England will be the Strongest European League

[Neo¹]

The Premiership will be Europe's strongest league in 2 years. In England there are already Class Teams like Arsenal, Chelsea and Man UTD. But now it looks like the Second tear teams are getting stronger. Teams like Liverpool and New Castle. The opposite can be said for teams in Italy and Spain. Over the Past couple years the 2nd Tear teams like Roma, Parma, Lazio, Deportivo, Sociodad, Deportivo and more recently Valencia have been getting worse. They have been loosing their best players, and they Struggle with Massive Debt. Anways, My point is that in about two years, England will be the Strongest League in the World ahead of Italy and Spain.

Your Thoughts?

[lond2345]

England is already the most exciting league in the world in my opinion, but not the strongest. To become the strongest they need to hire more good foreign coaches that are good tacticians (Mourinho for example) and get rid of all the bad ones (Souness among others)

[Colm]

England is already the most exciting league in the world in my opinion, but not the strongest. To become the strongest they need to hire more good foreign coaches that are good tacticians (Mourinho for example) and get rid of all the bad ones (Souness among others)or just good tacticians :p, its one of the strongest but if one of our teams wins the champions league this season then it'll give the country a great boost and we would have a case to say we have the strongest league in the world, I think Souness isn't a good tactician either, Bryan Robson is another one but we do have ones like Mourinho McClearon, Wenger, SAF, Benitez, Moyes and Jol etc....

[lond2345]

I think Souness isn't a good tactician either, Bryan Robson
I was also going to mention Robson. You can add Steve Bruce and Allardyce as well, both who are overrated and inconsistent (they can win once and not win for the next 6). Lost count on how much money Keegan has spent with no results, more than 50 million euros if not mistaken (he would have been fired long ago in the other big 2, Spain/Italy). Mcclaren seems to be the english manager with the most potential who actually seems to be a decent tactician.

[Acronym]

If Sam Allardyce had a foreign name he'd be raved about.

[Pazarius]

You can add Steve Bruce and Allardyce as well, both who are overrated and inconsistent (they can win once and not win for the next 6). Mcclaren seems to be the english manager with the most potential who actually seems to be a decent tactician.

Given Bolton's budget over the past few years it's a miracle they win any games at all. They would be in the new league 1 by now if it weren't for big Sam! Tactically, Allerdyce has been excellent - he's created a unique style of play to suit his players, and his team can take points of anyone, including Man U, Chelsea, Liverpool.

Bruce has had a bit more money to spend, but he's still needed to be a good manager to get Birmingham up and keep them up. He can organise a defence and has even got Emile Heskey looking like a good player!

Every team has a bad run at some point in the season, especially those without big squads and good cover for injuries. It's unfair to lay the blame for these bad runs purely on the manager, and even more unfair to suggest that they are proof of fundamental flaws in the manager.

McClaren has had better players and more money than either of those two for several years, yet still managed to finish below them in last seasons table. His team's good form this season I would attribute to more spending on Viduka and Hasselbaink (I know Jimmy was a free, but I bet Bolton or Birmingham couldn't afford the wages Middlesbrough are paying him), and the emergence of outstanding youth players like Downing and McMahon (which incidently McClaren has not been at Middlesbrough long enough to take credit for), and not to any tactical ability of McClaren.

[JN13]

The Premiership will be Europe's strongest league in 2 years. In England there are already Class Teams like Arsenal, Chelsea and Man UTD. But now it looks like the Second tear teams are getting stronger. Teams like Liverpool and New Castle. The opposite can be said for teams in Italy and Spain. Over the Past couple years the 2nd Tear teams like Roma, Parma, Lazio, Deportivo, Sociodad, Deportivo and more recently Valencia have been getting worse. They have been loosing their best players, and they Struggle with Massive Debt. Anways, My point is that in about two years, England will be the Strongest League in the World ahead of Italy and Spain.

Your Thoughts?

The EPL is already ahead of the leagues of Italy and Spain.
No need to wait two more years to see it happen.

[Mel B]

The Premiership will be Europe's strongest league in 2 years. In England there are already Class Teams like Arsenal, Chelsea and Man UTD. But now it looks like the Second tear teams are getting stronger. Teams like Liverpool and New Castle. The opposite can be said for teams in Italy and Spain. Over the Past couple years the 2nd Tear teams like Roma, Parma, Lazio, Deportivo, Sociodad, Deportivo and more recently Valencia have been getting worse. They have been loosing their best players, and they Struggle with Massive Debt. Anways, My point is that in about two years, England will be the Strongest League in the World ahead of Italy and Spain.

Your Thoughts?



Erm. Which league are you watching sunshine because you are obviously not watching the same one as me. You are a weapon. The more i read you posts the more im thinking what a fcuking joke. Honestly. Get a grip man.

[|--LdC--|]

EPL can already be considered the best league in Europe, its all about the money, look at Italy, the once very good teams like Parma, Roma and Lazio even Sampdoria, Napoli and Fiorentina are all facing bankrupcy or bankrupted (Fiorentina) Napoli is close i think, only the giants Juventus, Milan and Inter are safe because their "sugardadys".
In Spain the same happened with some teams or its happening right now see Deportivo.
This is in fact a god advice for a lot of premiership teams don´t spend what you don´t have (Leeds are a good example).

[Mel B]

If Sam Allardyce had a foreign name he'd be raved about.



:D :D :D :D Brilliant sunshine.

[lond2345]

EPL can already be considered the best league in Europe, its all about the money
Since when does money determine what the best league is? we are talking about quality of play here not finance.

Chelsea this season has proven that the EPL is far behind Spain and Italy in terms of quality from top to bottom. Englands top teams are as good as the other big 2 euro leagues, but you get away from the top of the table and the quality goes down a lot. Could Chelsea go undefeated in so many games and allow so few goals in Italy/Spain? could they score 4 goals in what 3 straight games? (or was it more than 3?) in Italy/Spain? The answer is no.

Midtable to bottom Spain has better teams who are not easy to beat even for the top teams. It could be better players but I don't know if midtable/bottom teams have bigger budgets than midtable/bottom EPL. It could be better tactics which I think is one we are sure about.

[Mel B]

Since when does money determine what the best league is? we are talking about quality of play here not finance.




Erm. Spanish football is slow. They are dirty racist bastards. Itallion Football see Spanish football. Honestly sunshine. Thats not my opinion. Tis FACTOMONDO.

[Scarecrow]

Good thing you said European League, and not World cause we all know MLS is the best.....;)

Ok even I couldn't say that with a straight face.
Top to Bottom I would have to say Spain is ahead of EPL and Serie A. Not by a whole lot, but it seems like EPL's lower teams just aren't that strong. Guess the real barometer of this question will be the Champions League results eh??

[Mel B]

Good thing you said European League, and not World cause we all know MLS is the best.....;)

Ok even I couldn't say that with a straight face.
Top to Bottom I would have to say Spain is ahead of EPL and Serie A. Not by a whole lot, but it seems like EPL's lower teams just aren't that strong. Guess the real barometer of this question will be the Champions League results eh??


Mate. Anybody can beat anybody in the Premier League. Honestly. Spain and Italy are sh!t. Simple as. The taxi will be with you in 2 minutes sunshine.

[JN13]

Good thing you said European League, and not World cause we all know MLS is the best.....;)

Ok even I couldn't say that with a straight face.
Top to Bottom I would have to say Spain is ahead of EPL and Serie A. Not by a whole lot, but it seems like EPL's lower teams just aren't that strong. Guess the real barometer of this question will be the Champions League results eh??

The ECL results are hardly a good test since we have had teams like AC Milan or Real Madrid dominate ECL for years whilst the English teams who do not win it may have actually been hampered by the competitve nature of their own domestic league and cups.
The English teams who play in the ECL have the FA Cup, and the CC as well as the EPL to contend with.
I don't think that anyone can argue that the 4 competitions that United, Chelsea, and Liverpool are still involved in will have a negative effect on their
chances against teams like ACM and Barca.

[Scarecrow]

Mate. Anybody can beat anybody in the Premier League. Honestly. Spain and Italy are sh!t. Simple as. The taxi will be with you in 2 minutes sunshine.


I found it interesting to say the least watching the FA Cup games where those lower level teams did quite well for themselves.

Thus backing up your statement..

[Scarecrow]

The ECL results are hardly a good test since we have had teams like AC Milan or Real Madrid dominate ECL for years whilst the English teams who do not win it may have actually been hampered by the competitve nature of their own domestic league and cups.
The English teams who play in the ECL have the FA Cup, and the CC as well as the EPL to contend with.
I don't think that anyone can argue that the 4 competitions that United, Chelsea, and Liverpool are still involved in will have a negative effect on their
chances against teams like ACM and Barca.


Well let me ask this then, do EPL teams play in more competitions then the other leagues?

[Mel B]

I found it interesting to say the least watching the FA Cup games where those lower level teams did quite well for themselves.

Thus backing up your statement..


Its called GiantKilling sunshine. The FA Cup is known for it.

[|--LdC--|]

Since when does money determine what the best league is? we are talking about quality of play here not finance.

Chelsea this season has proven that the EPL is far behind Spain and Italy in terms of quality from top to bottom. Englands top teams are as good as the other big 2 euro leagues, but you get away from the top of the table and the quality goes down a lot. Could Chelsea go undefeated in so many games and allow so few goals in Italy/Spain? could they score 4 goals in what 3 straight games? (or was it more than 3?) in Italy/Spain? The answer is no.

Midtable to bottom Spain has better teams who are not easy to beat even for the top teams. It could be better players but I don't know if midtable/bottom teams have bigger budgets than midtable/bottom EPL. It could be better tactics which I think is one we are sure about."Since when does money determine what the best league is? we are talking about quality of play here not finance."
--» Money buys players and coaches, so it brings quality, no one can deny that Italian football was a lot better before the money crisis than it is nowadays.
--» About the quality of the weaker teams in the big 3 leagues i agree with you and i also think it has something to do with the tactics.
But when i said EPL could be considered the strongest league, i am talking about everything arround football games, quality of play, stadiums, average attendances, players, money, exposure, even european competition results, besides that i think EPL nowadays is the only top league with 4 strongest sides, Chelsea, Arsenal, Manchester United, Liverpool(unlucky because of the injuries), you go to Spain and you have Barcelona, Real Madrid and Valencia, Deportivo right now is crap, even Valencia has been poor, in Italy we have Juventus, AC Milan and Inter(almost no chance to fight for the title but great at european level).

[sinner78]

You never get bored of talking drivel do you ?
I cant believe cretins like you are allowed to plague these boards.



Chelsea this season has proven that the EPL is far behind Spain and Italy in terms of quality from top to bottom. Englands top teams are as good as the other big 2 euro leagues, but you get away from the top of the table and the quality goes down a lot.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/tables?league=ITA.1&cc=5739

Why dont you point out which teams outside of the top sides in serie A are "quality" ? Juventus are 9 points clear of the mighty Udinese who are in third place and theyve only lost one game all year .Serie A is just a load of regional nobodies outside of the top sides .You havent got a shred of proof that these teams are "better" than the premiership counterparts .Only times lower ranked premiership teams clashed with lower italian teams was bologna vs fulham and Middlesboro vs Lazio .Premiership won both ties.

I think that the spanish league is the leading league in terms of overall quality but hmmmmmmmmmm Barcelona seem to be in a similar dominant position to chelsea and have been racking up loads of goals in the process .They were as much as 12 points clear until this weekend .


Could Chelsea go undefeated in so many games and allow so few goals in Italy/Spain? could they score 4 goals in what 3 straight games? (or was it more than 3?) in Italy/Spain? The answer is no.

What kind of crap clueless logic is that??
Barcelona have been totally dominant over the spanish league and have been bagging goals for fun .They were as much as 12 points clear at one stage and dished out a 3-0 hammering to the leagues next best team .But in your fantasy world I guess that makes the situation more "competitive" .Dont make me ********in laugh .We put 4 teams into the last stages of the champions league where as spain only managed 2 .Seems clear that la liga isnt as good with depor and valenica operating at a lower level than usual.


Juve have only lost once and havent conceded many goals .I suppose their one defeat and good defence means that they have a pretty similar record to chelsea .So overall your reasoning and logic is absolute sh1te .Chelsea's squad is a high level team and could operate in any league with a shrewd coach like mourinho .


Midtable to bottom Spain has better teams who are not easy to beat even for the top teams.

And who handed chelsea their defeat this season eh?? mid table manchester city .Hardly much different to barca having a slip up to villareal .
Man utd have been struggling against certain lower ranking teams and thats why they are lower than usual .Barcelona have only lost twice and juve only once .Looks like a similar situation in all 3 leagues .



It could be better players but I don't know if midtable/bottom teams have bigger budgets than midtable/bottom EPL. It could be better tactics which I think is one we are sure about.

The lower/mid table sides are just as far behind in all 3 leagues so what the ******** are you talking about you witless clown??
You know NOTHING .kindly ******** off.