Call to non-PA Players to attend camp

[fidlerre]

Supposedly a call went out today to 50 non-PA MLS players this afternoon for the T&T camp.

Who from your MLS could be part of that list?

[fidlerre]

From the Crew.

Chad Marshall, Chris Wingert, David Testo, Ross Paule, Matt Jordan.

[jmeissen0]

what's the time frame for having been in for a camp and therefore being part of the union??

as i would think that paule and possibly jordan have been called into a camp before, making them part of the union

[scaryice]

what's the time frame for having been in for a camp and therefore being part of the union??

as i would think that paule and possibly jordan have been called into a camp before, making them part of the union

The past four years.

You could form a pretty decent team with those players, although to call 50 players, that's almost all the eligible guys in MLS under that scenario.

[lmorin]

As a matter of curiousity, if non-PA members play in the first game, do they automatically become members of the PA? If not, do they ever? The pool of available players could dwindle rather rapidly.

[scaryice]

Eligible from the Fire:

Buete
Capano
Clanton
Curtin
Gray
Griffin
Jaqua
Mapp
Pause
Pickens
Ring

I would imagine Curtin and Mapp for sure, possibly Capano, Gray, Jaqua, and Ring. Not sure if youth national team members are eligible, both presently and in the past four years.

[Carson Galaxy]

From the Crew.

Chad Marshall, Chris Wingert, David Testo, Ross Paule, Matt Jordan.

Did these players actually get a call or are you just speculating?

[swedcrip34]

Did these players actually get a call or are you just speculating?

He's obviously speculating, stating which players on his team would be eligible - "could be part" of the list, answering the question in the first post.

[willykirk]

As a matter of curiousity, if non-PA members play in the first game, do they automatically become members of the PA? If not, do they ever? The pool of available players could dwindle rather rapidly.

well if its anything like back in '96, those guys will be ostracized and not be allowed to join the PA i'm sure

[Ringo]

well if its anything like back in '96, those guys will be ostracized and not be allowed to join the PA i'm sure


see, that's what I was wondering about. Would some of these players (like Chad Marshall, for example) say 'no' to the callup just so they don't jeopordize their futures with the national team?
IIRC, Ramirio Corrales played in the 1996 game and just played in a game this year ... for what's that worth.

[Carson Galaxy]

well if its anything like back in '96, those guys will be ostracized and not be allowed to join the PA i'm sure

Any MLSer should think twice because they will get their fair share of dirty tackles over their whole career. It think Nats and MLSers alike will stand firm in their solidarity.

[Delta Blues]

So it's come to this. Pathetic and sickening.

[spot]

well if its anything like back in '96, those guys will be ostracized and not be allowed to join the PA i'm sure

Like Eddie Lewis?

It's amazing how much being good can make up for a few minor miscalculations.

[Noah Dahl]

Eligible from the Fire:

Buete
Capano
Clanton
Curtin
Gray
Griffin
Jaqua
Mapp
Pause
Pickens
Ring


I count ten and a keeper. There they are folks: U-S-A! U-S-A!

I bet they could pack it in for a goalless draw down there. Couldn't do worse than Richie Williams and co in Costa Rica.

[ThreeApples]

Like Eddie Lewis?

It's amazing how much being good can make up for a few minor miscalculations.I recall reading an article where Lewis said he asked permission from Eric Wynalda (his teammate at the time) before he accepted that call-up.

[Saeyddthe]

Eligible from the Fire:

Buete
Capano
Clanton
Curtin
Gray
Griffin
Jaqua
Mapp
Pause
Pickens
Ring

I would imagine Curtin and Mapp for sure, possibly Capano, Gray, Jaqua, and Ring. Not sure if youth national team members are eligible, both presently and in the past four years.
I could've sworn that Curtin got a callup once... Maybe for the Denmark game? I'm not sure...hard to really be enthusiastic right now...

[JG]

I recall reading an article where Lewis said he asked permission from Eric Wynalda (his teammate at the time) before he accepted that call-up.

Contra Costa Times, 11/5/98:

Lewis suddenly found himself in the middle of the conflict. Invited into camp, Lewis hesitated and sought the advice of San Jose Clash teammate Eric Wynalda, the U.S. all-time leading scorer.

"(Wynalda) told me, 'No, it's a weird situation and not a good idea.' So I declined," Lewis recalled. "I thought I might get blackballed from (MLS). I wasn't in a position to (insult) the older guys waiting for the (salary) bonus."

Lewis later reversed his decision when Wynalda informed him that things had changed and some veterans were going to play after all. But two hours after telling the U.S. Federation he was coming, Lewis learned contract negotiations had broken down and he again tried to retreat.

"Before too long, I'm on the phone with Steve Sampson and he says, 'I really want you to go. You're somebody I want to look at.' "

Lewis obliged, trained with the Yanks for a few days in Florida and headed for Peru. An eventual 4-1 loss to Peru marked the international debut for Lewis, along with six other players.

[lurking]

I would imagine Curtin and Mapp for sure, possibly Capano, Gray, Jaqua, and Ring. Not sure if youth national team members are eligible, both presently and in the past four years.
Curtin has been in a camp (never a roster though).

SJ

-sure-
Cochrane *
Waibel *
Russel
Dombrowski
Roner
Conway
Levesque
Aloisi (dont know if he should go under the lag)

-unsure-
Dayak *

-doubt-
Dunivant * (dont know if he should go under the lag) - think hes been to a camp, no roster
Robinson * - camp invite, no roster

* - denotes that they are the most "ready" for the opportunity.

[wjarrettc]

well if its anything like back in '96, those guys will be ostracized and not be allowed to join the PA i'm sure

So by this rationale, Eddie Lewis would not be a member of the Player's Association.

[Sandon Mibut]

I put this list together in December. It's all the [/b]uncapped MLS players who were on rosters last month.[/b] Teams were current as of that time so it's not updated for any trades.

The PA claims players who have been in camp count towards their association so some of these guys who aren't capped may not be eligible because they've been in camp. ANyone with a complete list of campees, feel free to chime in.

Also, some of the MLS players who've been capped haven't been capped in so long - Washingting, Dayak, Maisonneuve - that they may no longer be part of the PA, I'm just not sure.

Players with an ^ next to their name haven't played an MLS reg. season or playoff game. (I think. I'm doing that from memory because the team stats for 2004 are no longer at MLSnet.com for some reason.)

Anyway, here's the list.

Freddy Adu F DC 6/2/89
Nelson Akwari D RSA 2/4/82
Chris Aloisi D LA 2/21/81
Arturo Alvarez M SJ 6/28/85
Kevin Ara M RSL 8/2/82
Kenny Arena D MET 2/6/81
Davy Arnaud F KC 6/22/80

Devin Barclay M CLB 4/9/83
Kyle Beckerman M COL 4/23/82
Matt Behncke D RSL 2/20/80
Nat Borchers D COL 4/13/81
^Michael Bradley M MET 7/31/87
Paul Broome D LA 6/6/76
Chris Brown F RSL 3/10/77
Scott Buete M CHI 7/23/80
Jose Burciaga D KC 11/16/81
Jon Busch GK CLB 8/18/76

Craig Capano M CHI 7/7/85
Brian Carroll M DC 7/20/81
Jeff Cassar GK DAL 2/2/74
Jordan Cila M COL 4/11/82
Denny Clanton D CHI 4/4/82
Ricardo Clark M MET 2/10/83
Ryan Cochrane D SJ 8/8/83
Jimmy Conrad D KC 2/12/77
Jon Conway GK SJ 5/6/77
D.J. Countess GK RSL 1/9/82
Matt Crawford M COL 8/20/80
^Steve Cronin GK SJ 5/28/83
Jim Curtin D CHI 6/23/79

Brad Davis M DAL 11/8/81
Antonio de la Torre D CHV 11/18/77
Eric Denton D CLB 2/8/78
Justin Detter F KC 8/7/82
Joey DiGiamarino D MET 4/6/77
Tighe Dombrowski M SJ 3/3/82
Todd Dunivant D SJ 12/26/80

^Michael Erush M COL 1/24/83

^Byron Foss GK COL 10/6/79

Josh Gardner M LA 9/14/82
Scott Garlick GK DAL 5/29/72
Francisco Gomez M CHV 1/25/79
Guillermo Gonzalez M LA 1/4/86
Clarence Goodson D DAL 5/17/82
Alan Gordon F LA 10/16/81
Ned Grabavoy M LA 7/1/83
Taylor Graham D KC 6/3/80
Kelly Gray D CHI 4/7/81
Leonard Griffin D CHI 9/11/82
Josh Gros M DC 6/25/82

Wes Hart D SJ 9/14/77
Jay Heaps D NE 8/2/76
Stephen Herdsman D CLB 10/6/75
^Will Hesmer GK KC 11/23/81

Nate Jaqua F CHI 10/28/81
Jack Jewsbury M KC 4/13/81
Steve Jolley D DAL 10/15/75
Matt Jordan GK CLB 10/13/75

Brian Kamler M RSL 2/12/72
Ritchie Kotschau D COL 11/22/75

^Tim Lawson M DC 12/13/75
Chris Leitch D MET 4/1/79
Marshall Leonard D NE 12/29/80
Roger Levesque F SJ 1/22/81
Ricky Lewis D COL 5/29/82
Mark Lisi M MET 10/11/77

Mike Magee F MET 9/2/84
Justin Mapp M CHI 10/18/84
Chad Marshall D CLB 8/22/84
^Ty Maurin M DAL 8/16/82

Bryan Namoff D DC 5/28/79

Bo Oshoniyi GK KC 11/3/71

Jeff Parke D MET 3/23/82
Ross Paule M CLB 4/4/76
Logan Pause M CHI 8/22/81
Orland Perez D CHV 7/12/77
Troy Perkins GK DC 7/29/81
^Matt Pickens GK CHI 4/5/82
Rusty Pierce D RSL 7/24/79
Dan Popik GK LA 3/23/79
Brandon Prideaux D DC 8/18/76

Santino Quaranta F DC 10/14/84
Eric Quill M DAL 2/28/78

Tim Regan D MET 6/27/81
Matt Reis GK NE 3/28/75
Bobby Rhine F DAL 4/18/76
Henry Ring GK CHI 3/16/77
^Brian Roberts D NE 8/28/82
Eddie Robinson D SJ 6/19/78
Chris Roner D SJ 3/4/80
Ian Russell M SJ 8/30/75

Phil Salyer D DAL 10/30/81
Kyle Singer GK NE 8/6/80
Seth Stammler D MET 9/29/81
Jeff Stewart D RSL 6/21/80
David Stokes D DC 5/28/82
Gary Sullivan D COL 6/24/82
Jamal Sutton F CLB 3/22/82
Danny Szetela M CLB 6/7/87

Carey Talley D DAL 8/28/76
Matt Taylor F CHV 10/17/81
David Testo F CLB 8/7/81
Jason Thompson F DC 11/22/81
Scot Thompson D LA 2/11/81
^Bobby Thompson M NE 5/7/81
Arturo Torres M CHV 12/11/80
Seth Trembly M COL 3/21/82

Scott Vallow GK COL 6/8/77
Luke Vercollone M NE 4/4/82

^David Wagenfuhr D DAL 6/22/82
Craig Waibel D SJ 8/21/75
Jamil Walker F CHV 4/21/81
Zach Wells GK MET 2/26/81
Evan Whitfield D CHI 6/25/77
Chris Wingert M CLB 6/16/82

As I said when I posted this before, I don't see to many, if any, MLS players crossing, save for maybe Kenny Arena, who might be risking his allowance if he says no to his Old Man.