eraro2001
10 Jan 2005, 04:26 PM
This is not even comments made by a brazilian, but it's truly the best I ever read:
The greatest football player ever, or does anyone have a different opinion??
Is there anyone, who says Pelé is not the greatest player ever? The real problem is to find an acceptable comment against Pelé beeing the greatest ever.
There are times when there appears someone pointing someone else than Pelé as the greatest football player ever. In Argentina you'll find the strongest candidate, Maradona. Cruyff and Pele's team-mate Garrincha also are commented here and there. Here are the four most common comments against Pelé:
1: Pelé lived in a time when you had more freedom to move in the arena, without getting hurt than for example Maradonna. That may be the most incorrect comment of them all, we are talking about a time when there is no discipline, almost no rules and no strong organisation protecting the players. There were no yellow or red card and players could do almost whatever they wanted on the arena, without getting punished. Pelé himself got experience from this when he was violently hurted both in the world cup 62 and 66. Some teams even had plans to hurt the star of the opposite team. Today injuries are much easier to cure, Pelé never got an operation in whole his life, until he was 58 years old. So it is really amazing he could stay in the absolute top of football for almost 20 years.
1 282 goals in 1 375 games. That is the total number of goals scored from Pelé during his victorious career.
2:Pelé won his three world cups in a team full of stars, that is easy. Maradonna won his world cups alone.
That is true, but remember that this could be a comment for pelé aswell, he was the king in a time of genius players (Cruyff, Di stefano, Garrincha, Beckenbauer, Puskas), who were the rivals of Maradonna?
3:Pelé never played in an european club, his football never were tested in Europe
Maradonna himself said that Pelé would be weaker in an european team, the fact is that Pelé may never have played in an european team, but he did play against european teams, in total he played 100 international matches with Santos, most of them against european teams. He won the world cup for clubs final 2 times (against Juventus 62 and Benfica 63). With Brazil he scored as many goals/matches as he did with Santos, it didn't matter what defense he played against, no one could stop him. Besides that, who said european clubs were better than Brazilian clubs when Pelé played football (all the great Brazilian players in that time played in Brazil)?
4:Maradonna was a better dribbler than Pelé was.
I would agree that Maradonna was a better dribbler than Pelé, but Pelé was more complete as a player and he was much more efficicient than Maradonna, Pelé would rather pass the ball than dribble if someone was better positioned than himself. Another fact is that there are few pictures of amazing Pelé numbers, we only have words about some fantasitic goals he scored with Santos, while we have all seen Maradonna's greatest moments and numbers. Pelé could also switch from running past the defense to dribbling the players, maradonna didn't possesed a speed even close to Pelé's. Another remarkable thing about Pelé is that he could play both as playmaker and striker in the same time. He was so complete that he even played as goalie for Santos 3 times and no one ever scored against him. Overall Maradonna probably was slightly more technical than Pelé, but not even close to as complete as "O rei".
two moments we'll remember
It sounds like a lie that 2 of the most remembered numbers from Pelé didn't result with a goal. Both occured in the same match, the classic 1970 world cup semi-final between Brazil and Uruguay, which did end 3-1 to Brazil. Uruguay took the lead early in the match and memories from the final 1950, when Uruguay beat Brazil were coming back to the Brazilians. Later Brazil would win the match, but what will be remembered from this match would be two numbers from "O rei" which didn't end with a goal.
One of them was a body dribble against the goalie, he just ran around the goalie leitting the ball go around the goalie in the other side, without even touching the ball, but then he missed the open goal!
What most people don't know is that Pelé had already scored a goal simular to this 8 years before this game!
Another classic Pelé moment was when he in this match watched that the goalie was positioned a good distance from the goal, so the genius Pelé shot the ball with only one touch directly after receiving the ball, from the middle of the arena, but he missed the goal with less than a meter
Want to see the original: http://hem.passagen.se/marpis/pelethebest.htm
There's more: http://hem.passagen.se/marpis/maradonnapele.html
The greatest football player ever, or does anyone have a different opinion??
Is there anyone, who says Pelé is not the greatest player ever? The real problem is to find an acceptable comment against Pelé beeing the greatest ever.
There are times when there appears someone pointing someone else than Pelé as the greatest football player ever. In Argentina you'll find the strongest candidate, Maradona. Cruyff and Pele's team-mate Garrincha also are commented here and there. Here are the four most common comments against Pelé:
1: Pelé lived in a time when you had more freedom to move in the arena, without getting hurt than for example Maradonna. That may be the most incorrect comment of them all, we are talking about a time when there is no discipline, almost no rules and no strong organisation protecting the players. There were no yellow or red card and players could do almost whatever they wanted on the arena, without getting punished. Pelé himself got experience from this when he was violently hurted both in the world cup 62 and 66. Some teams even had plans to hurt the star of the opposite team. Today injuries are much easier to cure, Pelé never got an operation in whole his life, until he was 58 years old. So it is really amazing he could stay in the absolute top of football for almost 20 years.
1 282 goals in 1 375 games. That is the total number of goals scored from Pelé during his victorious career.
2:Pelé won his three world cups in a team full of stars, that is easy. Maradonna won his world cups alone.
That is true, but remember that this could be a comment for pelé aswell, he was the king in a time of genius players (Cruyff, Di stefano, Garrincha, Beckenbauer, Puskas), who were the rivals of Maradonna?
3:Pelé never played in an european club, his football never were tested in Europe
Maradonna himself said that Pelé would be weaker in an european team, the fact is that Pelé may never have played in an european team, but he did play against european teams, in total he played 100 international matches with Santos, most of them against european teams. He won the world cup for clubs final 2 times (against Juventus 62 and Benfica 63). With Brazil he scored as many goals/matches as he did with Santos, it didn't matter what defense he played against, no one could stop him. Besides that, who said european clubs were better than Brazilian clubs when Pelé played football (all the great Brazilian players in that time played in Brazil)?
4:Maradonna was a better dribbler than Pelé was.
I would agree that Maradonna was a better dribbler than Pelé, but Pelé was more complete as a player and he was much more efficicient than Maradonna, Pelé would rather pass the ball than dribble if someone was better positioned than himself. Another fact is that there are few pictures of amazing Pelé numbers, we only have words about some fantasitic goals he scored with Santos, while we have all seen Maradonna's greatest moments and numbers. Pelé could also switch from running past the defense to dribbling the players, maradonna didn't possesed a speed even close to Pelé's. Another remarkable thing about Pelé is that he could play both as playmaker and striker in the same time. He was so complete that he even played as goalie for Santos 3 times and no one ever scored against him. Overall Maradonna probably was slightly more technical than Pelé, but not even close to as complete as "O rei".
two moments we'll remember
It sounds like a lie that 2 of the most remembered numbers from Pelé didn't result with a goal. Both occured in the same match, the classic 1970 world cup semi-final between Brazil and Uruguay, which did end 3-1 to Brazil. Uruguay took the lead early in the match and memories from the final 1950, when Uruguay beat Brazil were coming back to the Brazilians. Later Brazil would win the match, but what will be remembered from this match would be two numbers from "O rei" which didn't end with a goal.
One of them was a body dribble against the goalie, he just ran around the goalie leitting the ball go around the goalie in the other side, without even touching the ball, but then he missed the open goal!
What most people don't know is that Pelé had already scored a goal simular to this 8 years before this game!
Another classic Pelé moment was when he in this match watched that the goalie was positioned a good distance from the goal, so the genius Pelé shot the ball with only one touch directly after receiving the ball, from the middle of the arena, but he missed the goal with less than a meter
Want to see the original: http://hem.passagen.se/marpis/pelethebest.htm
There's more: http://hem.passagen.se/marpis/maradonnapele.html