New Adidas Ball With Input Sensors

[zhiyi.]

Hey. I heard today in the papers that FIFA is considering a new ball which has some sorta sensors in the ball itself to detect if the ball actually crossed the goal line (i know it was a goal at old trafford). It says this is alternative to video replays which is currently also being considered. The article states that this ball is manufactured by Adidas.

i tried searching for info on the net but couldnt find, maybe anyone who has info, articles or pictures bout this particular ball can post here, much appreciated.

[denver_mugwamp]

Hey. I heard today in the papers that FIFA is considering a new ball which has some sorta sensors in the ball itself to detect if the ball actually crossed the goal line (i know it was a goal at old trafford). It says this is alternative to video replays which is currently also being considered. The article states that this ball is manufactured by Adidas.

i tried searching for info on the net but couldnt find, maybe anyone who has info, articles or pictures bout this particular ball can post here, much appreciated.

My guess ks that this is a standard soccer ball with RFID (Radio Frequency Identification) tags in it. These can be manufactured smaller than a postal stamp. The actual sensors would be part of the goal posts. Would it work? Probably but now you get into a whole new world of sensor calibration and equipment reliability. Do we really want to go there?

[OSFP7]

Would it work? Probably but now you get into a whole new world of sensor calibration and equipment reliability. Do we really want to go there?


I want to go there. We need at least a replay. My team would still be in the champions league but a clear goal against Monnaco was not counted.

[designez1]

here is an article in the Guardian about it:
http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,1563,1384213,00.html

I think the ball will be a standard roteiro with some chips inside the bladder... Sounds great. Next step is to put chips in boots, so you can monitor off-sides etc.

[DarrenOHooligan]

I think the ball will be a standard roteiro with some chips inside the bladder... Sounds great. Next step is to put chips in boots, so you can monitor off-sides etc.


Controversy and human error will always be part of sports. Mistakes like these are what people will talk about and human error plays a big part of the game. Many times In american football plays are reversed due to the coaches challenge rule. And being on both sides of these in the past, it makes or breaks a game. The funny part, bad calls always make or break a game, regardless of technology! Bad calls by referees and umpires have ALWAYS BEEN PART OF THE GAME, GET OVER IT!!!! (Yes i think Tottenham was robbed!) These types of errors were made decades ago when we didn't have this type of technology, and will continue to be made, and I believe that it takes away from the game itself. You want technology, go play playstation or X-box, but keep it out of sports!!!! :mad:


...just my 2 cents...

[designez1]

Soccer is the only sport that puts up with errors, even when they can be avoided. Imagine in the Olympic 100m sprint that a referee decides who won it instead of a photofinish!!! I much rather lose with a honest technology-based decision than due to a human error.
Referee errors are NOT part of the game. You can't use history as an excuse or else we would still be using leather balls! The game is about 22 players on the pitch. The referee facilitates and monitors the game, but stays out of it. However, when he makes an error he influences and intrudes in the game. This is not in the spirit of soccer...

[Ben16]

ok they would still have referees and asistant referees and im sure some type of official to deal with the sensors and things. as much as i love man. u that was a goal no doubt about it. and it should have counted but it didnt so i think wut fifa is doing is right. but the video replay to officials is rubish when are you gonna stop play if the manager throws a little red flag onto the field like american football. there would be to many askings for the official to watch the replay.

[sokol]

Controversy and human error will always be part of sports. Mistakes like these are what people will talk about and human error plays a big part of the game. Many times In american football plays are reversed due to the coaches challenge rule. And being on both sides of these in the past, it makes or breaks a game. The funny part, bad calls always make or break a game, regardless of technology! Bad calls by referees and umpires have ALWAYS BEEN PART OF THE GAME, GET OVER IT!!!! (Yes i think Tottenham was robbed!) These types of errors were made decades ago when we didn't have this type of technology, and will continue to be made, and I believe that it takes away from the game itself. You want technology, go play playstation or X-box, but keep it out of sports!!!! :mad:


...just my 2 cents...

But why shouldn't they be doing things to improve that? What's wrong with trying to fix human error as much as possible. Basketball added a third ref which has made an enoumous impact on the quality of refereeing. If bad calls are supposed to be part of the game, then let's get rid of referee assistants alltogether and make it harder on the main ref. You wouldn't support that would you?

The fact is that no matter what, it's never going to be perfect. But that's not a good reason to not try to make it as perfect as possible. Human error will still exist and it will be part of the game as you said. But it's stupid to just say, "let's not try and get better." Whether or not this technology really makes it better waits to be seen, but it's worth a try. If they didn't try things out, soccer would still be played with a leather ball on mud with two sticks and a string for a goal, no cleats, and you could play it back to the keeper's hands. Is that the game you want to watch and play?

[DarrenOHooligan]

But why shouldn't they be doing things to improve that? What's wrong with trying to fix human error as much as possible. Basketball added a third ref which has made an enoumous impact on the quality of refereeing. If bad calls are supposed to be part of the game, then let's get rid of referee assistants alltogether and make it harder on the main ref. You wouldn't support that would you?

The fact is that no matter what, it's never going to be perfect. But that's not a good reason to not try to make it as perfect as possible. Human error will still exist and it will be part of the game as you said. But it's stupid to just say, "let's not try and get better." Whether or not this technology really makes it better waits to be seen, but it's worth a try. If they didn't try things out, soccer would still be played with a leather ball on mud with two sticks and a string for a goal, no cleats, and you could play it back to the keeper's hands. Is that the game you want to watch and play?

I agree, things need to change. I guess I should've said that earlier! :( All i wrote about was the technology staying out of sports. If in basketball they added an extra referee, and it helped, GREAT. Hockey has goal judges that ONLY judge whether the puck has COMPLETELY crossed the line. This way the ref is not the one solely responsible for a goal call. Soccer can add a goal judge, and decide whether it has crossed the line. If they call it, they can stop the game immediately rather than during the play and screw things up. They stop a game for injuries, why not to decide a goal?

No, I don't want to see one Ref, and no, I don't want to watch a leather ball with 2 sticks and some string, my main point is the technology. Like I said, things need to change but not with the addition of technology.

[redalert101]

no thats gay this isnt track so keep it traditional. that would be just as gay as predators on adidas cleats just my opinion

[zhiyi.]

My personal opinion on the current controversy is video replays MUST be introduced but not balls with sensors. I dont think that such an uproar in england now should not have even started, i mean no one is perfect, everyone makes mistakes. It's not as if Man Utd Vs Spurs match was a tittle decider or league finals. But videos replays should be introduced to stop those horrible tackles and slides that get away unpunished.

Maybe BigSoccer members should write a petition or something. Blatter, you better be reading !

[sokol]

I agree, things need to change. I guess I should've said that earlier! :( All i wrote about was the technology staying out of sports. If in basketball they added an extra referee, and it helped, GREAT. Hockey has goal judges that ONLY judge whether the puck has COMPLETELY crossed the line. This way the ref is not the one solely responsible for a goal call. Soccer can add a goal judge, and decide whether it has crossed the line. If they call it, they can stop the game immediately rather than during the play and screw things up. They stop a game for injuries, why not to decide a goal?

No, I don't want to see one Ref, and no, I don't want to watch a leather ball with 2 sticks and some string, my main point is the technology. Like I said, things need to change but not with the addition of technology.

Define "technology." I you mean something electronic, then get rid of the 4th official's digital watch ans digital substitution sign.

The question is, why put a man in to watch the goal when there is technology to do it? The man is more likely to make mistakes, can be bought out and be dishonest. Making a call about the goal line is not like other calls. There is no judgement involved. Either the ball is completely over the line or it isn't, with no argument. But a human still can't decifer this perfectly. But if it's proven that a machine can, what's wrong with that? You can't create a machine that could be the center ref because the rules are objective and relative. A referee is asked to interpret the rules and make judgements. But there is no judgement on over the line. I would think that if the technology can be applied to the goal line, it can probably be applied to the whole field. It would be a lot easier for assistant refs to watch for offsides if they didn't have to worry about whether the ball is out of bounds.

I guess what I'm saying is that human error is part of the game, but it's error in human judgement, not in visibility that should be part of the game. On a rule like out of bounds or over the line, there is no judgement necessary. The rule is clear and there's absolutely no middle ground. Having a human do it only means mistakes will be made. If those mistakes can be eliminated it makes the game much more fair and enjoyable.

[zhiyi.]

I think this new ball would be tested during the Liverpool Vs Burnley FA Cup match, watch out for it !

[brendihno]

ok what about this....A coach can challange a call like american football

[Ben16]

HOw many times do you think they would challenge the call? without putting a timeout system in ?