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LMvCP
21 Feb 2005, 07:55 PM
Historical

Best Central American Player: ?
Best Central American NT: ?
Best Central American League: ?
Best Central American Club: ?
Best Wages: ? (on average)
Best Infrastructure: ?

Current

Best Central American Player: ?
Best Central American NT: ?
Best Central American League: ?
Best Central American Club: ?
Best Wages: ? (on average)
Best Infrastructure: ?

Goathemala
21 Feb 2005, 11:00 PM
Historical

Best Central American Player: ?
Best Central American NT: ?
Best Central American League: ?
Best Central American Club: ?
Best Wages: ? (on average)
Best Infrastructure: ?

Current

Best Central American Player: ?
Best Central American NT: ?
Best Central American League: ?
Best Central American Club: ?
Best Wages: ? (on average)
Best Infrastructure: ?

Historical

Jorge "el magico" Gonzalez(El Salvador)
Costa Rica.
Guatemalan League.
This is a hard one as you have Los Rojos, Cremas both from Guatemala, Saprissa and La Liga from costa rica, Olimpia from Honduras.
Best wages have been in Guatemala.
Best Infrastrcucture has been Guatemalas.


Current
There are many good players in CA like Ruiz,Wanchope,Tyson Nunez,Carlos Pavon,and others but I dont want to make a list.

Best national I would have to say Costa Rica and then Guatemala.

The best league is ours of course(Guatemala) and costa rica.

Best club right now is Municipal since they won the Central American crown but I would say Saprissa and Comunicaciones, liga are up there too.

The best wages are in Guatemala.

I think Guatemala has the best infrastructure in CA and I think we can do better, then Costa Rica.

MoRado
22 Feb 2005, 11:39 AM
Historical

Best Central American Player: Alejandro Morera Soto
Best Central American NT: CR
Best Central American League: GUA
Best Central American Club: Saprissa, alajuela, comunicaciones, municipal
Best Wages: GUA
Best Infrastructure: GUA

Current

Best Central American Player: Wanchope
Best Central American NT: costa Rica
Best Central American League: Costa rica
Best Central American Club: saprissa
Best Wages: ? CR/GUA
Best Infrastructure: CR

MoRado
22 Feb 2005, 11:43 AM
hey goath..., do you how may titles Comunicaciones/Municipal have? local, champions cup and gigantes de CA?

LMvCP
22 Feb 2005, 11:55 AM
Historical

Best Central American Player: Alejandro Morera Soto
Best Central American NT: CR
Best Central American League: GUA
Best Central American Club: Saprissa, alajuela, comunicaciones, municipal
Best Wages: GUA
Best Infrastructure: GUA

Current

Best Central American Player: Wanchope
Best Central American NT: costa Rica
Best Central American League: Costa rica
Best Central American Club: saprissa
Best Wages: ? CR/GUA
Best Infrastructure: CR

How can you say that Costa Rica is historically better than the other NT considering that Honduras and El Salvador had qualified to 2 WC before Costa Rica had even seen a WC?

I know that El Salvador is in bad shape now.

MoRado
22 Feb 2005, 12:14 PM
How can you say that Costa Rica is historically better than the other NT considering that Honduras and El Salvador had qualified to 2 WC before Costa Rica had even seen a WC?
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reason 1-You should know that history is from the first soccer match ever in CA to lastnight games, so i see it like this, HON, ES, and CR have been in 2 WC's, and who has had a better performance? I think you can answer that to yourself
reason 2-Cause CR has a positive record against all the other nations (not sure about HON)
reason 3-world ranking
reason 4-Other international tournaments, like PANamerican games, Olympics, Copa America, youngworlscups, Gold Cups
reason 5-every centralamerican knows and admits that.

ranciddroog
22 Feb 2005, 12:23 PM
Historical

Best Central American Player: ?
Best Central American NT: ?
Best Central American League: ?
Best Central American Club: ?
Best Wages: ? (on average)
Best Infrastructure: ?

Current

Best Central American Player: ?
Best Central American NT: ?
Best Central American League: ?
Best Central American Club: ?
Best Wages: ? (on average)
Best Infrastructure: ?

historical
player: jorge magico gonzalez
NT: Honduras
CA league: Guatemala
CA Club: MUNICIPAL
best wages:Guatemala
best infra: Guatemala

current
player: CARLOS "EL PESCADITO" RUIZ
NT: GUATEMALA
CA league: Guatemala and CR
CA Club: MUNICIPAL
best wages:Guatemala
best infra: Guatemala

Rusty_Shackleford
22 Feb 2005, 12:25 PM
I've watched a few games from Guatemala recently. Really impressed me.

ranciddroog
22 Feb 2005, 12:35 PM
hey goath..., do you how may titles Comunicaciones/Municipal have? local, champions cup and gigantes de CA?

i aint goath but heres the stats (only MUNICIPAL)

21 ligas nacionales
9 torneos de copa
2 copa fraternidad (UNCAF)
2 copa UNCAF
1 copa de campeones concacaf

www.rojos.com

LMvCP
22 Feb 2005, 12:37 PM
Reason 1-You should know that history is from the first soccer match ever in CA to lastnight games, so i see it like this, HON, ES, and CR have been in 2 WC's, and who has had a better performance? I think you can answer that to yourself

But dont you have to take into account world cup participations as well. El Salvador and Honduras qualified out of CONCACAF when it didnt have 3 slots. Granted, El Salvador qualified for the 1st time in 1970 because Mexico was hosting the event. But even then, it was open for every one.

reason 2-Cause CR has a positive record against all the other nations (not sure about HON)

Thats always good and sure it can be used for bragging rights. IIRC, Norway has Brazil's number. The point is that if Costa Rica was the top dog in Central America from a historical standpoint, it took them literally 20 years and a poxy suspension (Mexico's cachirules) for them to see the WC.

I do think Costa Rica is the better team to date, but i question it historically because you have to give El Salvador and Honduras credit.

Reason 5-every centralamerican knows and admits that.

Most central americans that I know (Hondurans and Salvadorans) always state the fact they they qualified when the area didnt have 3 slots. (by saying that, they also admit that they arent as good as they were because they should be qualifying with 3.5 slots

ranciddroog
22 Feb 2005, 12:44 PM
reason 5-every centralamerican knows and admits that.



ur out of your mind firsrt off costa rica isnt the best, second if u go to HON they ll say their team is better, if u go to el salvador they ll say their team is better and so on and so on. In central america eveybody hates costa rica not cause their good but because u people think ur better than everyone. Honduras better then CR historicaly. ARRIBA GUATE, dale ROJO.

MoRado
22 Feb 2005, 01:05 PM
But dont you have to take into account world cup participations as well. El Salvador and Honduras qualified out of CONCACAF when it didnt have 3 slots. Granted, El Salvador qualified for the 1st time in 1970 because Mexico was hosting the event. But even then, it was open for every one.

the slot-issue....thats your point ah....



Thats always good and sure it can be used for bragging rights. IIRC, Norway has Brazil's number. The point is that if Costa Rica was the top dog in Central America from a historical standpoint, it took them literally 20 years and a poxy suspension (Mexico's cachirules) for them to see the WC.

How many games have Norway and Brazil played? 2, 3, 4 or 5? That doesn't count, if i talk about a positive record is because they have played a lot of games against each other. Maybe HON has a similar record with CR, i admit that i am not sure, but i know for sure about the rest of the countries.


I do think Costa Rica is the better team to date, but i question it historically because you have to give El Salvador and Honduras credit.

I agree


Most central americans that I know (Hondurans and Salvadorans) always state the fact they they qualified when the area didnt have 3 slots. (by saying that, they also admit that they arent as good as they were because they should be qualifying with 3.5 slots
You should increase the number of international friends...what about some ticos there?

The only country that can compare to CR in clubs history is Guatemala
The only country that can compare with CR in national teams history is Honduras

MoRado
22 Feb 2005, 01:06 PM
ur out of your mind firsrt off costa rica isnt the best, second if u go to HON they ll say their team is better, if u go to el salvador they ll say their team is better and so on and so on. In central america eveybody hates costa rica not cause their good but because u people think ur better than everyone. Honduras better then CR historicaly. ARRIBA GUATE, dale ROJO.
Thats fine racingdog, but i know that when you are alone you admit it.

LN - Dougg
22 Feb 2005, 02:47 PM
Historical

Best Central American Player: Jorge "el magico" Gonzalez (El Salvador)
Best Central American NT: El Salvador
Best Central American League: Costa Rica
Best Central American Club: Olympia
Best Wages: (on average) No f'n clue
Best Infrastructure: See above

Current

Best Central American Player: Carlos "Pescadito" Ruiz (Guatemala)
Best Central American NT: Costa Rica
Best Central American League: Guatemala
Best Central American Club: Municipal
Best Wages: Dunno
Best Infrastructure: Dunno

Wages and Infrastructure are not topics that interest me....

MoRado
22 Feb 2005, 02:57 PM
Can somebody post some information about Jorge "el magico" Gonzalez (El Salvador), i see him on everybodys list, and i have just heard of him a couple of times before.
who did he play for?

I nominated Alejandro Morera Soto, a costarican that won the scoring title with Barcelona (La Liga) along long time ago.

LN - Dougg
22 Feb 2005, 03:09 PM
Can somebody post some information about Jorge "el magico" Gonzalez (El Salvador), i see him on everybodys list, and i have just heard of him a couple of times before.
who did he play for?

I nominated Alejandro Morera Soto, a costarican that won the scoring title with Barcelona (La Liga) along long time ago.


Here are some links where you can read up stuff on him:

Link 1 (http://www.centrodeportivo.com/columnas_deportivas/amilcar/jorge_%93el_magico%94_gonzalez/)

Link 2 (http://www.geocities.com/roque2kk/a-mago.html)

Aside from playing for ES Clubs and the ES National tema, he played in the Spanish League for these clubs:

Cadiz F.C., Valladolid F.C., Barcelona F.C. (with Maradona)

MoRado
22 Feb 2005, 03:18 PM
ThanX that's good info!

ranciddroog
22 Feb 2005, 06:38 PM
Thats fine racingdog, but i know that when you are alone you admit it.

hey whats up bitter tico, i dont have to admit anything because it aint true HON BETTER HISTORICALY THAN CR, as we chant when ur NAT TEAM COMES DOWN WANCHOPE PIZADO TU PADRE ES EL PESCADO. later medrado

MoRado
22 Feb 2005, 07:29 PM
hey whats up bitter tico, i dont have to admit anything because it aint true HON BETTER HISTORICALY THAN CR, as we chant when ur NAT TEAM COMES DOWN WANCHOPE PIZADO TU PADRE ES EL PESCADO. later medrado

Thats a nice chant...that pescado is really good, thats why he plays in europe

LMvCP
22 Feb 2005, 11:11 PM
I dont recall Magico playing for Barza

Brasil (infantil), ANTEL (75-76), Independiente (76/77), FAS (77-82), Cádiz (82-84), Valladolid (84/85), Cádiz (86-91), FAS

http://www.fesfut.org.sv/magico_gonzales.html

The Salvadoran website has a section on him