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[swedcrip34]

So how many schools in Texas have soccer programs. I know of UT-Austin, Texas A&M, and now of SMU. What are the other schools in Texas?

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3904862&postcount=55

The link I posted above covers the topic. Southern Methodist is the only major university to have a team. UT-Austin does NOT have a men's team. Texas A&M does not. Texas Tech, Baylor, and Rice do not.

West Texas A&M is Division II (Davy Arnaud went there). It's a real shame, because I doubt the best students in Texas (no offense) want to go to SMU over Rice, Texas, and A&M. Why should they have to sacrifice their choice of school if they want to stay in Texas? So some leave the state (Garcia to Indiana I think) or go pro right away (Burciaga I think?). Soccer players tend to often be good students and some may have all their friends going to Austin, etc.

I'd really like to see a push in the Big 12 to add men's soccer. Same for the SEC.

In Division II (likely few scholarships if any) there is Dallas Baptist University, Midwestern State University, St. Edward's University, St. Mary's University (Texas), along with West Texas A&M (5 programs).

In Division III (non-scholarship) there is Austin College, Concordia University at Austin, University of Dallas, East Texas Baptist University, Hardin-Simmons University, University of the Incarnate Word, LeTourneau University, University of Mary Hardin-Baylor, McMurry University, Schreiner University, Southwestern University (Texas), University of Texas at Tyler, Texas Lutheran University, University of Texas at Dallas, and Trinity University (Texas) (15 programs I think).

There are a few PDL teams but that's just for a couple months in the summer.

There might be some junior college (community college) and NAIA programs.

So for all of Texas there are 9.9 scholarships at SMU and maybe a few in Division II. Not to mention the lack of big programs in nearby states.

[chapulincolorado]

Chapulin. Of the schools you mentioned only SMU has a team UT, TAMU are only club level teams. Only the chicks have teams. Title IX brother.

Slight hijack. How does that explain not funding a men's soccer program?

[Balonpie]

Slight hijack. How does that explain not funding a men's soccer program?
dunno, but that is the reason given to me by alumni in the know.

[CCTX SoccerFreak]

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3904862&postcount=55

The link I posted above covers the topic. Southern Methodist is the only major university to have a team. UT-Austin does NOT have a men's team. Texas A&M does not. Texas Tech, Baylor, and Rice do not.

West Texas A&M is Division II (Davy Arnaud went there). It's a real shame, because I doubt the best students in Texas (no offense) want to go to SMU over Rice, Texas, and A&M. Why should they have to sacrifice their choice of school if they want to stay in Texas? So some leave the state (Garcia to Indiana I think) or go pro right away (Burciaga I think?). Soccer players tend to often be good students and some may have all their friends going to Austin, etc.

I'd really like to see a push in the Big 12 to add men's soccer. Same for the SEC.

In Division II (likely few scholarships if any) there is Dallas Baptist University, Midwestern State University, St. Edward's University, St. Mary's University (Texas), along with West Texas A&M (5 programs).

In Division III (non-scholarship) there is Austin College, Concordia University at Austin, University of Dallas, East Texas Baptist University, Hardin-Simmons University, University of the Incarnate Word, LeTourneau University, University of Mary Hardin-Baylor, McMurry University, Schreiner University, Southwestern University (Texas), University of Texas at Tyler, Texas Lutheran University, University of Texas at Dallas, and Trinity University (Texas) (15 programs I think).

There are a few PDL teams but that's just for a couple months in the summer.

There might be some junior college (community college) and NAIA programs.

So for all of Texas there are 9.9 scholarships at SMU and maybe a few in Division II. Not to mention the lack of big programs in nearby states.


It's a shame...a real shame.

I really don't understand the reasoning other than the money allocated to football in Texas is astronomical and not enough of the pie for "other" sports. I live in Corpus Christi and we have a tennis team at Texas A&M-Corpus Christi but no soccer team (well it's a club team really); there's also baseball, softball, M and W basketball, GOLF, hello???!?!?!?! :eek:

No love for soccer in Texas man...but we still spit out a good crop of talent that every other college picks up time and time again. Go figure!

[chapulincolorado]

So let met get this right.....not counting junior colleges, community colleges, etc.:

There are only SMU and West Texas A&M that have a men's soccer team with scholarship program in the whole of Texas?! :eek:

In Division II (likely few scholarships if any) there is Dallas Baptist University, Midwestern State University, St. Edward's University, St. Mary's University (Texas), along with West Texas A&M (5 programs).

In Division III (non-scholarship) there is Austin College, Concordia University at Austin, University of Dallas, East Texas Baptist University, Hardin-Simmons University, University of the Incarnate Word, LeTourneau University, University of Mary Hardin-Baylor, McMurry University, Schreiner University, Southwestern University (Texas), University of Texas at Tyler, Texas Lutheran University, University of Texas at Dallas, and Trinity University (Texas) (15 programs I think).

And maybe about 20 universities with funded men's soccer teams?

[CCTX SoccerFreak]

So let met get this right.....not counting junior colleges, community colleges, etc.:

There are only SMU and West Texas A&M that have a men's soccer team with scholarship program in the whole of Texas?! :eek:



And maybe about 20 universities with funded men's soccer teams?


That's right man can you believe that?

We ought to get a petition started or something??!!?!? There are SOOOOOOOOO many kids that play soccer and can play college level soccer but can't afford to attend school in order to play. That is so negligent on the part of the Texas University programs. :mad:

[swedcrip34]

The link I posted 2 times is to a "Title IX" thread. I'm not sure if other DII Texas programs have scholarships or if W Texas A&M does, but not many of them are producing pro players. I can't imagine there being many scholarships other than SMU in Texas.

The problem start with Title IX. But the bigger problem is that the whole Big 12 doesn't have soccer, plus Rice and the other regional 1A schools don't either. So in that link, I explain how hard it'd be for JUST ONE school to start a program. Almost noone in D1 to play in driving distance. Especially anyone worth playing. So it'd really take 5-6 Texas schools (maybe some other Big 12 too) working together to get a bunch of programs going at once. Then Title IX becomes a problem, because either other men teams have to be eliminated/reduced or more women athletes have to be added. Soccer I think justifies enough student interest at these universities to have a team. Probably more than any sport except football, basketball, and baseball. Soccer might not break even, but I'd guess it'd come closer than most of the "olympic" sports at these schools. The SEC has 3 programs IIRC (Vanderbilt, South Carolina, and Kentucky) but they joined other conferences for soccer (South Carolina going independent)

What's the difference between Florida and South Carolina? They basically have the same sports. But South Carolina doesn't have men's cross country and instead has soccer. They also have Women's Equestrian instead of Women's Gymnastics.

http://www.geocities.com/DAVETGC/NCAA.htm
So Women's Gymnastics is a 12 scholarship sport. Men's Soccer is 9.9. Men's cross country is 12.6.

Why schools can have more scholarship for men's cross country than soccer is mind-boggling.

http://web1.ncaa.org/ssLists/sportByInst.do?sport=MBA&division=1
click on schools names and you can see what sports they offer.

The only difference between Texas and Florida is Women's Rowing and Gymnastics.

So apparently to get soccer, we need to start advocating for less men's cross country or more women's gymnastics programs.

Bottom line, cross country is probably cheaper than soccer. Women's gymnastics is expensive.

So a lot of work is needed to improve college soccer. I think it's worth the effort, but then again, most every other country has soccer players turning pro by 17/18 years old.

[tysa]

We have formed a premier League that will be affiliated to Super Y League in August 2008. For now we will be playing a provisional League Tournament that will include at least 5 teams. We are extending an invitation to your team to compete in our 2008 Provisional Super Y Soccer League Tournament to be held throughout South Texas, any city south of Laredo to San Antonio to Houston. We will start small but with your help we will grow.

This are confirmed teams to date:


U16 Division

Laredo Heat Red ''92 - Laredo Texas
Tigres Blue '92 - TYSA - Brownsville
Tigres Yellow '92 - TYSA - Brownsville
Academia Tigres - Pharr
Halcones - Roma
Santos USA - Rio Grande City

U12 Division

Laredo Heat Red '95 - Laredo, Tx
Tigres Blue '96 - Brownsville, Tx
Tigres Yellow '96 - Brownsville, Tx
Academia Tigres '96 - Pharr, Tx


The teams in both divisions will be competing for the 1st and 2nd places, which will advance to the State Championship to be held in Dallas in June 2008. From there the 1st place of each division will advance to the National Tournament that will be held in July 2008 in Greensboro, North Carolina. The fees will be $15.00 dollars per player. All registrations will be done online. The age groups are from U11 to U17 for both boys and girls. The geographical area covered by our league is any city from south of Laredo to San Antonio to Houston. At this time we only have these teams but, we hope to increase our membership in the future. From this league a Super Y team will be selected to participate in the 2009 Super Y Tournament. Our goal is to be authorized to have our own South Texas division of the Super Y League. Super Y directors have granted us a an opportunity to form this division, if we are successful between now and August, we might Have Super Y in South Texas by the end of the current Year.
This is our Philosophy
US Club Soccer is built on the belief that:
· Soccer clubs are the key to player development in the U.S., and while the State Associations play an important role, as the vast majority of their players are at the recreational level, rules that foster equal playing opportunities have been their priority.
· We have spent too much time governing competitive soccer rather than encouraging its growth. The business of the day to day development of top youth players rests with the competitive soccer club. A business-friendly environment must be created to develop programs and services which assist the competitive club and player, provide a minimum of rules and regulations to assure basic fairness, and allow clubs the flexibility to build programs that meet their needs. For example, in all US Club Soccer sanctioned competitions, players will be allowed to “play up” in age if their club so chooses, and travel permissions will not be required to attend events in other states.
· Clubs must work together to grow the club system. This includes speaking with a collective voice on important issues affecting them; assisting clubs organizationally and technically through our technical committee, staff, and club services programs; and coordinating player development with national teams and professional c

Mission Statement of Texas Soccer League and US Club Soccer

“To Create, Develop, and Grow the best USSF sanctioned organization to foster the growth and development of club soccer programs throughout the United States. The result of which will be to improve the level of play of the competitive soccer player, and thereby the U.S. national teams and professional leagues

[tysa]

Slight hijack. How does that explain not funding a men's soccer program?
We have formed a premier League that will be affiliated to Super Y League in August 2008. For now we will be playing a provisional League Tournament that will include at least 5 teams. We are extending an invitation to your team to compete in our 2008 Provisional Super Y Soccer League Tournament to be held throughout South Texas, any city south of Laredo to San Antonio to Houston. We will start small but with your help we will grow.



This are confirmed teams to date:





U16 Division



Laredo Heat Red ''92 - Laredo Texas

Tigres Blue '92 - TYSA - Brownsville

Tigres Yellow '92 - TYSA - Brownsville

Academia Tigres - Pharr

Halcones - Roma

Santos USA - Rio Grande City



U12 Division



Laredo Heat Red '95 - Laredo, Tx

Tigres Blue '96 - Brownsville, Tx

Tigres Yellow '96 - Brownsville, Tx

Academia Tigres '96 - Pharr, Tx





The teams in both divisions will be competing for the 1st and 2nd places, which will advance to the State Championship to be held in Dallas in June 2008. From there the 1st place of each division will advance to the National Tournament that will be held in July 2008 in Greensboro, North Carolina. The fees will be $15.00 dollars per player. All registrations will be done online. The age groups are from U11 to U17 for both boys and girls. The geographical area covered by our league is any city from south of Laredo to San Antonio to Houston. At this time we only have these teams but, we hope to increase our membership in the future. From this league a Super Y team will be selected to participate in the 2009 Super Y Tournament. Our goal is to be authorized to have our own South Texas division of the Super Y League. Super Y directors have granted us a an opportunity to form this division, if we are successful between now and August, we might Have Super Y in South Texas by the end of the current Year.

This is our Philosophy

US Club Soccer is built on the belief that:

· Soccer clubs are the key to player development in the U.S., and while the State Associations play an important role, as the vast majority of their players are at the recreational level, rules that foster equal playing opportunities have been their priority.

· We have spent too much time governing competitive soccer rather than encouraging its growth. The business of the day to day development of top youth players rests with the competitive soccer club. A business-friendly environment must be created to develop programs and services which assist the competitive club and player, provide a minimum of rules and regulations to assure basic fairness, and allow clubs the flexibility to build programs that meet their needs. For example, in all US Club Soccer sanctioned competitions, players will be allowed to “play up” in age if their club so chooses, and travel permissions will not be required to attend events in other states.

· Clubs must work together to grow the club system. This includes speaking with a collective voice on important issues affecting them; assisting clubs organizationally and technically through our technical committee, staff, and club services programs; and coordinating player development with national teams and professional c



Mission Statement of Texas Soccer League and US Club Soccer
“To Create, Develop, and Grow the best USSF sanctioned organization to foster the growth and development of club soccer programs throughout the United States. The result of which will be to improve the level of play of the competitive soccer player, and thereby the U.S. national teams and professional leagues

[tysa]

That's right man can you believe that?

We ought to get a petition started or something??!!?!? There are SOOOOOOOOO many kids that play soccer and can play college level soccer but can't afford to attend school in order to play. That is so negligent on the part of the Texas University programs. :mad:
We have formed a premier League that will be affiliated to Super Y League in August 2008. For now we will be playing a provisional League Tournament that will include at least 5 teams. We are extending an invitation to your team to compete in our 2008 Provisional Super Y Soccer League Tournament to be held throughout South Texas, any city south of Laredo to San Antonio to Houston. We will start small but with your help we will grow.



This are confirmed teams to date:





U16 Division



Laredo Heat Red ''92 - Laredo Texas

Tigres Blue '92 - TYSA - Brownsville

Tigres Yellow '92 - TYSA - Brownsville

Academia Tigres - Pharr

Halcones - Roma

Santos USA - Rio Grande City



U12 Division



Laredo Heat Red '95 - Laredo, Tx

Tigres Blue '96 - Brownsville, Tx

Tigres Yellow '96 - Brownsville, Tx

Academia Tigres '96 - Pharr, Tx





The teams in both divisions will be competing for the 1st and 2nd places, which will advance to the State Championship to be held in Dallas in June 2008. From there the 1st place of each division will advance to the National Tournament that will be held in July 2008 in Greensboro, North Carolina. The fees will be $15.00 dollars per player. All registrations will be done online. The age groups are from U11 to U17 for both boys and girls. The geographical area covered by our league is any city from south of Laredo to San Antonio to Houston. At this time we only have these teams but, we hope to increase our membership in the future. From this league a Super Y team will be selected to participate in the 2009 Super Y Tournament. Our goal is to be authorized to have our own South Texas division of the Super Y League. Super Y directors have granted us a an opportunity to form this division, if we are successful between now and August, we might Have Super Y in South Texas by the end of the current Year.

This is our Philosophy

US Club Soccer is built on the belief that:

· Soccer clubs are the key to player development in the U.S., and while the State Associations play an important role, as the vast majority of their players are at the recreational level, rules that foster equal playing opportunities have been their priority.

· We have spent too much time governing competitive soccer rather than encouraging its growth. The business of the day to day development of top youth players rests with the competitive soccer club. A business-friendly environment must be created to develop programs and services which assist the competitive club and player, provide a minimum of rules and regulations to assure basic fairness, and allow clubs the flexibility to build programs that meet their needs. For example, in all US Club Soccer sanctioned competitions, players will be allowed to “play up” in age if their club so chooses, and travel permissions will not be required to attend events in other states.

· Clubs must work together to grow the club system. This includes speaking with a collective voice on important issues affecting them; assisting clubs organizationally and technically through our technical committee, staff, and club services programs; and coordinating player development with national teams and professional c



Mission Statement of Texas Soccer League and US Club Soccer
“To Create, Develop, and Grow the best USSF sanctioned organization to foster the growth and development of club soccer programs throughout the United States. The result of which will be to improve the level of play of the competitive soccer player, and thereby the U.S. national teams and professional leagues

[tysa]

That's true but Tyler is easily 9hrs away from us in South Texas. I agree with ECC that it would be nice to see a kid from the South Texas wearing ANY kind of pro jersey! There IS a lot of talent in this area that people just don't come down to check out as a matter of fact we have to go out to show our kids. Texas is huge! When I say go out, I mean 8 to 9 hrs away from your hometown to be seen by the folks that need to see you or your kids to get a good look as a prospect. I'm not frustrated... :D
We have formed a premier League that will be affiliated to Super Y League in August 2008. For now we will be playing a provisional League Tournament that will include at least 5 teams. We are extending an invitation to your team to compete in our 2008 Provisional Super Y Soccer League Tournament to be held throughout South Texas, any city south of Laredo to San Antonio to Houston. We will start small but with your help we will grow.



This are confirmed teams to date:





U16 Division



Laredo Heat Red ''92 - Laredo Texas

Tigres Blue '92 - TYSA - Brownsville

Tigres Yellow '92 - TYSA - Brownsville

Academia Tigres - Pharr

Halcones - Roma

Santos USA - Rio Grande City



U12 Division



Laredo Heat Red '95 - Laredo, Tx

Tigres Blue '96 - Brownsville, Tx

Tigres Yellow '96 - Brownsville, Tx

Academia Tigres '96 - Pharr, Tx





The teams in both divisions will be competing for the 1st and 2nd places, which will advance to the State Championship to be held in Dallas in June 2008. From there the 1st place of each division will advance to the National Tournament that will be held in July 2008 in Greensboro, North Carolina. The fees will be $15.00 dollars per player. All registrations will be done online. The age groups are from U11 to U17 for both boys and girls. The geographical area covered by our league is any city from south of Laredo to San Antonio to Houston. At this time we only have these teams but, we hope to increase our membership in the future. From this league a Super Y team will be selected to participate in the 2009 Super Y Tournament. Our goal is to be authorized to have our own South Texas division of the Super Y League. Super Y directors have granted us a an opportunity to form this division, if we are successful between now and August, we might Have Super Y in South Texas by the end of the current Year.

This is our Philosophy

US Club Soccer is built on the belief that:

· Soccer clubs are the key to player development in the U.S., and while the State Associations play an important role, as the vast majority of their players are at the recreational level, rules that foster equal playing opportunities have been their priority.

· We have spent too much time governing competitive soccer rather than encouraging its growth. The business of the day to day development of top youth players rests with the competitive soccer club. A business-friendly environment must be created to develop programs and services which assist the competitive club and player, provide a minimum of rules and regulations to assure basic fairness, and allow clubs the flexibility to build programs that meet their needs. For example, in all US Club Soccer sanctioned competitions, players will be allowed to “play up” in age if their club so chooses, and travel permissions will not be required to attend events in other states.

· Clubs must work together to grow the club system. This includes speaking with a collective voice on important issues affecting them; assisting clubs organizationally and technically through our technical committee, staff, and club services programs; and coordinating player development with national teams and professional c



Mission Statement of Texas Soccer League and US Club Soccer
“To Create, Develop, and Grow the best USSF sanctioned organization to foster the growth and development of club soccer programs throughout the United States. The result of which will be to improve the level of play of the competitive soccer player, and thereby the U.S. national teams and professional leagues

[chapulincolorado]

We have formed a premier League that will be affiliated to Super Y League in August 2008. For now we will be playing a provisional League Tournament that will include at least 5 teams. We are extending an invitation to your team to compete in our 2008 Provisional Super Y Soccer League Tournament to be held throughout South Texas, any city south of Laredo to San Antonio to Houston. We will start small but with your help we will grow.








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Mission Statement of Texas Soccer League and US Club Soccer
“To Create, Develop, and Grow the best USSF sanctioned organization to foster the growth and development of club soccer programs throughout the United States. The result of which will be to improve the level of play of the competitive soccer player, and thereby the U.S. national teams and professional leagues

Do you have a web page? I live near Roma, RGC, Pharr, and Brownsville and up for driving and checking out the games.

[ChivasUSAMktDept]

http://web.mlsnet.com/t120/youth/

just redesigned, working on shoring up the other pages

[MARCH_]

Nice Website!