A question about ethics

[ferreirajl]

Hi
First of all, the situation Im presenting happened legally in the portuguese Superliga, and I want to know if such things happen in other Leagues. Not only that, but I'm asking you to give your opinion on how ethical the situation is.
So here goes.

(name of teams/players doesn't matter, just think at any teams you want )

Team X's best striker, a brasilian player who scored 1/3rd of X's goals so far receives his 5th yellow card of the season and is therefor out of next match.

X's next scheduled match is against rival and also title contender Team Y.

Team X and Team Y go into this derby with the same number of points.

Team X decides to reschedule a cup match against a III rd division team so that they can clear their striker's punishment and therefor play him in the important derby against Team Y.

They pay 5000 Euros to the III rd division team so that they agree to this.

The FA doesn't oppose the move. It does apply a small fine to Team X but simply because the request for the match rescheduling should have been made 20 days before it is played, which it wasn't.

The match is rescheduled.

What do you think?

[texgator]

I think cup games shouldn't count against league suspensions.

[TRICOLOR BRASIL]

It looks like a tipically brazilian move

Maybe the "X" striker gave them this idea. (is it Liedson?)

[Cassano]

Yeah, Cup games shouldn't count towards suspension. In Italy, If you are suspended, you're only suspended for League games and you can play in the Cup. The Portuguese federation has some fixing to do.

[herewego]

Let´s spread this question a little wider.

In my opinion you could call this question of ethics in a different way too.

Why should team Y benefit from a team X foul against team Z?

I mean, your team gets a hard foul in 60th minute, your player must leave the pitch injured, your opponents player gets a yellow card and nothing else happens. But, if it´s the 5th yellow card, the next opponent team gets a favour from that, because one player is not allowed to play. Maybe this team is just fighting with your team against relegation. Is that "ethic"?

Or let´s say Ballack tackles an Korean in WC semi final. Korea benefits with just a freekick. But Brazil benefits tremendous in the WC final because the opponents team has to leave out their best player. Correct?

[Ombak]

Let´s spread this question a little wider.

In my opinion you could call this question of ethics in a different way too.

Why should team Y benefit from a team X foul against team Z?

I mean, your team gets a hard foul in 60th minute, your player must leave the pitch injured, your opponents player gets a yellow card and nothing else happens. But, if it´s the 5th yellow card, the next opponent team gets a favour from that, because one player is not allowed to play. Maybe this team is just fighting with your team against relegation. Is that "ethic"?

Or let´s say Ballack tackles an Korean in WC semi final. Korea benefits with just a freekick. But Brazil benefits tremendous in the WC final because the opponents team has to leave out their best player. Correct?

Why look at it as a favor to the next team instead of punishment for the one that broke the rules of a tournament that lasts longer than a game?

[herewego]

Yepp, that´s the other point of view in the ballack case. But think on the other example, your team plays against a top team in league, loses sharp after a big battle, two or three of the best players of the top team getting 5th yellows or red cards in the last minutes.

And then, in the next week, your direct opponent against relegation plays the same top team, but without 3 of their best they lose.

[neovox]

I think cup games shouldn't count against league suspensions.

That's how it works in Brazil.

P.S.

Does it take 5 yellow cards to get a player out in Portugal?

[|--LdC--|]

That's how it works in Brazil.

P.S.

Does it take 5 yellow cards to get a player out in Portugal?
Yes.