck ass? I mean, are the kind of people who would never root for an MLS team but would support Chivas despite their MLS status going to be excited to watch a crappy team suffer constant beatdowns? I'm skeptical.

I realize this is all hypothetical, and there might be some crossover (i.e., people might support Chivas USA who weren't Chivas supporters in the first place), but the team is also going to be hampered by its ethnic preference. If you cut down on the amount of talent available to you for any reason--ethnic or otherwise--you're shooting yourself in the foot.

That got more OT than I intended. Anyway, go Nats. Also, nice to see Clint in the action, though it looks like he might have crapped out early.

[Mason16]

....If you cut down on the amount of talent available to you for any reason--ethnic or otherwise--you're shooting yourself in the foot...

It's far too early to tell if this is the case, but this is the reason why many MLS fans (myself included) were quite content with the Goats plan to "prefer" latinos & spanish speakers (in general). But again, far too early to tell.