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stinky
13 Jan 2005, 03:31 PM
espn was wrong.
i just called USSF and spoke to jim moorhouse....totally picked up the phone...i was shocked...
anyway...here's the gist of what he said.
USSF said they'd agree to Mediation if the players agreed to a no-strike provision for this year. They refused. USSF will be calling in replacement players which will be announced today.
Players are getting 10 million, USSF offered 14 million, Players want 21 million.
Sounded like a nice guy. fwiw.
I'm sick to my stomach again. i'm behind the USSF on this. apparently, they went to the players twice.
Bambule GK
13 Jan 2005, 03:36 PM
espn was wrong.
i just called USSF and spoke to jim moorhouse....totally picked up the phone...i was shocked...
anyway...here's the gist of what he said.
USSF said they'd agree to Mediation if the players agreed to a no-strike provision for this year. They refused. USSF will be calling in replacement players which will be announced today.
Players are getting 10 million, USSF offered 14 million, Players want 21 million.
Sounded like a nice guy. fwiw.
I'm sick to my stomach again. i'm behind the USSF on this. apparently, they went to the players twice.
Aw, crap. That explains the vague story having been pulled down.
I hope you're wrong, stinky, but my stomach just sank on reading this post.
Ugh.
tab5g
13 Jan 2005, 03:39 PM
if there is going to be a camp in Carson at this point, i imaginie it would be replacement players that are called to there.
it will be very interesting to see who shows up.
my phone hasn't rung yet, and i haven't gotten an email, but i don't know the official invitation proceedure.
Bob Morocco
13 Jan 2005, 03:39 PM
Aw, crap. That explains the vague story having been pulled down.
I hope you're wrong, stinky, but my stomach just sank on reading this post.
Ugh.
The players would play against T&T, it's just that the fed won't let them play if they can strike any time.
Suck it Mexico still
stinky
13 Jan 2005, 03:40 PM
Aw, crap. That explains the vague story having been pulled down.
I hope you're wrong, stinky, but my stomach just sank on reading this post.
Ugh.
i hope i'm wrong too. but that's what was said.
it was weird...it was like i was talking to a friend of mine....very normal cool guy...imo....
he was something like "21 million, fine...tell us which youth programs you'd like us to cut out."
SABuffalo786
13 Jan 2005, 03:40 PM
Oh my God
Calexico77
13 Jan 2005, 03:41 PM
I smell a film script. Major Leagues meets Game of Their Lives.
UGH.
UGH UGH!!!!!!!!!
SONOFABEEEEETCH.
Bob Morocco
13 Jan 2005, 03:41 PM
i hope i'm wrong too. but that's what was said.
it was weird...it was like i was talking to a friend of mine....very normal cool guy...imo....
he was something like "21 million, fine...tell us which youth programs you'd like us to cut out."
Womens'?
[ducks head]
Knave
13 Jan 2005, 03:42 PM
he was something like "21 million, fine...tell us which youth programs you'd like us to cut out."
Did he seriously say that!
galperin
13 Jan 2005, 03:44 PM
I spoke to Jim as well. Said the players rejected USSF's offer twice in one week.
John_Harkes_6
13 Jan 2005, 03:45 PM
Total BS that the players won't agree to a no strike provision. The players are trying to hold this whole process up by keeping the threat of striking the day before a qualifier hovering over the heads of the USSF.
SABuffalo786
13 Jan 2005, 03:46 PM
What about the Februrary 1st deadline? Why aren't they working like madmen to try and get a resolution?
I really just don't know what to think or who to trust anymore. I'm done.
Bambule GK
13 Jan 2005, 03:47 PM
Did he seriously say that!
He has made that point in at least one of the stories floating around this week. I'm a little shocked it hasn't been discussed around here more. A bit specious, no?
stinky
13 Jan 2005, 03:47 PM
Did he seriously say that!
yeah...but he said it tongue in cheek. like, hello, if we give you what you're asking, we'd have to cut back on our youth programs.
John_Harkes_6
13 Jan 2005, 03:49 PM
F the players -
Won't agree to binding arbitration to end this thing
Won't agree not to strike
I am just sick about all this
Total BS that the players won't agree to a no strike provision. The players are trying to hold this whole process up by keeping the threat of striking the day before a qualifier hovering over the heads of the USSF.
Umm...what other leverage do they have?
If they give that up, they have no negotiating power. That's how negotiations work.
I'm tired of this "I'm behind the players" or "I'm behind the USSF" crap. Both sides almost always are partially right and partially wrong, and they both need to be willing to bend.
Whoever's spin you hear, that's the side that sounds more reasonable.
Bob Morocco
13 Jan 2005, 03:50 PM
Total BS that the players won't agree to a no strike provision. The players are trying to hold this whole process up by keeping the threat of striking the day before a qualifier hovering over the heads of the USSF.
Has any sports union ever agreed to a no-strike clause in the history of the universe?
chad
13 Jan 2005, 03:51 PM
The players are the ones not negotiating at this point.
monster
13 Jan 2005, 03:51 PM
I don't buy any of this. I don't buy that they have kissed and made up. I don't buy that the players are pulling some sort of stunt. I don't buy that the USSF has suddenly opened its wallet and mind.
Why would Moorhouse tell random people on the phone all this stuff, yet not give a comment either way to ESPN?
I don't believe a deal is done. I don't believe a deal is dead.
John_Harkes_6
13 Jan 2005, 03:52 PM
Umm...what other leverage do they have?
If they give that up, they have no negotiating power. That's how negotiations work.
I'm tired of this "I'm behind the players" or "I'm behind the USSF" crap. Both sides almost always are partially right and partially wrong, and they both need to be willing to bend.
Whoever's spin you hear, that's the side that sounds more reasonable.
Then agree to the god damn arbitration