Scouse and Kop?

[billyho96]

I have only followed English Football for about 4 years or so, so I don't know alot about many clubs other than Arsenal, and I guess you couldn't really say I know "a lot" about Arsenal, relatively speaking. At any rate, what are the origins of Scouse and Kop? I know the first is loosely a term for those associated with Liverpool and Kop is the name of one end of Anfield.

The words are so inextricably linked to LFC, it would be nice to know what exactly they mean and where they come from.

Thanks
Billy

[liverbird]

I have only followed English Football for about 4 years or so, so I don't know alot about many clubs other than Arsenal, and I guess you couldn't really say I know "a lot" about Arsenal, relatively speaking. At any rate, what are the origins of Scouse and Kop? I know the first is loosely a term for those associated with Liverpool and Kop is the name of one end of Anfield.

The words are so inextricably linked to LFC, it would be nice to know what exactly they mean and where they come from.

Thanks
Billy

My first reaction is to suggest you become introduced to Google.

However, I'll answer. Scouse is now a generic term for both Liverpool natives and their accent. It is actually an interesting stew prepared in Liverpool. USScouse can give you the recipe. The stew came first.

The Kop End is named for the Spion Kop, a hill in South Africa where a British regiment fought a gallant but futile battle in the Boer War. Many of the troops that died there where from Liverpool. In the wake of that battle, the end of the Anfield ground that was then a large hill was named the Spion Kop. The name has stuck through all these years.

[usscouse]

My first reaction is to suggest you become introduced to Google.

However, I'll answer. Scouse is now a generic term for both Liverpool natives and their accent. It is actually an interesting stew prepared in Liverpool. USScouse can give you the recipe. The stew came first.

The Kop End is named for the Spion Kop, a hill in South Africa where a British regiment fought a gallant but futile battle in the Boer War. Many of the troops that died there where from Liverpool. In the wake of that battle, the end of the Anfield ground that was then a large hill was named the Spion Kop. The name has stuck through all these years.LB's got it right, google can answer anything but he did the Kop story as good as they could.
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:RZRpXfdEtVkJ:www.liverpoolway.co.uk/wallpaperfolder/kop.jpeg


Scouse came from the scandahoovian meal 'Lobscouse' Something like Irish stew, it was so easy to make cooks on sailing ships used to make up huge pots of the stuff and serve it up daily. In the 18 and 1900's just about every family in Liverpool had someone going to sea it was a way of life. They had about 300 "Tall ships" on every tide, coming and going on the River Mersy to all parts of the world. Pretty soon Liverpool seamen were called scouse or scouser after this delectible treat. Then it was anyone who hailed from the 'pool. We even have our own language many of the guys who have been to Liverpool have the book. Lern yerself scouse"
Whoops! I just googled in Lern yerself scouse and could have saved me the typing.
Try this: http://www.mikekemble.com/mside/scouse1.html

[billyho96]

My first reaction is to suggest you become introduced to Google.


Well thanks, I guess. I'll never understand why people's "first reaction" is to be a smarta$$ to a legit, if simple question.


p.s. I'll have to check into this google thing you speak of ;)

[usscouse]

Well thanks, I guess. I'll never understand why people's "first reaction" is to be a smarta$$ to a legit, if simple question.


p.s. I'll have to check into this google thing you speak of ;)
Ungrateful, defensive, smartarse comes to mind here. I felt LB gave you a legitimate and simple answer that would help your research. As well as a good anecdotal reply.

Is the 96 the year of your birth? :D

[royalstilton]

Is the 96 the year of your birth? :D
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we can only hope!

alternatives:

the year he graduated from highschool ( yikes )!
his IQ score. hmmmmmm ( he did use "inextricably" correctly, though! )
his age.
a clever attempt to disguise the fact that he prefers oral/genital stimulation.

do you think this is worthy of a poll? ;)

[usscouse]

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we can only hope!

alternatives:

the year he graduated from highschool ( yikes )!
his IQ score. hmmmmmm ( he did use "inextricably" correctly, though! )
his age.
a clever attempt to disguise the fact that he prefers oral/genital stimulation.

do you think this is worthy of a poll? ;):D :D

Don't forget......What's a Highbury?


His age? Bloody hell that's closer to mine.. :cool:

[billyho96]

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he did use "inextricably" correctly, though!


yeah, got lucky . . . thanks guys, sorry if I came off as a twat ;)

[usscouse]

yeah, got lucky . . . thanks guys, sorry if I came off as a twat ;)Hey! I've been to Highbury many times. It certainly helps to be a twat to support them...... :D

Actually I've always had fun in the pubs near the ground there, good fans.
Don't forget to read the book and get hold of the Movie "Fever Pitch"

[billyho96]

Don't forget to read the book and get hold of the Movie "Fever Pitch"


"its up for grabs now . . . " ;)

[liverbird]

Well thanks, I guess. I'll never understand why people's "first reaction" is to be a smarta$$ to a legit, if simple question.


p.s. I'll have to check into this google thing you speak of ;)

I take no offense. I noticed you are an Arse supporter from Arkansas and I assumed the concept of a "search engine" might be foriegn to you :D :D

See the Anfield thread and go there some time. I've never been to Highbury and perhaps I won't get there
before they knock it down.